i can't believe it's not butter

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micheal jackson - thriller, SM7 (now sold as SM7b)
genericaudioper...@hotmail.com wrote:
> i was wondering if anybody knows of some famous tracks/artists who
use
> completely "cheap" mics to record their vocals in the studio.
>
> For example, I heard that Phil Collins likes to use an Sm-58 (I've
also
> heard he likes a C-12). And I understand that Bono sings his album
> tracks into an Sm-58 while listening to a cranked PA stack with no
> headphones.
>
> I heard Michael McDonald uses/used an Sm-57 a lot in the studio, and
I
> think Bonnie Rait likes an RE-20?
>
> I would classify a "cheap" mic as anything under $700, and preferably
a
> dynamic. Bonus points for a handheld.
>
> I heard the Phil Collins track "I missed again" tonight when I was
> shopping and it got me thinking.

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Julian Adamaitis wrote:
> <davidkakon@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1114575303.422625.309100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > micheal jackson - thriller, SM7 (now sold as SM7b)
>
> Here in Seattle, SM7's have had a surge in popularity for grung
vocals.
>
> Julian

When I worked on a Joe Cocker project many years ago I was told he used
a Sennheiser MD421 for his studio vocals. I also read (here, I think)
that Steven Tyler (Aerosmith) uses an SM57.

Ted Spencer, NYC

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genericaudioper...@hotmail.com wrote:

> i was wondering if anybody knows of some famous tracks/artists who
use
> completely "cheap" mics to record their vocals in the studio.

Elton John - SM58 (in some cases)
Billy Squire - SM57

many, many, others I'm shure.

> I would classify a "cheap" mic as anything under $700, and preferably
a
> dynamic. Bonus points for a handheld.

I guess that means all but a couple of mine are
in this category. <

rd
fan of "cheap" dynamic mics

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Bonnie Raitt: RE20
Mick Jagger: SM58

MJ may have used an SM7 on Thriller, but he's been using one of Bruce
Swedien's mint U47s for the last few albums. Bruce did a thing at AES a
few years ago where he played tracks with the Basie Band, Sarah Vaughn
and Michael Jackson all recorded with that same microphone. Pretty
interesting.

Karl Winkler
Lectrosonics, Inc.
http://www.lectrosonics.com

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:22:25 GMT, walkinay@thegrid.net (hank alrich)
wrote:

><prestokid> wrote:
>
>> Julian Adamaitis wrote:
>> > davidkakon wrote in message
>
>> > > micheal jackson - thriller, SM7 (now sold as SM7b)
>
>> > Here in Seattle, SM7's have had a surge in popularity for grung
>> > vocals.
>
>> When I worked on a Joe Cocker project many years ago I was told he used
>> a Sennheiser MD421 for his studio vocals. I also read (here, I think)
>> that Steven Tyler (Aerosmith) uses an SM57.
>
>Many folks seem to think all there is to this is what they consider a
>cheap mic. They forget all about the caliber of the mic preamp, maybe
>having little or no experience with what happens when you plug a decent
>dynamic mic into a really good preamp.

It also helps if you can sing.

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didn't know about Billy Squire. Don't Say No had some great tracks on
it.

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genericaudioper...@hotmail.com wrote:

> didn't know about Billy Squire. Don't Say No had some great tracks
on
> it.

Billy was an 'endorser' for the 57 and featured in
advertising for the mic (mid 80's ?)

rd

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playon wrote:

>(hank alrich) wrote:

> ><prestokid> wrote:

> >> Julian Adamaitis wrote:
> >> > davidkakon wrote in message

> >> > > micheal jackson - thriller, SM7 (now sold as SM7b)

> >> > Here in Seattle, SM7's have had a surge in popularity for grung
> >> > vocals.

> >> When I worked on a Joe Cocker project many years ago I was told he used
> >> a Sennheiser MD421 for his studio vocals. I also read (here, I think)
> >> that Steven Tyler (Aerosmith) uses an SM57.

> >Many folks seem to think all there is to this is what they consider a
> >cheap mic. They forget all about the caliber of the mic preamp, maybe
> >having little or no experience with what happens when you plug a decent
> >dynamic mic into a really good preamp.

> It also helps if you can sing.

Just 'cause _YOU_ don't have AutoVoice!

--
ha

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Zigakly wrote:


> The Blue Ball is the only FET-based dynamic I've encountered, why
> aren't there more buffering options?

Fet-based dynamic? Does this thing have an on board pre-amp?

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genericaudioperson@hotmail.com wrote:

> i was wondering if anybody knows of some famous tracks/artists who use
> completely "cheap" mics to record their vocals in the studio.
>
> For example, I heard that Phil Collins likes to use an Sm-58

LOL - you beat me to it !

That is indeed a *cheap* mic in every possible way - except for its
horrible indestructibilty !


> (I've also
> heard he likes a C-12). And I understand that Bono sings his album
> tracks into an Sm-58 while listening to a cranked PA stack with no
> headphones.
>
> I heard Michael McDonald uses/used an Sm-57 a lot in the studio, and I
> think Bonnie Rait likes an RE-20?

I thought RE-20s were meant to be good ?


> I would classify a "cheap" mic as anything under $700, and preferably a
> dynamic. Bonus points for a handheld.

You're a bit touchy about your mics aren't you ?

I did once use a U87 live as a drum mic - wow was it amazing ! I couldn't
bear the thought of it getting damaged though.


> I heard the Phil Collins track "I missed again" tonight when I was
> shopping and it got me thinking.

Funny thing about *really cheap* mics like the ones we source from Taiwan
for about $8 is that they actually sound *better* than a '58. I guess
no-one has yet worked out how to make any other modern mic sound that bad ?

Or maybe it's the transformer in the '58 ? I bet it saturates with "rock 'n
roll" levels combined with proximity effect.


Graham

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<genericaudioperson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> i was wondering if anybody knows of some famous tracks/artists who use
> completely "cheap" mics to record their vocals in the studio.
>
> For example, I heard that Phil Collins likes to use an Sm-58 (I've also
> heard he likes a C-12). And I understand that Bono sings his album
> tracks into an Sm-58 while listening to a cranked PA stack with no
> headphones.
>
> I heard Michael McDonald uses/used an Sm-57 a lot in the studio, and I
> think Bonnie Rait likes an RE-20?
>
> I would classify a "cheap" mic as anything under $700, and preferably a
> dynamic. Bonus points for a handheld.
>
> I heard the Phil Collins track "I missed again" tonight when I was
> shopping and it got me thinking.

According to Gary Pihl, Brad Delp (Boston) uses an RE-20.