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May 30, 2003 9:27:21 PM

Hey guys,

I've been reading these forums for some time and am finally putting some of my research to use. I'm building two computers, one for myself and one for my wife. (We bought two back in the day when I used to be a regular EQ addict and she couldn't pry me away from the PC)

Anyhow, my current PC's are ancient and now is the time I am putting my research to work and buying the parts to commence building.

-Where can I save money without losing performance?
-Where can I increase performance without increasing money?
-What components am I getting that you think I will dislike/hate/abhor/have problems with?

- I am an Intel ONLY guy. Wife works there ... so in some VERY small way it comes back to me.
- The PC's will PRIMARILY be used for gaming.
- The PC's will also be used as a small TV in my office while I'm gaming on the other. I specifically want the ATI 9700 pro AIW to double up as a TV tuner, video input so I have the option to watch TV on one PC and game on the other.
- I want the PC’s to be fairly quiet!
- YES, I am going to OVERCLOCK!
- The rigs aren't exactly identical, but to make this easier I will only post information about the main rig I plan on building. The differences between the main and the secondarly are few: SATA drives in RAID 0 on main with a 120G WD 8mb HD for media, just a 120G WD 8mb HD on the other.

- NEC/Mitsubishi DP2070SB-BK 22 Inch - $536 shipped
- WD 120G SE HD w/8MB cache - $88 after rebates
- Lite-On 52/24/52 CDRW - $15 after rebate

- ANTEC Performance PLUS Model PLUS1080AMG- with Antec Original TRUE 430W - $120
- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Upgrade Version Academic - $82
- ASUS P4P800 DELUXE Retail - $144.80
- Intel Pentium 4, 2.6c - $229
- KINGSTON HyperX 512MB DDR434 PC3500 - $122 (Will buy 2 and put in 1G total)
- Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum - $163
- Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB HD - $149 (Will buy 2 and put in RAID 0)
- LITE-ON XJ-HD166S 16X DVD ROM Drive - $33
- ATI ALL-IN-WONDER 9700 PRO 128MB AGP - $345
- Logitech Cordless MX Duo - $85
- Logitech's THX certified Z560 4.1 - $140

- Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler - $42
- Zalman ZM-MFC1 6-Channel Fan Controller Panel - $28
- Zalman ZM-F1 80mm Fan with Quiet Mode Adapter - $5 each (5 for the case)

As you can see ... I think I've done my research considering I've never built from scratch before and I'm trying to save as much money as I can at the high end without sacrificing much performance.

I most definately want to keep my PC's QUIET without watercooling. The only thing I think I have not listed was thermal grease and cables. Those will be easy to acquire.

Please, any and all of your opinions are welcome as my goal is to cut the cost of this down without affecting performance. I fear that I need to cut some good performance to cut the price as much as I would like … any deals on anything I missed? Those are the lowest prices I could find out there.

May 30, 2003 10:48:18 PM

Oh ... and am I going to need to buy 2 copies of XP pro or am I able/allowed to use one copy on two PC's? A friend of mine was saying that he uses Windows 2000 because it doesn't have the pain of having to call MS every time you change hardware to get a validation code or some such thing...
May 30, 2003 10:54:20 PM

Youve got to choose between quietness and overclocking. you cant have both. and you will need 2 copies of XP.
May 30, 2003 11:06:04 PM

You sure about that statement? (Overclock OR Quiet) From what I've read, the Zalman HS is pretty efficient and I don't intend to break any OC records. I just would like to get the 2.6 up to 3.2 or better.