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What's the latest on wireless broadband? I saw the post about airports but
don't see what good that does except for airport employees.



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On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:22:40 -0400, "Al Ginsburg"
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>What's the latest on wireless broadband? I saw the post about airports but
>don't see what good that does except for airport employees.

Not everyone at the airport is an airport employee. Some of them are
actually traveling...

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"Paul Miner" <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in message news:f6h59190n6cqt65tm5f3sns53nh00s8td9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:22:40 -0400, "Al Ginsburg"
> <alginsb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>What's the latest on wireless broadband? I saw the post about airports but
>>don't see what good that does except for airport employees.
>
> Not everyone at the airport is an airport employee. Some of them are
> actually traveling...

I was traveling recently, and decided to try out the WiFi on my PDA
at several airports. All I could get were T-Mobile hotspots. Looks like
T-Mobile has the airport WiFi business pretty well sewed up.

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On Tue, 24 May 2005 14:54:14 +0000, John Richards wrote:

> "Paul Miner" <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in message news:f6h59190n6cqt65tm5f3sns53nh00s8td9@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:22:40 -0400, "Al Ginsburg"
>> <alginsb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>What's the latest on wireless broadband? I saw the post about airports but
>>>don't see what good that does except for airport employees.
>>
>> Not everyone at the airport is an airport employee. Some of them are
>> actually traveling...
>
> I was traveling recently, and decided to try out the WiFi on my PDA
> at several airports. All I could get were T-Mobile hotspots. Looks like
> T-Mobile has the airport WiFi business pretty well sewed up.

I travel around a lot and it is usually a 50/50 chance wither or not an
airport has wifi access. After that maybe then only 50% of the ones who do
have wifi access will provide it for free. Some airports I know of are FT
LAUD INTL and Us Airway's hub in Pittsburgh who provide access for free
while Rhode Island's Providence airport has wifi access at the gate but
for a fee. Another is the delta hub in Atlanta which doesn't have wifi
access at the gate but they do have it at the food court areas for a fee
if I recall. Sadly I have not seen any wifi access in Washington DC at
either Dullas or Regan.

If anything I have seen it is that no one has gained a strong hold on
airport wireless networks and lets hope no one does because I do enjoy the
free networks when I can find them. Of course airports are always changing
what they offer so your millage may vary.
 
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> If anything I have seen it is that no one has gained a strong hold on
> airport wireless networks and lets hope no one does because I do enjoy the
> free networks when I can find them. Of course airports are always changing
> what they offer so your millage may vary.

Read a post on a WiFi forum that airports that closed down WiFI hot
spots were acting illegally as only the FCC has the power to regulate
radio transmissions. They were closing them down because of competition
to subscription sevices, not for safety or health reasons.
 
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:59:37 +0000, DecTxCowboy wrote:

>> If anything I have seen it is that no one has gained a strong hold on
>> airport wireless networks and lets hope no one does because I do enjoy the
>> free networks when I can find them. Of course airports are always changing
>> what they offer so your millage may vary.
>
> Read a post on a WiFi forum that airports that closed down WiFI hot
> spots were acting illegally as only the FCC has the power to regulate
> radio transmissions. They were closing them down because of competition
> to subscription sevices, not for safety or health reasons.

They may not have the power to control the transmission but they do over
the source where the transmitting radio sits. Wither or not they were
being ethical is another point but if the equipment is on their property
they can have it removed for what ever reason they deem necessary. As far
as renting space to others(such as a restaurant) and having them use the
device on their property I wouldn't doubt their lease agreement has the
standard clauses that gives them the ability to restrict what the tent
does with the space or within the space.

As far as my original post I was referring to airport operated hot-spots
in all cases, including the free ones.
 
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 14:54:14 GMT, "John Richards"
<jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:

>"Paul Miner" <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in message news:f6h59190n6cqt65tm5f3sns53nh00s8td9@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:22:40 -0400, "Al Ginsburg"
>> <alginsb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>What's the latest on wireless broadband? I saw the post about airports but
>>>don't see what good that does except for airport employees.
>>
>> Not everyone at the airport is an airport employee. Some of them are
>> actually traveling...
>
>I was traveling recently, and decided to try out the WiFi on my PDA
>at several airports. All I could get were T-Mobile hotspots. Looks like
>T-Mobile has the airport WiFi business pretty well sewed up.

My bad, I thought "Al Ginsbug" was asking about Sprint's EVDO wireless
service, sometimes referred to as wireless broadband. I see now that
everyone but me is talking about WiFi. :)

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On Tue, 24 May 2005 23:46:24 GMT, Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid>
wrote:
>My bad, I thought "Al Ginsbug" was asking about Sprint's EVDO wireless
>service, sometimes referred to as wireless broadband. I see now that
>everyone but me is talking about WiFi. :)

I thought he was talking about EVDO as well...

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Central wrote:
> They may not have the power to control the transmission but they do over
> the source where the transmitting radio sits. Wither or not they were
> being ethical is another point but if the equipment is on their property
> they can have it removed for what ever reason they deem necessary.

You would think, but the issue was tested at a university that tried to
prohibit rogue access points and the FCC sided with the students saying
only the FCC can prohibit radio transmitting devices. In other cases,
contractual office lease agreements were not allowed to prohibit RF
devices. Reminds me of an office lease I read back in 1978 that
prohibited a tenant from have a typewriter on the premises, forcing them
to use the office suites' secretarial service.

The university COULD prohibit the APs from connecting to the local LAN
and the university could also prohibit students from ordering their own
DSL phone service into the rooms.