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Anonymous
May 6, 2005 5:54:38 AM

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Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.

My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?

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Anonymous
May 6, 2005 5:54:39 AM

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"Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>
> My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
> does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?

Just signed on with Sprint at the local Radio Shack in Dearborn Mi. Seems to
me they have all the Sprint stuff I needed: ie accessories,holsters,
chargers....
I would guess thats what you mean by Sprint stuff.
Daniel Cairns
Anonymous
May 6, 2005 5:54:39 AM

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Michael Arends wrote:
> Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>
> My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
> does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?

Circuit Sh*tty hasn't sold Sprint in at least a year. Was reported here on
a.c.spcs. Best Buy and Radio Shack, as far as I know, still do...

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Anonymous
May 6, 2005 1:36:43 PM

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Radio Shack and Best Buy still have a contract to sell Sprint.
Anonymous
May 7, 2005 4:25:51 AM

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Smiling Wickedly, Daniel cairns answered:
> "Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:y7Aee.6306$GQ5.4854@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>
>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>
>
> Just signed on with Sprint at the local Radio Shack in Dearborn Mi. Seems to
> me they have all the Sprint stuff I needed: ie accessories,holsters,
> chargers....
> I would guess thats what you mean by Sprint stuff.
> Daniel Cairns
>
>
I went to my local radio shack Last Night. they had No Phones, No
Software, No Holsters, the display was gone. The kid working there
didn't know diddly.

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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 4:27:15 AM

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Smiling Wickedly, Steve Sobol answered:
> Michael Arends wrote:
>
>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>
>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>
>
> Circuit Sh*tty hasn't sold Sprint in at least a year. Was reported here on
> a.c.spcs. Best Buy and Radio Shack, as far as I know, still do...
>

I remember about Circuit City. But our best Buy which is right across
the street had NO sprint merchandise either. Including phones. same for
my local Radio Shack.

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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 8:00:10 AM

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On Sat, 07 May 2005 00:25:51 GMT, Michael Arends <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:


>Smiling Wickedly, Daniel cairns answered:
>> "Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:y7Aee.6306$GQ5.4854@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>>
>>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>>
>>
>> Just signed on with Sprint at the local Radio Shack in Dearborn Mi. Seems to
>> me they have all the Sprint stuff I needed: ie accessories,holsters,
>> chargers....
>> I would guess thats what you mean by Sprint stuff.
>> Daniel Cairns
>>
>>
>I went to my local radio shack Last Night. they had No Phones, No
>Software, No Holsters, the display was gone. The kid working there
>didn't know diddly.

Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner can
sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.
Anonymous
May 7, 2005 8:00:11 AM

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"AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 May 2005 00:25:51 GMT, Michael Arends
> <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Smiling Wickedly, Daniel cairns answered:
>>> "Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:y7Aee.6306$GQ5.4854@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>>>
>>>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>>>
>>>
>>> Just signed on with Sprint at the local Radio Shack in Dearborn Mi.
>>> Seems to
>>> me they have all the Sprint stuff I needed: ie accessories,holsters,
>>> chargers....
>>> I would guess thats what you mean by Sprint stuff.
>>> Daniel Cairns
>>>
>>>
>>I went to my local radio shack Last Night. they had No Phones, No
>>Software, No Holsters, the display was gone. The kid working there
>>didn't know diddly.
>
> Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner
> can
> sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.

Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.

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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 12:06:15 PM

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Smiling Wickedly, AZ Nomad answered:
> On Sat, 07 May 2005 00:25:51 GMT, Michael Arends <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Smiling Wickedly, Daniel cairns answered:
>>
>>>"Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:y7Aee.6306$GQ5.4854@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>>>
>>>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>>>
>>>
>>>Just signed on with Sprint at the local Radio Shack in Dearborn Mi. Seems to
>>>me they have all the Sprint stuff I needed: ie accessories,holsters,
>>>chargers....
>>>I would guess thats what you mean by Sprint stuff.
>>>Daniel Cairns
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I went to my local radio shack Last Night. they had No Phones, No
>>Software, No Holsters, the display was gone. The kid working there
>>didn't know diddly.
>
>
> Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner can
> sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.

Exactly. It's just getting a little frustrating that every store i have
near me is dropping Sprint. Now, I have to go much further to an actual
*Sprint Store* to get anything I need.

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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 12:07:14 PM

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Smiling Wickedly, NoNoBadDog! answered:
> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnd7ofaa.pt5.aznomad@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>
>>On Sat, 07 May 2005 00:25:51 GMT, Michael Arends
>><mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Smiling Wickedly, Daniel cairns answered:
>>>
>>>>"Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:y7Aee.6306$GQ5.4854@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>>>>
>>>>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>>>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just signed on with Sprint at the local Radio Shack in Dearborn Mi.
>>>>Seems to
>>>>me they have all the Sprint stuff I needed: ie accessories,holsters,
>>>>chargers....
>>>>I would guess thats what you mean by Sprint stuff.
>>>>Daniel Cairns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I went to my local radio shack Last Night. they had No Phones, No
>>>Software, No Holsters, the display was gone. The kid working there
>>>didn't know diddly.
>>
>>Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner
>>can
>>sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.
>
>
> Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.
>
> Bobby
>
I KNOW mine is though, they told me so.
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May 7, 2005 12:18:42 PM

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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>
> Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.
>

And 98.2% of statistics are made up on the spot. I'm not a
mathematician, but it sure looks like the true percentage is greater
than 25%. Right from the horse's mouth:

RadioShack stores: 6,834 (As of 12/31/04)
Company-owned: 5,046
Dealers/franchisees: 1,788

Retail kiosks (wireless phones and accessories): 599 (As of 12/31/04)
Sam's Club: 546
Sprint-branded: 53

As far as dropping SPCS, there certainly hasn't been any official
announcement. But Radio Shack does state this: "Over its history,
RadioShack has gained notoriety for accelerating the adoption rates of
new technologies as evidenced by the introduction of CDMA wireless
technology in 1996."

I don't think they are dropping SPCS in any way. In fact, they appear to
want to open more wireless kiosks--some SPCS-only.

http://www.radioshackcorporation.com/about/index.html


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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 2:38:48 PM

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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message

>>Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner
>>can
>>sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.
>
>
> Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.

Another possibility could be that he lives in an affiliate market, and
that particular affiliate isn't doing a very good job of keeping the
local retailers stocked.

Other than that, there doesn't seem to be an explanation. Radio Shack
is still selling Sprint phones and service on a national level, and it
would appear that Best Buy is, too.


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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 2:38:49 PM

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Smiling Wickedly, Isaiah Beard answered:
> NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>
>>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message
>
>
>>>Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner
>>>can
>>>sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.
>>
>>
>>Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.
>
>
> Another possibility could be that he lives in an affiliate market, and
> that particular affiliate isn't doing a very good job of keeping the
> local retailers stocked.
>
> Other than that, there doesn't seem to be an explanation. Radio Shack
> is still selling Sprint phones and service on a national level, and it
> would appear that Best Buy is, too.
>
>

I don't know if it's an affiliate market or not. I live approx. 50
miles north of Seattle. Coverage is EXCELLENT. But it seems all my
LOCAL stores (within 15-20 miles) are having problems carrying Sprint
stuff consistently. It gets a little frustrating.

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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 7:08:06 PM

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I am an ex-Radio Shack executive. The figure that I gave is true. The
published figures from the last stockholders report includes Dealers, which
make up the majority of non-CO stores. These are generally where RS does
not have a leased facility but has an agreement to maintain a presence in a
retail environment is a facility not leased or owned by RS, but RS maintains
the RS inventory. A privately owned franchise are those few stores where
the owner has paid a franchise fee to Tandy/RS to carry RS product. The
franchisee is responsible for inventory levels, ordering, etc, and is not on
the RS replenishment system. The latter example is in the 3% range,
although I admit it has been a while since I have had access to the actual
figures. Historically, it was much higher in the past, but has been in the 3
percentile range for the last decade or so. In response , the breakout
would be 3% POF, 22% DOF, and 75% COF.

Bobby

"Tinman" <mlynch@REMOVEMEcitlink.net> wrote in message
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> NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>>
>> Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.
>>
>
> And 98.2% of statistics are made up on the spot. I'm not a mathematician,
> but it sure looks like the true percentage is greater than 25%. Right from
> the horse's mouth:
>
> RadioShack stores: 6,834 (As of 12/31/04)
> Company-owned: 5,046
> Dealers/franchisees: 1,788
>
> Retail kiosks (wireless phones and accessories): 599 (As of 12/31/04)
> Sam's Club: 546
> Sprint-branded: 53
>
> As far as dropping SPCS, there certainly hasn't been any official
> announcement. But Radio Shack does state this: "Over its history,
> RadioShack has gained notoriety for accelerating the adoption rates of new
> technologies as evidenced by the introduction of CDMA wireless technology
> in 1996."
>
> I don't think they are dropping SPCS in any way. In fact, they appear to
> want to open more wireless kiosks--some SPCS-only.
>
> http://www.radioshackcorporation.com/about/index.html
>
>
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May 8, 2005 11:04:14 AM

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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> I am an ex-Radio Shack executive.
> The figure that I gave is true. The published figures from the last
> stockholders report includes Dealers,

A dealer is still a privately owned business. I happen to have a
relative who, according to your definition, is a "dealer" (with several
locations). But for all intents and purposes, the local community thinks
of these "dealer locations" as simply Radio Shack stores. In fact, I
hardly ever see a Radio Shack within another store, except for the
kiosks that I provided data for originally.

Regardless, since RadioShack Corporation seemed content to combine
dealers and franchises together, under the total labeled "RadioShack
Stores," (while breaking out the more-obvious kiosk locations
separately) I still maintain that more than 25% of what consumers think
of as "Radio Shack" are privately owned. Anecdotally, many Radio Shacks
I've encountered in smaller communities have been privately owned. I
don't much care about whether they were a dealer or franchisee. But to
just throw out 3% was very misleading. IMHO, YMMV, IDHADITR, etc., etc.


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Anonymous
May 10, 2005 4:14:39 AM

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On Fri, 6 May 2005 19:00:27 -1000, NoNoBadDog! <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:



>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message
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>> Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store owner
>> can
>> sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.

>Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.

Actually just under 30%.

In 2004, 1788 were privately owned, versus 5046 corporate owned.
May 10, 2005 12:25:42 PM

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AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2005 19:00:27 -1000, NoNoBadDog!
> <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd7ofaa.pt5.aznomad@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>>> Most radio shack stores are privately owned franchises. The store
>>> owner
>>> can
>>> sell/do whatever he/she/whoever wants.
>
>> Less than 3% of Radio SDhack stores are privately owned franchises.
>
> Actually just under 30%.
>
> In 2004, 1788 were privately owned, versus 5046 corporate owned.

I'm guessing you didn't read my replies to NoNoBadDog, nor his reply to
me. My intuition tells me that by the time he replies again he will have
moved up from ex-executive to ex-CEO. <g>

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wrong answers.)


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May 11, 2005 6:45:14 AM

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Wal-marts sell Sprint now. They kicked the rented cell companys out of the
stores and now their employees sell Sprint and other carriers in the Connect
center.

"Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Smiling Wickedly, Steve Sobol answered:
>> Michael Arends wrote:
>>
>>>Just wondering WHY all my local stores are dropping support for Sprint.
>>>
>>>My Local Radio shack No longer carries Sprint stuff, BEST BUY no longer
>>>does, and Circuit city no longer does. WHATS going on?
>>
>>
>> Circuit Sh*tty hasn't sold Sprint in at least a year. Was reported here
>> on
>> a.c.spcs. Best Buy and Radio Shack, as far as I know, still do...
>>
>
> I remember about Circuit City. But our best Buy which is right across
> the street had NO sprint merchandise either. Including phones. same for
> my local Radio Shack.
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Anonymous
May 11, 2005 3:03:46 PM

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Tom wrote:
> Wal-marts sell Sprint now. They kicked the rented cell companys out of the
> stores and now their employees sell Sprint and other carriers in the Connect
> center.

I've seen that. Terrible selection though; they seem to only sell the
Nokia 6016 and some other LG phone.


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Anonymous
May 11, 2005 6:42:56 PM

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Tom wrote:
> Wal-marts sell Sprint now. They kicked the rented cell companys out of the
> stores and now their employees sell Sprint and other carriers in the Connect
> center.

Not all Wal-marts sell Sprint. Mine still sells Cingular.


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May 11, 2005 7:03:51 PM

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Tom wrote:
>> Wal-marts sell Sprint now. They kicked the rented cell companys out
>> of the stores and now their employees sell Sprint and other carriers
>> in the Connect center.
>
> Not all Wal-marts sell Sprint. Mine still sells Cingular.

Yea but is your Wal-Mart company-owned or a franchise? Does anyone know
the percentage of Wal-Marts that are company-owned?

<d&r>

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May 12, 2005 1:28:43 AM

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Our Sprint at walmart is a franchise. They have Sanyo, nokia and LG phones


"Tinman" <mlynch@REMOVEMEcitlink.net> wrote in message
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> Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Tom wrote:
>>> Wal-marts sell Sprint now. They kicked the rented cell companys out
>>> of the stores and now their employees sell Sprint and other carriers
>>> in the Connect center.
>>
>> Not all Wal-marts sell Sprint. Mine still sells Cingular.
>
> Yea but is your Wal-Mart company-owned or a franchise? Does anyone know
> the percentage of Wal-Marts that are company-owned?
>
> <d&r>
>
> --
> Mike
>
May 12, 2005 7:05:01 PM

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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
> > Wal-marts sell Sprint now. They kicked the rented cell companys out of
the
> > stores and now their employees sell Sprint and other carriers in the
Connect
> > center.
>
> Not all Wal-marts sell Sprint. Mine still sells Cingular.


Mine sells Sprint, Cingular and T-Mobile as well as TracFone, Net10, Simple
Freedom (AllTel) and T-Mobile To Go prepaids.
!