vanity 8 digits

[arnie]

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I have a vanity number with a local (ie not toll free) area code. It
takes 8 digits (exclusive of area code) to spell the vanity word.
Dialing the 8 digits from a Sprint phone results in a recording that
the "number or code" is incorrect". Is there any solution here or is it
just wait and hope that Sprint makes network adjustments that will
process 8 digits. (it seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers)
If anyone has a real solution that works, I'm willing to pay serious
money for it.

arnie

 

[Guest]

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Dial only the 7 digits. There, easy, wasn't it? ;>)

arnie wrote:
> I have a vanity number with a local (ie not toll free) area code. It
> takes 8 digits (exclusive of area code) to spell the vanity word.
> Dialing the 8 digits from a Sprint phone results in a recording that
> the "number or code" is incorrect". Is there any solution here or is
it
> just wait and hope that Sprint makes network adjustments that will
> process 8 digits. (it seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers)
> If anyone has a real solution that works, I'm willing to pay serious
> money for it.
>
> arnie

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:16:20 -0800, arnie wrote:

>
> I have a vanity number with a local (ie not toll free) area code. It
> takes 8 digits (exclusive of area code) to spell the vanity word.
> Dialing the 8 digits from a Sprint phone results in a recording that
> the "number or code" is incorrect". Is there any solution here or is it
> just wait and hope that Sprint makes network adjustments that will
> process 8 digits. (it seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers)
> If anyone has a real solution that works, I'm willing to pay serious
> money for it.
>
> arnie

Is this set up to some kind of pbx system? Most 8-digit setups I have seen
were 7digits for the actual number and then the 8th digit was used on the
pbx for the extension/menu.

 

[Guest]

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Sorry for being so dense, but your first sentence confuses me. How can
a local area code not be toll free? To me, if you have to pay a toll
when calling an area code, then it is not a local call. Local calls are
toll free. I am also not sure what you mean by "8 digit toll free
numbers". Here one can dial 7 digit local numbers. Any additional
numbers pressed are just ignored.

 

[arnie]

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What I'm saying is that I have this 8 digit vanity number for my
business. The problem is that if one of my customers calls this
vanity number that I advertise, they won't get through if they dial
from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that it takes to make up the vanity
word.

 

[arnie]

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What I'm saying is that I have this 8 digit vanity number for my
business. The problem is that if one of my customers calls this
vanity number that I advertise, they won't get through if they dial
from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that it takes to make up the vanity
word.

 

[arnie]

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No, there's no pbx involved. I simply mean the vanity word is made up
of 8 digits. It spells the word "accident". So if someone dials from a
Sprint phone the 8 digits that it takes to spell the word, they get a
recording saying the number is incorrect. It's not an 800 or 888 or 877
etc area code. It's a Florida area code.

 

[arnie]

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I just mean the vanity word is made up of 8 digits. It spells the word
"accident". So if someone dials from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that
it takes to spell the word, they get a recording saying the number is
incorrect. (It's not an 800 or 888 or 877 etc area code. It's a Florida
area code.) So at least in my area the 8th digit isn't ignored, it's
causes the wrong number recording.

 

[arnie]

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I just mean the vanity word is made up of 8 digits. It spells the word
"accident". So if someone dials from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that
it takes to spell the word, they get a recording saying the number is
incorrect. (It's not an 800 or 888 or 877 etc area code. It's a Florida
area code.) So at least in my area the 8th digit isn't ignored, it's
causes the wrong number recording.

 

[arnie]

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I just mean the vanity word is made up of 8 digits. It spells the word
"accident". So if someone dials from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that
it takes to spell the word, they get a recording saying the number is
incorrect. (It's not an 800 or 888 or 877 etc area code. It's a Florida
area code.) So at least in my area the 8th digit isn't ignored, it's
causes the wrong number recording.

 

[arnie]

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I just mean the vanity word is made up of 8 digits. It spells the word
"accident". So if someone dials from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that
it takes to spell the word, they get a recording saying the number is
incorrect. (It's not an 800 or 888 or 877 etc area code. It's a Florida
area code.) So at least in my area the 8th digit isn't ignored, it's
causes the wrong number recording.

 

[Guest]

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"Jerome Zelinske" <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
newspWud.8597$yr1.8231@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> I am also not sure what you mean by "8 digit toll free
> numbers".

800-, 866-, 888-...

-F

 

[Guest]

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arnie wrote:
> What I'm saying is that I have this 8 digit vanity number for my
> business.

No. You don't.

You have a 7-digit vanity number, and the landline phone system happens to
ignore more than 7 digits if you aren't dialing a long-distance number.

>The problem is that if one of my customers calls this
> vanity number that I advertise, they won't get through if they dial
> from a Sprint phone the 8 digits that it takes to make up the vanity
> word.

And it's Sprint's fault that your customers are too stupid to only dial seven
digits?

Actually, I imagine they're probably *not* that stupid. Most people understand
that only seven digits make up a local phone number (ten in areas where the
area code is required for local calls). I really, honestly, think you're (a)
making a mountain out of a molehill and (b) not giving your customers enough
credit for having working brains.


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[Guest]

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"ZJ Driver" <cm_fern@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:FW0vd.20734$2e.1653@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Jerome Zelinske" <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> newspWud.8597$yr1.8231@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> I am also not sure what you mean by "8 digit toll free
>> numbers".
>
> 800-, 866-, 888-...

Huh? Those would be 10 digit numbers.

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[Guest]

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That would be 10 digits. I still do not know what she means by "it
seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers". There are no 8 digit
numbers, toll free or toll. Again, how can a local area code not be
toll free. If a call to an area code gets charged a toll, it is not
local.

 

[Guest]

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:22:34 +0000, Jerome Zelinske wrote:

> That would be 10 digits. I still do not know what she means by "it
> seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers". There are no 8 digit
> numbers, toll free or toll. Again, how can a local area code not be
> toll free. If a call to an area code gets charged a toll, it is not
> local.

There is such things as 8digit dialing where the first 7 digits identifies
the line and any digit after is forwarded to what ever is listening on
that line, such as a pbx system for an extension. Such a set is odd but
still in use.

 

[tinman]

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Jerome Zelinske wrote:
> That would be 10 digits. I still do not know what she means by "it
> seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers". There are no 8 digit
> numbers, toll free or toll.

I think he meant something like 1-800-Mattress ("Leave off the last 's'
for savings."). Of course by that logic, his "8 digit" vanity number
would work too--if prefaced with 1-xxx too. But if he advertised it that
way, them locals would get confused when dialing from a land-line. ;-)


--
Mike

 

[arnie]

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FYI With regard to whether it's Sprint's "fault" that the 8th digit
causes the call to fail , ATT and T Mobile do process the 8th digit
such that the call goes through.

While lots of people realize that there's only 7 digits to a phone
number, where the vanity word is short such that it's not obvious that
it's more than 7 digits, I doubt many people will sit there and count.

 

[arnie]

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Jerome: re your statement that "There is such things as 8 digit dialing
where the first 7 digits identifies
> the line and any digit after is forwarded to what ever is listening
on
> that line, such as a pbx system for an extension. Such a set is odd
but
> still in use." If you have any thoughts about how to set up such a
pbx system such that Sprint will process the 8the digit you're hired.
And I'm quite serious. And with regard to some of the other posts on
this topic, ATT and T Mobile do process the 8th digit such that the
call goes through.






Central wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:22:34 +0000, Jerome Zelinske wrote:
>
> > That would be 10 digits. I still do not know what she means by
"it
> > seems to be fine for 8 digit toll free numbers". There are no 8
digit
> > numbers, toll free or toll. Again, how can a local area code not
be
> > toll free. If a call to an area code gets charged a toll, it is
not
> > local.
>
> There is such things as 8digit dialing where the first 7 digits
identifies
> the line and any digit after is forwarded to what ever is listening
on
> that line, such as a pbx system for an extension. Such a set is odd
but
> still in use.

 

[Guest]

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arnie wrote:
> FYI With regard to whether it's Sprint's "fault" that the 8th digit
> causes the call to fail , ATT and T Mobile do process the 8th digit
> such that the call goes through.

OK.

> While lots of people realize that there's only 7 digits to a phone
> number, where the vanity word is short such that it's not obvious that
> it's more than 7 digits, I doubt many people will sit there and count.

I don't count out loud, personally; I just know when I've dialed seven digits.
I don't dial more than seven even from a landline.

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[Guest]

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:02:14 -0800, arnie wrote:

If you have any thoughts about how to set up such a
> pbx system such that Sprint will process the 8the digit you're hired.
> And I'm quite serious. And with regard to some of the other posts on
> this topic, ATT and T Mobile do process the 8th digit such that the
> call goes through.

Have you tried using 1-(area-code)-8digit number or just the
(area-code)-8digit number? The problem you are having is that sprintpcs is
filtering for known dial-plans such as 3(area-code)-7(number) which is
well a know 10digit dialing pattern. If neither work I'm afraid you will
not be able to get the number to work with sprintpcs as it is now. It
would be best to send them emails/call their business offices about this.
They maybe willing to work with you.

 

[Guest]

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:22:29 -0800, Steve Sobol wrote:

> I don't count out loud, personally; I just know when I've dialed seven digits.
> I don't dial more than seven even from a landline.

Here we have 10digit dialing and you can always tell when you have dialed
more then 10 digits. Even with only 7digit dialing it can be obvious.

 

[Guest]

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:22:34 +0000, Jerome Zelinske wrote:
>
> Again, how can a local area code not be
> toll free. If a call to an area code gets charged a toll, it is not local.

That may be the case for cellular calls, but not for landlines.
From my home, I can call dozens of nearby cities that are in the same
area code, but are a toll call.

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John Richards

 

[Guest]

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Here we dial 7 or 11 not 10. Any 7 digit call to the same area code
that is not local gets an error message. That is the was it is for the
rest of the area codes in this state. In my area code, the entire area
is local.

 

[Guest]

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:53:05 +0000, Jerome Zelinske wrote:

> Here we dial 7 or 11 not 10. Any 7 digit call to the same area code
> that is not local gets an error message. That is the was it is for the
> rest of the area codes in this state. In my area code, the entire area
> is local.

That is just how it is here. Just instead of 7/11 we have 10/11. If
we dial an areacode+number combo that is considered long distance there is
an error prompt explaining that you have to dial a 1. A lot of places are
switching to 10 digit dialing for local calling but wither you dial 7,10,
or 4(just a random number) for your local dialing you will notice if the
number you attempt to dial is different then what you are used to dialing.