situation: I've got a song with an acoustic guitar main rhythm part, and
another acoustic guitar doing lead fills on top of it. But because of
budget constraints, it's the same guitar, and the same mic
so how should I go about making it so that the two tracks don't blend
together?
there's the obvious, panning, but can I do more? Maybe put more reverb on
one? delay? Eq? I'm guessing eq is probably the best way to do this, but
I'm not sure exactly what I should do... I think in this mix I'd like
to bring the "lead" guitar up a little bit, but I don't want it to totally
drown out the rhythm guitar.
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After listening to your clip, it doesn't sound like there is that much
of a problem to me, the lead is easily distinguishable from the other
part -- the playing style, attack of the notes, and the level
difference allow you to hear them both clearly.
Otherwise, yes, EQ, and panning, and giving each guitar its own
ambience with a room/reverb/delay/compression effect. With the EQ you
could try scooping out the mids a bit on rhythm guitar, and adding
them a bit on the other, etc.
Al
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:55:30 -0500, "£ Î Z @ R Ð"
<jattea@adelphia.net> wrote:
>situation: I've got a song with an acoustic guitar main rhythm part, and
>another acoustic guitar doing lead fills on top of it. But because of
>budget constraints, it's the same guitar, and the same mic
>
>so how should I go about making it so that the two tracks don't blend
>together?
>
>(here's the current mix of the song:
>http://www.guestroomproject.com/Another%20Road.mp3 .. the second acoustic
>guitar part comes in at about 43 seconds.)
>
>there's the obvious, panning, but can I do more? Maybe put more reverb on
>one? delay? Eq? I'm guessing eq is probably the best way to do this, but
>I'm not sure exactly what I should do... I think in this mix I'd like
>to bring the "lead" guitar up a little bit, but I don't want it to totally
>drown out the rhythm guitar.
>
>(and a compulsory plug, please listen to the rest of my music at
>www.guestroomproject.com. The whole point of the project is to get the
>music in as many hands as possible, so I'm giving the cds away for
>ABSOLUTELY FREE, no shipping or nuthin'! Just send at email to the CONTACT
>ME on the site.)
On 3/10/05 6:55 PM, in article JNmdnWfTKfvsQ63fRVn-3g@adelphia.com, "£ Î Z @
R Ð" <jattea@adelphia.net> wrote:
> situation: I've got a song with an acoustic guitar main rhythm part, and
> another acoustic guitar doing lead fills on top of it. But because of
> budget constraints, it's the same guitar, and the same mic
>
> so how should I go about making it so that the two tracks don't blend
> together?
Ummmm.. Don;t the PARTS themselves lend to something you WANT to blend
together in the whole of the arrangement?
If you pop it to mono, what's wrong?
£ Î Z @ R Ð wrote:
> situation: I've got a song with an acoustic guitar main rhythm part, and
> another acoustic guitar doing lead fills on top of it. But because of
> budget constraints, it's the same guitar, and the same mic
>
> so how should I go about making it so that the two tracks don't blend
> together?
I took a quick listen, I don't think you need to do anything to separate
the guitars from each other. As already mentioned, the difference in the
parts provides plenty of distinction.
One thing I do notice, there seems to be a bit of buildup in the lower
midrange in this mix. It's just a combination of a lot of the
instruments contributing to the problem. You might want to try to EQ out
a little of that on a few of the tracks. Otherwise, it's a pretty nice mix.
I'm a total newbie so take my opinion for what it's worth...
I'd try recording the secondary guitar part a bit more off mic to pick
up more room reverb and pan it a bit left. Record the lead guitar part
close mic and pan a bit right.
"£ Î Z @ R Ð" <jattea@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:JNmdnWfTKfvsQ63fRVn-3g@adelphia.com...
> situation: I've got a song with an acoustic guitar main rhythm part, and
> another acoustic guitar doing lead fills on top of it. But because of
> budget constraints, it's the same guitar, and the same mic
>
> so how should I go about making it so that the two tracks don't blend
> together?
>
> (here's the current mix of the song:
> http://www.guestroomproject.com/Another%20Road.mp3 .. the second acoustic
> guitar part comes in at about 43 seconds.)
>
I only listened on some computer speakers but it sounded fine I thought.
Somehow, I understand your doubts about the separation of the two
guitars in the mix - but only for the one from 0:43 on! But panning
wouldn't solve the problem, if you've downmixed already to stereo; for
that purpose, the pan positions of the two guitars are too close, I
guess...
The "second" solo from 1:23 on is IMHO much more brilliant and really
SOLO.., here I wouldn't touch the mix! Is nice how it is!
One thing's a little bit strange to me:
At 2:31, there's an instrumental "postlude", starting pretty normal in
sound - but after few seconds, ~at 2:36 , the sound (and volume)
increases, IMHO a bit unnaturally, caused by the solo guitar, which is
mixed-in a bit too direct, too close....
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