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I thought I could use my PocketPC for recording a Blues jam I attend, but I
cant lower the input sensitivity enough. At the lowest setting it is still
overloaded, and everything is set to zero. It is a Dell Axim X30 with the
fast processor and the memory upgrade. I didnt expect fabulous results, but
i thought I could at least get a listenable recording so that I could
critique my playing. I am using Resco Audio Recorder as a program, and
record at 44khz 16 bit. Its great for live acoustic recording, but I wish I
could tackle that input sensitivity problem. Anybody have any ideas....

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Use a less sensitive external mic, or a mic w/ a pad, or place/point the
recorder in such a way that it receives less dB, or place something in front
of/over the microphone that won't effect the frequency response too much. It
sounds like the mic is being overloaded and no amount of software tweaking
will fix that. Good luck!

--

Jonny Durango

"Patrick was a saint. I ain't."

http://www.jdurango.com



"Ed K" <electro@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I thought I could use my PocketPC for recording a Blues jam I attend, but
I
> cant lower the input sensitivity enough. At the lowest setting it is still
> overloaded, and everything is set to zero. It is a Dell Axim X30 with the
> fast processor and the memory upgrade. I didnt expect fabulous results,
but
> i thought I could at least get a listenable recording so that I could
> critique my playing. I am using Resco Audio Recorder as a program, and
> record at 44khz 16 bit. Its great for live acoustic recording, but I wish
I
> could tackle that input sensitivity problem. Anybody have any ideas....
>
>

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In article <7Qm3e.104334$534.60669@twister.nyc.rr.com> electro@hvc.rr.com writes:

> I thought I could use my PocketPC for recording a Blues jam I attend, but I
> cant lower the input sensitivity enough. At the lowest setting it is still
> overloaded, and everything is set to zero.

Is there only one audio input on the computer? If it has both a mic
and a line input, try connecting your mic to the line input. This
won't work if your mic requires "plug-in power" (and the computer
provides it).

Back when portable cassette recorders had only a mic input, it was
possible to buy a cable with a built-in attenuator so that the
recorder could be connected to a (line level) tape output of a
receiver. Let's see if those are still available.

Oh, here's a good solution, assuming you have a Radio Shack nearby:
http://tinyurl.com/48rgo

Set the input gain on your computer to a reasonable setting, then use
the knob on the in-line attenuator to adjust the recording volume. It
won't be the optimum impedance match for your microphone, but it won't
be too far off. I doubt that it will work, however, if your mic
requres power from the computer. And with the proper adapters, it will
work to record from a line output from a mixing console, also.



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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <7Qm3e.104334$534.60669@twister.nyc.rr.com> electro@hvc.rr.com
writes:
>
> > I thought I could use my PocketPC for recording a Blues jam I attend,
but I
> > cant lower the input sensitivity enough. At the lowest setting it is
still
> > overloaded, and everything is set to zero.
>
> Is there only one audio input on the computer? If it has both a mic
> and a line input, try connecting your mic to the line input. This
> won't work if your mic requires "plug-in power" (and the computer
> provides it).
>
> Back when portable cassette recorders had only a mic input, it was
> possible to buy a cable with a built-in attenuator so that the
> recorder could be connected to a (line level) tape output of a
> receiver. Let's see if those are still available.
>
> Oh, here's a good solution, assuming you have a Radio Shack nearby:
> http://tinyurl.com/48rgo
>
> Set the input gain on your computer to a reasonable setting, then use
> the knob on the in-line attenuator to adjust the recording volume. It
> won't be the optimum impedance match for your microphone, but it won't
> be too far off. I doubt that it will work, however, if your mic
> requres power from the computer. And with the proper adapters, it will
> work to record from a line output from a mixing console, also.
>
>
>
> --
> I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
> However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
> lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
> you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
> and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

One of the problems is that there are no inputs. You can only use the built
in condenser mike. I just can't believe that there is no way to reduce the
input gain to zero. I'm familiar with the computer, and have used whatever
facilities it has to reduce gain, but it doesn't seem to work. I really
don't need the PocketPC for recording, but it seemed like a very convenient
way to record myself at jams, without lugging a lot of equipment. I guess
it's just another product that doesn't do what I want it to.

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I'm going to Spain with our choir from work (Intel) and wanting
to take something along to document our performances. After
reviewing everything that appears to be out there, I still can't
beat my HHB DAT recorder and a case of DAT tapes. The PDA
recorder, etc. from Core Sound is nice, but the storage is a killer.
Compact Flash and micro-drives are like 10x the cost of equivalent
storage on DAT.

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> One of the problems is that there are no inputs. You can only use the
built
> in condenser mike. I just can't believe that there is no way to reduce the
> input gain to zero.

I'm telling you dude, the software is not your problem. The built-in mics on
these things are usually used for recording lectures and memos, not 100dB
blues jams, they are relatively sensitive and will distort before any gain
stage. Reducing the input gain will just result in a quieter distorted
signal. I'd rather have a bad recording @ 0dB than a bad one at -15dB. Good
luck!

--

Jonny Durango

"Patrick was a saint. I ain't."

http://www.jdurango.com

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In article <AcA3e.104396$534.45547@twister.nyc.rr.com> electro@hvc.rr.com writes:

> One of the problems is that there are no inputs. You can only use the built
> in condenser mike.

Oh, well that does make things difficult.


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hi Ed,

i've used an ipaq + resco for recording various things - usually just
one off noises to use as a sample. i just move further away from the
source - not ideal, but hey.

u could invest in something like this:
http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio-cf.html dependin' of course how
important the need to do it is...

my ipaq is one of the phone-aswell versions so the jack on it is a
'4-pole' apparently. im not sure if this is what your device also
contains. this means that you could in thoery use another 3rd party mic
via... eg:
http://s75376715.oneandoneshop.co. [...] shopscript

im not sure what the results of this would be as i stick to my cheap n
nasty move further away technique ;-)

hope this helps a bit in some way.

LuKe

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Ed K <electro@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

>I thought I could use my PocketPC for recording a Blues jam I attend, but I
>cant lower the input sensitivity enough. At the lowest setting it is still
>overloaded, and everything is set to zero. It is a Dell Axim X30 with the
>fast processor and the memory upgrade. I didnt expect fabulous results, but
>i thought I could at least get a listenable recording so that I could
>critique my playing. I am using Resco Audio Recorder as a program, and
>record at 44khz 16 bit. Its great for live acoustic recording, but I wish I
>could tackle that input sensitivity problem. Anybody have any ideas....

If you had an X5- or X50-series Axim that has two slots (one CF and one
SD) you'd be set. But the X30 only has an SD slot.

With the X50-eries you'd get an external mic pre/A-to-D like the Denecke
AD-20 (for 16/44.1 recording) or our Mic2496 (for recording at up to
24/192) and our PDAudio-CF interface card.

PDAudio-CF goes into the CF card slot. Record to an SD card in the
other slot.

You'd be able to record at better-than-CD quality.

Please visit our PDAudio Web page for more details:

http://www.core-sound.com/HighResRecorderNews.html

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

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