I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK K-RoK
monitors. I like them but the mid-bass hump is killing me for some reason,
They sound great as home stereo monitors however
I find a lot of info on the Mackies, but very little on the Event PSM8
model and virtually no comparisons between them.
I have worked with the Mackies and I like them, but how do the Events
stack up?
FWIW I never liked the 20/20BAS models.
Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
They don't have to be active as I am driving my K-RoKs with a Bryston 4B.
Pointers to reviews would be welcome!
TIA!!!!!
--
Glenn O'Toole
"Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire
and
master of the bagpipes"
"Glen O'Toole" <keys88@musician.org> wrote in message
news:38poieF5mlsodU1@individual.net...
> I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK K-RoK
> monitors. I like them but the mid-bass hump is killing me for some reason,
> They sound great as home stereo monitors however >
> I find a lot of info on the Mackies, but very little on the Event PSM8
> model and virtually no comparisons between them.
>
> I have worked with the Mackies and I like them, but how do the Events
> stack up?
>
> FWIW I never liked the 20/20BAS models.
>
> Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
> They don't have to be active as I am driving my K-RoKs with a Bryston 4B.
>
> Pointers to reviews would be welcome!
>
> TIA!!!!!
I went with Precision 8's and have been VERY happy with them. I like them
better than the HR824 but everyone will have their own opinion.
Go listen to em' and make up your own mind. Listen with something you are
familiar with and have heard on a broad range of monitors.
In article <38poieF5mlsodU1@individual.net> keys88@musician.org writes:
> I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK K-RoK
> monitors.
Have you done any research by sitting in front of monitors you're
considering, or has your research been limited to sitting in front of
your computer monitor? There are some things that you just have to
judge for yourself, and speakers is one of them.
> I find a lot of info on the Mackies, but very little on the Event PSM8
> model and virtually no comparisons between them.
Well, they're quite incomprarable. <g>
> Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
I'd certainly consider the Dynaudio and Tannoy offerings, but you
really gotta get out there. Opinions about speakers are like opinions
on mic preamps. Everybody has his favorite.
--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo
If you get a chance check out the Blue Sky System One or Pro Desk. I'm
really happy with mine.
Glen O'Toole wrote:
> I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK
K-RoK
> monitors. I like them but the mid-bass hump is killing me for some
reason,
> They sound great as home stereo monitors however >
> I find a lot of info on the Mackies, but very little on the Event
PSM8
> model and virtually no comparisons between them.
>
> I have worked with the Mackies and I like them, but how do the Events
> stack up?
>
> FWIW I never liked the 20/20BAS models.
>
> Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
> They don't have to be active as I am driving my K-RoKs with a Bryston
4B.
>
> Pointers to reviews would be welcome!
>
> TIA!!!!!
>
>
>
> --
> Glenn O'Toole
>
> "Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire
> and
> master of the bagpipes"
Glen O'Toole <keys88@musician.org> wrote:
>I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK K-RoK
>monitors. I like them but the mid-bass hump is killing me for some reason,
>They sound great as home stereo monitors however
I don't like the flabby low end on them either, but you might be able to
do something about that. First thing is to try different placement... if
you get them closer to the wall you'll get a low end boost from the room
and if you pull them away you'll lose that. You may be able to find a place
where you can make things better. You can also try partially blocking the
speaker vents, say with some kind of foam. This will raise the resonant
frequency of the cabinet boost but it'll drop it in amplitude and make it
wider. Between the two you can probably improve things quite a bit.
>I find a lot of info on the Mackies, but very little on the Event PSM8
>model and virtually no comparisons between them.
>
>I have worked with the Mackies and I like them, but how do the Events
>stack up?
>
>FWIW I never liked the 20/20BAS models.
They sound better than the 20/20 but I was not all that delighted with them.
>Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
>They don't have to be active as I am driving my K-RoKs with a Bryston 4B.
How about the Tannoys?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 10:06:53 -0500, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> How about the Tannoys?
> --scott
Hi Scott!
Any particular Tannoy model come to mind in the less than
$1500 range or so?
It doesn't have to be active!
I do mostly acoustic big band jazz stuff, piano/bass/drums either
real instruments or samples.
Tia!
I'm going out next week to listen but I would like an A-List to
weed out the duds in that price range.
--
Glenn O'Toole
"Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire
and
master of the bagpipes"
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:01:38 -0500, Mike Rivers wrote:
>
> In article <38poieF5mlsodU1@individual.net> keys88@musician.org writes:
>
>> I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK K-RoK
>> monitors.
>
> Have you done any research by sitting in front of monitors you're
> considering, or has your research been limited to sitting in front of
> your computer monitor? There are some things that you just have to
> judge for yourself, and speakers is one of them.
I hear ya!
My research has been limited to what I have been using in the various
studios that I play keyboards in so I have heard the Mackies, Dynaudios,
NS-10's Alesis and others.
I have not done a side by side between the Event and Mackie yet, that will
happen next week when go and A/B them.
I'm just looking to put together an A-list to eliminate what others have
found to be duds.
I realize the implications of going with the crowd, but I tend to be
pretty middle of the road and in fact most of my opinions on gear tend to
follow what others say about it.
Not always, but most times.
> Well, they're quite incomprarable. <g>
Ok I'll byte What makes that so ?
IOW what are the strengths and weaknesses of each?
>> Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
>
> I'd certainly consider the Dynaudio and Tannoy offerings, but you
> really gotta get out there. Opinions about speakers are like opinions
> on mic preamps. Everybody has his favorite.
I agree and like I said, I am going out next week.
I'm just interested in eliminating any duds and also trying to avoid the
dreaded "XYZ monitor sounds great in the shop and terrible at home"
syndrome.
The shop I buy from has a very liberal exchange policy BTW, but still it's
easy to get caught up in the moment and I would prefer to walk in with a
known set of players based on popular opinion and start from there.
--
Glenn O'Toole
"Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire
and
master of the bagpipes"
In article <38s0glF5sr1ghU1@individual.net> keys88@musician.org writes:
> I have not done a side by side between the Event and Mackie yet, that will
> happen next week when go and A/B them.
I find that side-by-side comparisons make things too easy - it's too
easy to pick the one you like best without being really sure which one
actually is best. But they do give you good exercise trying to
describe the differences. That will help you to decide what you like
and what you don't like in a speaker, not just that B sounds better
than A.
> > Well, they're quite incomprarable. <g>
>
> Ok I'll byte > What makes that so ?
> IOW what are the strengths and weaknesses of each?
I can't say, they're just different.
> The shop I buy from has a very liberal exchange policy BTW
This is very good. Pick one you like, take it home, and do some mixing
on it. If it works for you, keep it and don't sweat that there might
be something better (there always is). If it doesn't work, try
something else. But give it a fair chance. Experiment with position
and see what effect that has.
--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo
Glen O'Toole <keys88@musician.org> wrote:
> Any particular Tannoy model come to mind in the less than
> $1500 range or so?
> It doesn't have to be active!
> I do mostly acoustic big band jazz stuff, piano/bass/drums either
> real instruments or samples.
I'd start with the Passive Reveal and work up. Tannoy basically has three
totally different monitor lines, which are voiced differently, so there is
a wide variety of different character all from one dealer. None of them are
duds, but some of them may be to your taste and some may not.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
I have HD824's and I don't like them at all compared to my Dynaudio
BM15p's (with Bryston 3B). They sound harsh and you can really hear
the crossover. I don't have any experience with the PSM8's but for a
grand, you can't go wrong with the Dynaudios.
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:31:15 -0500, Glen O'Toole <keys88@musician.org>
wrote:
>I've been doing a lot of research lately in order to replace my KRK K-RoK
>monitors. I like them but the mid-bass hump is killing me for some reason,
>They sound great as home stereo monitors however >
>I find a lot of info on the Mackies, but very little on the Event PSM8
>model and virtually no comparisons between them.
>
>I have worked with the Mackies and I like them, but how do the Events
>stack up?
>
>FWIW I never liked the 20/20BAS models.
>
>Should I consider any other models in the $1500.00 and under range?
>They don't have to be active as I am driving my K-RoKs with a Bryston 4B.
>
>Pointers to reviews would be welcome!
>
>TIA!!!!!
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:08:04 -0600, Harry Houdini wrote:
> I have HD824's and I don't like them at all compared to my Dynaudio
> BM15p's (with Bryston 3B). They sound harsh and you can really hear
> the crossover. I don't have any experience with the PSM8's but for a
> grand, you can't go wrong with the Dynaudios.
>
I think we may have similar tastes because I went to listen to both the
SP8 and HR824 the other day and I walked away with similar feelings.
I do mainly acoustic jazz, light classical and piano and like listening to
(not recording) big band jazz, just so anyone reading this has a point of
reference. I'm also a pianist so all my keyboards go through the system in
my project studio. My living room system has KEF 105's and Brston 4b as
well.
Anyhow, I used a variety of CD's to listen and spent about 2 hours playing around with
the systems at Guitar Center which had both monitors I am interested in as well
as a couple of others I had read about.
I found the Event's to have a very "big" sound, but the low end reminded me a lot
of the 20/20bas which to my ears sounds "tubby" on the bottom.
The uppers were not as detailed as the Mackies, I could not easily
pick out individual voices the stereo image like I can with the Mackies or K-Roks.
Personally I think this monitor would be pretty good for rock, dance or that
kind of music.
The Mackies had a superb bottom, real tight and crisp with no flutter at all
but I did not like something about the upper midrange on them.
With my Manhattan Transfer CD's the vocals sounded a bit rough in spots.
I am really nitpicking here BTW and maybe I am hearing things I never
heard before, but I don't hear this on my KEF's nor my KRK K-Rok's.
The overall balance and imaging was superb however.
I could easily mix on the Mackies, but to be honest ignoring the mid-bass
hump on the K-roks, which I minimized thanks to Scott's and others
suggestions on placement, I don't hear all that much difference in
the total picture. Yes the Mackies go lower and are smoother down there
but the K-Roks seem to have a smoother, more even mid/upper mid and
image just about as good as the Mackies to my ears.
I also listened to the Berhinger Truth 2031A which I absolutely hated!
It may look a little like a Genelec, but it doesn't sound like one!
I listened to some Tannoy Reveals and while they were ok, they have
that Tannoy sound that I have never been able to warm up to for some
reason. I know many people use them and they are a great monitor, just not
for me.
Bottom line is the I didn't like the Event's because I don't think
they would be a good match for my style of music.
I loved the Mackies, but I'm not certain that I hear a $1300 difference
in my budget compared to my K-rok/Bryston combo that I am now using, especially
since I spent a lot of time with placement and improved the smoothness
of the system.
the passives can be either great or not depending on your room. Unless you
want to patch an eq which is crazy w nearfields. The problem w the BM15p's
is you get 2 choices, ports plugged or unplugged. In my place they were too
boomy, with the ports plugged they were light on the bottom. They mackies I
can get to work because of the switching they have. I would imagine the
active Dynaudio's are the way to go
--Lou Gimenez
The Music Lab
2" 24track w all the Goodies
www.musiclabnyc.com
> From: Glen O'Toole <keys88@musician.org>
> Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:40:14 -0500
> Subject: Re: Event Studio Precision 8 VS Mackie HR824 Opinions?
>
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:08:04 -0600, Harry Houdini wrote:
>
>> I have HD824's and I don't like them at all compared to my Dynaudio
>> BM15p's (with Bryston 3B). They sound harsh and you can really hear
>> the crossover. I don't have any experience with the PSM8's but for a
>> grand, you can't go wrong with the Dynaudios.
>>
>
> I think we may have similar tastes because I went to listen to both the
> SP8 and HR824 the other day and I walked away with similar feelings.
>
> I do mainly acoustic jazz, light classical and piano and like listening to
> (not recording) big band jazz, just so anyone reading this has a point of
> reference. I'm also a pianist so all my keyboards go through the system in
> my project studio. My living room system has KEF 105's and Brston 4b as
> well.
>
> Anyhow, I used a variety of CD's to listen and spent about 2 hours playing
> around with
> the systems at Guitar Center which had both monitors I am interested in as
> well
> as a couple of others I had read about.
>
> I found the Event's to have a very "big" sound, but the low end reminded me a
> lot
> of the 20/20bas which to my ears sounds "tubby" on the bottom.
> The uppers were not as detailed as the Mackies, I could not easily
> pick out individual voices the stereo image like I can with the Mackies or
> K-Roks.
> Personally I think this monitor would be pretty good for rock, dance or that
> kind of music.
>
>
> The Mackies had a superb bottom, real tight and crisp with no flutter at all
> but I did not like something about the upper midrange on them.
> With my Manhattan Transfer CD's the vocals sounded a bit rough in spots.
> I am really nitpicking here BTW and maybe I am hearing things I never
> heard before, but I don't hear this on my KEF's nor my KRK K-Rok's.
> The overall balance and imaging was superb however.
>
> I could easily mix on the Mackies, but to be honest ignoring the mid-bass
> hump on the K-roks, which I minimized thanks to Scott's and others
> suggestions on placement, I don't hear all that much difference in
> the total picture. Yes the Mackies go lower and are smoother down there
> but the K-Roks seem to have a smoother, more even mid/upper mid and
> image just about as good as the Mackies to my ears.
>
> I also listened to the Berhinger Truth 2031A which I absolutely hated!
> It may look a little like a Genelec, but it doesn't sound like one!
>
> I listened to some Tannoy Reveals and while they were ok, they have
> that Tannoy sound that I have never been able to warm up to for some
> reason. I know many people use them and they are a great monitor, just not
> for me.
>
> Bottom line is the I didn't like the Event's because I don't think
> they would be a good match for my style of music.
> I loved the Mackies, but I'm not certain that I hear a $1300 difference
> in my budget compared to my K-rok/Bryston combo that I am now using,
> especially
> since I spent a lot of time with placement and improved the smoothness
> of the system.
>
> I'm going to give the Dynaudios a listen.
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Glenn O'Toole
>
> "Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire
> and BagPipe Tuner"
>
>
>
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