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I have just acquired a pair of these 2x15 sub beasties from a friend of
mine for silly money for doing house parties. (They were taking up room
in his kitchen...)

Apparently 2 of the 15's are blown and need reconing. Also the cabs
need to be sanded down and re-sprayed (pref Trimite). However they look
and feel very solid.

The units are PS15-16, (16 ohm, 400 w rms) have no thiele small params
just this link.
http://www.cerwinvega.com/products [...] 215b.html#
specifications

Also not impressed with the 30-45hz O/P from above link.

I am considering two main alternatives:

A) Recone 2 blown drivers @ cost of recone £65 inc vat per driver
(Wemb Loudspeakers)

B) Sell the 2 working drivers AND Replace all four units with either
FANE, Beyma,RCF,B&C,PD. (Thinking Eminence's would want bigger
enclosure). Lowering enclosure impedance from 8 ohms to 4.

Ideas/Suggestions anyone ?

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>Apparently 2 of the 15's are blown and need reconing. Also the cabs
>need to be sanded down and re-sprayed (pref Trimite). However they look
>and feel very solid.
>
>The units are PS15-16, (16 ohm, 400 w rms) have no thiele small params
>just this link.
>http://www.cerwinvega.com/products/professional/ps215b.html#
>specifications
>
>Also not impressed with the 30-45hz O/P from above link.

Cerwin-Vega doesn't bother with things like T-S parameters. They buy
the cheapest possible drivers and put them into boxes without any real
engineering as far as I can tell.

>I am considering two main alternatives:
>
>A) Recone 2 blown drivers @ cost of recone =A365 inc vat per driver
>(Wemb Loudspeakers)

I think this is probably putting good money after bad, since the original
drivers were probably not optimal anyway, and were probably not very well
made.

>B) Sell the 2 working drivers AND Replace all four units with either
>FANE, Beyma,RCF,B&C,PD. (Thinking Eminence's would want bigger
>enclosure). Lowering enclosure impedance from 8 ohms to 4.

This is probably your best bet, and I think if you do some proper engineering
you can get better performance out of the cabinets thane C-V ever did. You
may find that you're going to have to alter the venting in order to get
decent bandwidth out of them.

Just be glad you didn't get any of the C-V horns. They aren't quite as
easy to re-engineer.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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The enclosure is two sealed units, so approx 170 cu ft per driver, with
two ports approx 5" dia per driver. Don't think there is any port tube,
so port length is approx 3/4". Will probably have to lengthen each port
to get f3 about 37hz. (Havent collected boxexs yet, going by memory)...

After considering the above, messing with various TS parms in WinISD,
considering costs and "googling", I have decided to replace all units
with one of the following models,

a) Eminence Delta 15 (450 W RMS)LF £54.95 new

Cheaper but not as sensitive as kappa, 2.5" alu voice coil,14.5 BL,
happy in 6 ft cu area it needs to fit (with proper porting), will give
enough 35hz with plenty equ & big amp, and will be replaced later with
rolls royce driver when revenue returned. For some reason F3 seems
better than kappa !?

b) Eminence Kappa 15 LF (600 W RMS) £74.95 new

More expensive than Delta , 101 db sensitivity, Higher power handling,
3" copper voice coil , happy in 6 cu ft, low'ish Qt, 24 BL ? Respected
on the net, probably won't ever upgrade.

Suggestions/Comments/Experiences anyone ?

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