I recently picked up the MXL 990/991 package from Guitar Center to do
some podcasting (internet broadcasting) with. The setup will be me and
a co-host sitting next to each other, both talking and probably
occasionally talking over each other. What's the best way to arrange
the mics here? I don't have a studio or anything, just a couch and a
large coffee table. If I give each of us a mic, how far away do the
two mics need to be? Or should we put one mic in the middle of us and
boost the levels a bit? (If it matters, we're recording onto a laptop
via a Eurorack mixer and a Sound Blaster USB 24-bit.)
Not familiar with the MXL's, but a lavalier would have been
prefferable. Regardless, trying to work with what you have is going to
be tough unless you use something roughly the height of a dinnig room
table where the mics can be approximately 6" from your mouths. The
closer the better.
Hey, you can go for the Howard Stern look and put boom stands right in
your faces.
"psalter" <psalter@opry.com> wrote in message
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> Not familiar with the MXL's, but a lavalier would have been
> prefferable. Regardless, trying to work with what you have is going to
> be tough unless you use something roughly the height of a dinnig room
> table where the mics can be approximately 6" from your mouths. The
> closer the better.
> Hey, you can go for the Howard Stern look and put boom stands right in
> your faces.
>
get 2 mic stands with booms and 2 pop filters. then adjust mic position and
gain for the best sound in you headphones.
i'm pretty familiar with those mics. you'll need a pop-filter or
windscreen for each. You two should sit facing eachother so each mic
is directional to your own voice only.
> Not familiar with the MXL's, but a lavalier would have been
> prefferable. Regardless, trying to work with what you have is going to
> be tough unless you use something roughly the height of a dinnig room
> table where the mics can be approximately 6" from your mouths. The
> closer the better.
Why that?
> Hey, you can go for the Howard Stern look and put boom stands right in
> your faces.
Nah, de là mode nowadays is headsets.
Kind regards
Peter Larsen
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psalter <psalter@opry.com> wrote:
><<Why that? >>
>
>The large diaphram mics will require so much gain to get the necessary
>input signal that the room ambience will render the signal washy and
>phasey.
Close but not accurate, try again.
Hint: it has something to do with off-axis response and overall pattern
accuracy.
Don't be afraid of needing gain. More gain will increase _all_ the sound
equally, both on and off-axis.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
I think if you have two people sitting on a couch and two large
diaphram microphones on a coffee table and you'd gained them up enough
to see zero VU, the results would indeed be washy and phasey. Just my
opinion.
"psalter" <psalter@opry.com> wrote:
>
> I think if you have two people sitting on a couch and two large
> diaphram microphones on a coffee table and you'd gained them up
> enough to see zero VU, the results would indeed be washy and phasey.
Sure, but only because the mic would see a much higher ratio of
reflected sound to direct than if the mics were closer. It's a
placement problem, not a mic-type issue.
Well, okay, it's *partly* a pattern issue, because at that distance both
talkers would be picked up by both mics, so you'd get comb filtering.
It's still solved with placement though.
--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good
psalter <psalter@opry.com> wrote:
><<Close but not accurate, try again. >>
>
>I think if you have two people sitting on a couch and two large
>diaphram microphones on a coffee table and you'd gained them up enough
>to see zero VU, the results would indeed be washy and phasey. Just my
>opinion.
That's true for the most part.... but there are some large diaphragm mikes
thave have good directivity. The U87 in figure-8 mode can be surprisingly
good for this sort of thing.... the null on the U87 is excellent.
You can't do that sort of thing with a Shanghai special, though. You
might even be pushing it with a 414 in figure-8.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
I think I'll modify the setup so that one of us is on the couch, and
the other's in a chair with the second mic on an end table. Sounds
like if both mics are on the same table, there's going to be a lot of
crosstalk even if they're facing away from each other.
On Fri, 6 May 2005 19:49:39 -0400, Nick wrote
(in article <1115423379.153538.270340@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ):
> I recently picked up the MXL 990/991 package from Guitar Center to do
> some podcasting (internet broadcasting) with. The setup will be me and
> a co-host sitting next to each other, both talking and probably
> occasionally talking over each other. What's the best way to arrange
> the mics here? I don't have a studio or anything, just a couch and a
> large coffee table. If I give each of us a mic, how far away do the
> two mics need to be? Or should we put one mic in the middle of us and
> boost the levels a bit? (If it matters, we're recording onto a laptop
> via a Eurorack mixer and a Sound Blaster USB 24-bit.)
>
> Any advice is appreciated. Thanks--
>
Hi,
Give a listen to the real audio files in my Audio>Sonia directories on my
Online archive. Get to them by going to my website and clicking on the On
Line Archives link in the second column, then Audio, then Sonia. See how you
like them.
They were for a webcast, recorded as we sat on my studio couch.
Regards,
Ty Ford
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
Finished up helping out with a children's musical--Floor and spot mics
galore. Got a T-shirt out of the gig... Anyway, we got a bunch of
good capture from an MXL 990 on a boom stand with the mic perched up
about six feet off the ground angled towards the general cluster of
actors. The distance from the kids to the boom varied from 2 to 8 feet
and we got them well. Think right field... It took awhile to find
this particular sweet spot but it was well worth it. Floor was
carpeted & relatively few reflective surfaces in the vicinity
(muffled)...
This isn't your exact application other than MXL 990's are involved.
For your deal with a similar setup, you won't get any stereo
separation. The MXL was good for this application because (1) it
looked like an expensive mic and people tended to "shape up" <bg>, (2)
we got alot of good capture out of this mic <vbg>, and (3) if it got
smacked, knocked over, busted, whatever, it's only a $70 mic <vvbg>....
I saw a 990 this weekend and although it was not the large diaphram
that I had envisioned I still think the closer you can get it to the
talking heads the better off you are going to be. You say this is not
a studio you are working out of so once you have enough gain to send
0vu to the podcast you'll be picking up air conditioning, floors
creaking, cars passing, dogs barking and so on...
I see where my previous choice of words was a bit misleading
regarding microphone diaphram types but the audio problems I'm
predicting will apply to any microphone used in the original poster's
scenario with the couch and coffee table set up.
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