Mac Desktop Hotsyne grief

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Rescuing a friend:

OS9.x
Desktop 4.2.1

a) Somehow it got installed outside of Applications, so I moved it all
into the Appliactions folder.

But HotSync is now annoyed; it complains that the Conduit Manager must
be in the same folder as Hotsync.... but it is. I looked for Pref files,
etc to zap and recreate. Still no joy. If I start the Conduit Manager
before initating the HotSync; that works..

How do I reeducate the desktop as to where its files are?

b) All his desktop were under user "unknown" and the Zire had his
name but no addresses under it.

I screwed around trying to figure how to get the entries from
"unknown" to his name. I finally saved them out as export, then
Merged them back in again. Was there a faster way?





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A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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"Dwight Stewart" <stewartx@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> writes:




> On Mac operating systems prior to OS-X, there were hidden desktop files
>(DesktopDB and DesktopDF) that kept track of where all applications and
>associated files were installed. Properly written Mac programs were supposed
>to use these only as a guide, falling back on the creator and type codes
>when that failed. This is how Mac users were free to move files and
>applications around without worry. Sadly, many applications ported to the
>Mac never followed these rules, instead depending on one of two possible
>methods of tracking files - depending on the desktop files alone or
>depending on a preference file.

Thanks..

This is booting OS9, not Classic under X.

I never grokked that was what those ^%&% Desktop[DB/DF] files did.
I can try rebuilding the desktop and/or zapping them. I seem to
recall that Sherlock can find hidden files, but if not I have other
tools around.

> Of course, if the program is depending on a preference file, the only
>solution is to find that file and delete it. Once this is done, the program
>should rebuild the missing preference file (either by asking you where the
>files are located or by finally using the creator and type codes it should
>have used in the first place).

I was surprised to NOT find a Palm file under prefs. There was one
elsewhere in the System folder, but it appears to be only the "wanna
register?" placeholder.
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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"Dwight Stewart" <stewartx@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> writes:


> Sadly, that's about all there is with Sherlock. It can't do a thing with
>those hidden files. You'll need a dedicated program, or an AppleScript, to
>actually delete the hidden desktop files so they can be truly rebuilt. Like
>I said, finding one on the internet should be fairly easy.

I thought that once they were "found" I could delete them, but OK.


>> I was surprised to NOT find a Palm file
>> under prefs. There was one elsewhere in
>> the System folder, but it appears to be
>> only the "wanna register?" placeholder.


> It may store that information internally. However, don't blame Palmone for

Tried deleting it; no change..

>this one. The core of the Mac Palm Desktop software was written by Claris,
>and Apple is absolutely notorious for ignoring their own development
>guidelines. FYI, Claris (so named for "Claris," the "dog-cow," in the
>"print" dialog box) was Apple's software division at one time and the
>Pre-OSX Palm Desktop was originally called Claris Organizer (sold to Palmone
>when Claris Inc re-merged with Apple).

Thanks.
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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"David Lesher" wrote:
>
> "Dwight Stewart" writes:
> > If the program is using the desktop files,
> > and if your friend is running OS-9 alone
> > (not OS-9 under OS-X), the solution is
> > to rebuild those desktop files.
>
> This fixed it. Guess I lucked out.
>
> Thanks for the help.


Really glad to hear that. I don't have a Mac anymore (not for the last two
years) and, without anything in front of me to look at, was hoping I
remembered all the keystrokes, and so on, correctly. Take care.


Dwight Stewart