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Anonymous
March 12, 2005 9:27:09 PM

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Can any of you computer-knowledgeable folks recommend an automatic
backup app to use with Windows 98SE? One of my kids was mad at another
one and intentionally deleted some of that one's savegame files. That
offense has been dealt with, but that doesn't restore the lost
savegames. I doubt that this will happen again, but I want to minimize
damage from lost savegames by whatever cause in the future. I think if
I set some app to automatically backup all of the various
savegame-type files (I assume this could be selectable by file
extension) every time the machine is started, plus every night at
midnight for those nights that they leave it turned on overnight, that
would be a big help.

I'm hoping for some kind of freeware or at least try-and-buy
shareware, so I can make sure it will do what I need.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.

John
Anonymous
March 12, 2005 11:26:12 PM

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In article <jf17319gmcn6ten68c5pmp0bk6ag3l9a41@4ax.com>,
reply@this.newsgroup.com says...

> Can any of you computer-knowledgeable folks recommend an automatic
> backup app to use with Windows 98SE? One of my kids was mad at another
> one and intentionally deleted some of that one's savegame files. That
> offense has been dealt with, but that doesn't restore the lost
> savegames. I doubt that this will happen again, but I want to minimize
> damage from lost savegames by whatever cause in the future. I think if
> I set some app to automatically backup all of the various
> savegame-type files (I assume this could be selectable by file
> extension) every time the machine is started, plus every night at
> midnight for those nights that they leave it turned on overnight, that
> would be a big help.
>
> I'm hoping for some kind of freeware or at least try-and-buy
> shareware, so I can make sure it will do what I need.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions you may have.

Pick up an external USB hard disk with a configurable "one-touch" backup
button and software combo. For $100 or so, you can add ~80GB storage to
your system and accomplish your backup needs.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"Little more than three years after US forces, backed by their faithful
British allies, set foot in Afghanistan, the entire historical dynamic
of this blighted region has already shifted.

Ignoring, fortunately, the assault from clever world opinion on
America=3Fs motives, its credibility and its ambitions, the Bush
Administration set out not only to eliminate immediate threats
but also to remake the Middle East."
- Gerard Baker
Anonymous
March 13, 2005 2:12:04 PM

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:27:09 -0600, John Smith
<reply@this.newsgroup.com> wrote:

>Can any of you computer-knowledgeable folks recommend an automatic
>backup app to use with Windows 98SE? One of my kids was mad at another
>one and intentionally deleted some of that one's savegame files. That
>offense has been dealt with, but that doesn't restore the lost
>savegames. I doubt that this will happen again, but I want to minimize
>damage from lost savegames by whatever cause in the future. I think if
>I set some app to automatically backup all of the various
>savegame-type files (I assume this could be selectable by file
>extension) every time the machine is started, plus every night at
>midnight for those nights that they leave it turned on overnight, that
>would be a big help.
>
>I'm hoping for some kind of freeware or at least try-and-buy
>shareware, so I can make sure it will do what I need.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
>
>John
>

Haha..you have a devious son there.
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Anonymous
March 14, 2005 2:42:59 AM

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Hi,

Cheapest solution : add some lines to the autoexec.bat file in the root
of your c: drive - use notepad to add them. Every time time you startup
your pc these commands will get executed

example - edit for your particular case

xcopy "c:\program files\kidsgames\savegames\*.*" c:\backup\*.* /Q /Y

this line will copy every file from the savegames directory to the
c:\backup directory, overwrite same name files there automatically (/Y)
and doesn't show which file are copied (/Q)

add such a line for every game, and make sure c:\backup exists

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 4:42:37 AM

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Try "Go Back".

http://www.symantec.com/goback/

or you could just write a batch file that copies the files to another set
of folders and put the batch file in you startup folder. For instance
create five folders back1, back2 ... back5. In notepad create a new file
and type into it:

@echo off
xcopy \back4\*.* \back5
xcopy \back3\*.* \back4
xcopy \back2\*.* \back3
xcopy \back1\*.* \back2
xcopy \game\saves\*.sav \back1

and save this file as myback.bat.

Everytime you start windows the most current saved files will be put in
\back1 Using this scheme you can restart Windows 4 times before you lose a
unique set. You'd have to substitute in the exact path and file names in
the last line of the batch file (e.g. xcopy \game\saves\*.sav). * and ? are
wildcards: * = any number of characters, ? = any one character. Multiple ?
are legal. So ??? is the same as "any 3 characters".

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:27:09 -0600, John Smith <reply@this.newsgroup.com>
wrote:

>Can any of you computer-knowledgeable folks recommend an automatic
>backup app to use with Windows 98SE? One of my kids was mad at another
>one and intentionally deleted some of that one's savegame files. That
>offense has been dealt with, but that doesn't restore the lost
>savegames. I doubt that this will happen again, but I want to minimize
>damage from lost savegames by whatever cause in the future. I think if
>I set some app to automatically backup all of the various
>savegame-type files (I assume this could be selectable by file
>extension) every time the machine is started, plus every night at
>midnight for those nights that they leave it turned on overnight, that
>would be a big help.
>
>I'm hoping for some kind of freeware or at least try-and-buy
>shareware, so I can make sure it will do what I need.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
>
>John
>
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 8:15:27 AM

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Giftzwerg wrote:
> so, but that's the last time some dumb kid will lose his savegames.

The kid deleted his brother's savegames - isn't that cyber-terrorism :) 

I must admit I secretly admire his ingenuity of adapting the age-old
concept of burning/toilet flushing your brothers' plastic toy soldiers
into a 21st century equivalent.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:08:35 AM

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Giftzwerg wrote:
> I'm completely incapable of being a decent human being for two posts
in
> a row; morning coffee is *always* the first-order-of-business.

You might enjoy this on a monday : http://bofh.ntk.net

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:33:47 AM

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In article <1110786179.129114.217950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
eddysterckx@hotmail.com says...

> Cheapest solution : add some lines to the autoexec.bat file in the root
> of your c: drive - use notepad to add them.

Heck, let's talk about the most expensive solution. SAN modules, a DAT
jukebox, and a copy of Veritas 9.11. Shouldn't run more than $10,000 or
so, but that's the last time some dumb kid will lose his savegames.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"Little more than three years after US forces, backed by their faithful
British allies, set foot in Afghanistan, the entire historical dynamic
of this blighted region has already shifted.

Ignoring, fortunately, the assault from clever world opinion on
America=3Fs motives, its credibility and its ambitions, the Bush
Administration set out not only to eliminate immediate threats
but also to remake the Middle East."
- Gerard Baker
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:41:10 AM

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On 13 Mar 2005 23:42:59 -0800, "eddysterckx@hotmail.com"
<eddysterckx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Cheapest solution : add some lines to the autoexec.bat file in the root
>of your c: drive - use notepad to add them. Every time time you startup
>your pc these commands will get executed

*snip*

Thanks, Eddy. I'll do that if I can't find the old Zip-backup app that
I mentioned to Giftzwerg above.

John
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:41:11 AM

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:33:47 -0500, Giftzwerg
<giftzwerg999@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <1110786179.129114.217950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>eddysterckx@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Cheapest solution : add some lines to the autoexec.bat file in the root
>> of your c: drive - use notepad to add them.
>
>Heck, let's talk about the most expensive solution. SAN modules, a DAT
>jukebox, and a copy of Veritas 9.11. Shouldn't run more than $10,000 or
>so, but that's the last time some dumb kid will lose his savegames.

Are you completely incapable of being a decent human being for two
posts in a row, or have you just not had your coffee yet?

John
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:41:12 AM

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:26:12 -0500, Giftzwerg
<giftzwerg999@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Pick up an external USB hard disk with a configurable "one-touch" backup
>button and software combo. For $100 or so, you can add ~80GB storage to
>your system and accomplish your backup needs.

Thanks for the suggestion, Giftzwerg, but I just put new hard drives
in all of our machines last fall, so we don't really need any extra
storage just yet. However, you have jogged my memory as to the backup
app that I had in mind in asking this question. There was a
dirt-simple backup app that I used to use for my office files about 10
years ago, and I was thinking that it had been included in Windows
3.11, but now I remember that I was using Zip drives for backup then,
so it was probably something that came from Iomega. Now to find an old
floppy or Zip with that app still on it, and see if it will work on
Win98SE...

Anyway, thanks for the reminder.

John
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:41:13 AM

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:42:37 -0800, Capn Queeg <PQueeg@dmscaine.org>
wrote:

>or you could just write a batch file that copies the files to another set
>of folders and put the batch file in you startup folder. For instance
>create five folders back1, back2 ... back5. In notepad create a new file
>and type into it:

Thanks, Queeg. That's what I'll do if I can't find a copy of the old
Iomega backup app that I just remembered.

John
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 12:45:46 PM

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In article <ck3b319oo7uhbu75buhe8t4m739temern9@4ax.com>,
reply@this.newsgroup.com says...

> >> Cheapest solution : add some lines to the autoexec.bat file in the root
> >> of your c: drive - use notepad to add them.
> >
> >Heck, let's talk about the most expensive solution. SAN modules, a DAT
> >jukebox, and a copy of Veritas 9.11. Shouldn't run more than $10,000 or
> >so, but that's the last time some dumb kid will lose his savegames.
>
> Are you completely incapable of being a decent human being for two
> posts in a row, or have you just not had your coffee yet?

I'm completely incapable of being a decent human being for two posts in
a row; morning coffee is *always* the first-order-of-business.



--
Giftzwerg
***
"Little more than three years after US forces, backed by their faithful
British allies, set foot in Afghanistan, the entire historical dynamic
of this blighted region has already shifted.

Ignoring, fortunately, the assault from clever world opinion on
America=3Fs motives, its credibility and its ambitions, the Bush
Administration set out not only to eliminate immediate threats
but also to remake the Middle East."
- Gerard Baker
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 5:18:34 PM

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"Giftzwerg" <giftzwerg999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c9f4ebaf878709898a214@news-east.giganews.com...
> In article <1110786179.129114.217950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> eddysterckx@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Cheapest solution : add some lines to the autoexec.bat file in the root
>> of your c: drive - use notepad to add them.
>
> Heck, let's talk about the most expensive solution. SAN modules, a DAT
> jukebox, and a copy of Veritas 9.11. Shouldn't run more than $10,000 or
> so, but that's the last time some dumb kid will lose his savegames.

Don't Norton still do 'undelete' etc utilities??

The DAT/LTO whatever tape backup solution will only help if the save files
were created prior to your last backup. You need system journalling and some
journal log mining tools, or failing that some remote failover sites with
delayed update replication, say 3 hour, 12 hour, and 24 hour delays plus a
team of operaters working 24x7 who can action data restoration requests. You
will also need a 400 page Service Level Agreement covering rights,
responsibilities, expected response times and expected recovery rate. You've
naturally got a UPS with a minimum of one hour uptime, a backup generator
plus agreements in place for replacement kit hire with specified delivery
and commissioning times? It is a good idea to have your backup solution
regularly checked by specialist external IT security auditors and a
scheduled programme of backup verification reported back to board level.

You may also want to think about hardening your installation against
physical threat, a minimum should be two layers of physical access security
regulated by both human security personnel and electronic access control
systems, and ideally an inner armoured 'Citadel' constructed of face
hardened steel at least half an inch thick (with an entirely separate access
control system), remembering to protect the roof & floor as well as the
walls. Obviously the citadel would include environmental management and fire
suppression systems, plus heat, gas & water detectors. Really you need a
separate power plant, but for this type of system (PC running games
software) that is probably unnecessary.

Job done. ;-)

Cheers
Martin
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 5:18:35 PM

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In article <d146g1$v$1@hermes.shef.ac.uk>, m.rapier@shef.ac.uk says...

> > Heck, let's talk about the most expensive solution. SAN modules, a DAT
> > jukebox, and a copy of Veritas 9.11. Shouldn't run more than $10,000 or
> > so, but that's the last time some dumb kid will lose his savegames.
>
> Don't Norton still do 'undelete' etc utilities??
>
> The DAT/LTO whatever tape backup solution will only help if the save files
> were created prior to your last backup. You need system journalling and some
> journal log mining tools, or failing that some remote failover sites with
> delayed update replication, say 3 hour, 12 hour, and 24 hour delays plus a
> team of operaters working 24x7 who can action data restoration requests. You
> will also need a 400 page Service Level Agreement covering rights,
> responsibilities, expected response times and expected recovery rate. You've
> naturally got a UPS with a minimum of one hour uptime, a backup generator
> plus agreements in place for replacement kit hire with specified delivery
> and commissioning times? It is a good idea to have your backup solution
> regularly checked by specialist external IT security auditors and a
> scheduled programme of backup verification reported back to board level.
>
> You may also want to think about hardening your installation against
> physical threat, a minimum should be two layers of physical access security
> regulated by both human security personnel and electronic access control
> systems, and ideally an inner armoured 'Citadel' constructed of face
> hardened steel at least half an inch thick (with an entirely separate access
> control system), remembering to protect the roof & floor as well as the
> walls. Obviously the citadel would include environmental management and fire
> suppression systems, plus heat, gas & water detectors. Really you need a
> separate power plant, but for this type of system (PC running games
> software) that is probably unnecessary.

I forget what film it's from, but I'm seeing the image of a hand moving
a huge lever to the "AUXILIARY NUCLEAR" position.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"Little more than three years after US forces, backed by their faithful
British allies, set foot in Afghanistan, the entire historical dynamic
of this blighted region has already shifted.

Ignoring, fortunately, the assault from clever world opinion on
America=3Fs motives, its credibility and its ambitions, the Bush
Administration set out not only to eliminate immediate threats
but also to remake the Middle East."
- Gerard Baker
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 9:54:59 PM

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:27:09 -0600, John Smith
<reply@this.newsgroup.com> wrote:

>Can any of you computer-knowledgeable folks recommend an automatic
>backup app to use with Windows 98SE? One of my kids was mad at another
>one and intentionally deleted some of that one's savegame files. That
>offense has been dealt with, but that doesn't restore the lost
>savegames. I doubt that this will happen again, but I want to minimize
>damage from lost savegames by whatever cause in the future. I think if
>I set some app to automatically backup all of the various
>savegame-type files (I assume this could be selectable by file
>extension) every time the machine is started, plus every night at
>midnight for those nights that they leave it turned on overnight, that
>would be a big help.
>
>I'm hoping for some kind of freeware or at least try-and-buy
>shareware, so I can make sure it will do what I need.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
>
>John
>

Get each kid their own Sandisk pendrive and tell them to back up their
own save games. A lot simpler solution.
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 3:19:27 AM

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:18:34 -0000, "Martin Rapier"
<m.rapier@shef.ac.uk> wrote:

>The DAT/LTO whatever tape backup solution will only help if the save files
>were created prior to your last backup. You need system journalling and some
>journal log mining tools, or failing that some remote failover sites with
>delayed update replication, say 3 hour, 12 hour, and 24 hour delays plus a
>team of operaters working 24x7 who can action data restoration requests. You
>will also need a 400 page Service Level Agreement covering rights,
>responsibilities, expected response times and expected recovery rate. You've
>naturally got a UPS with a minimum of one hour uptime, a backup generator
>plus agreements in place for replacement kit hire with specified delivery
>and commissioning times? It is a good idea to have your backup solution
>regularly checked by specialist external IT security auditors and a
>scheduled programme of backup verification reported back to board level.

Spoken like a true MS SQL Server 2000-whatever admin :o ))

O.
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