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I know this has been covered and I've sorted though some old posts. I'm
moving and would like to use an upstairs room for some music playback
and home recording. Problem is, there is a neighbor's bedroom on the
other side of the wall. I'd like to be able to listen at low volumes
without bothering this person and receiving noise complaints.

I have the opportunity to treat the wall before I move in. Any new
thinking on sound barrier treatments for short money?

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On 5/9/05 2:48 PM, in article
1115664537.812123.281380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com,
"bluemt@earthlink.net" <bluemt@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I know this has been covered and I've sorted though some old posts. I'm
> moving and would like to use an upstairs room for some music playback
> and home recording. Problem is, there is a neighbor's bedroom on the
> other side of the wall. I'd like to be able to listen at low volumes
> without bothering this person and receiving noise complaints.
>
> I have the opportunity to treat the wall before I move in. Any new
> thinking on sound barrier treatments for short money?

Not that will work.

You need mass
Building a second wall could work.
It would include a layer of any of the lead-sheet substitute materials under
the new sheetrock
>

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On 9 May 2005 11:48:57 -0700, bluemt@earthlink.net wrote:

>I know this has been covered and I've sorted though some old posts. I'm
>moving and would like to use an upstairs room for some music playback
>and home recording. Problem is, there is a neighbor's bedroom on the
>other side of the wall. I'd like to be able to listen at low volumes
>without bothering this person and receiving noise complaints.
>
>I have the opportunity to treat the wall before I move in. Any new
>thinking on sound barrier treatments for short money?

Unless your neighbour likes your music, pick a different room for your
studio. You're on a no-hoper I'm afraid.

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With shared wall dwellings more and more common it would be nice if
someone invented something that would create a decent sound barrier.

Maybe something like 5/8" rubber 4' X 8's that could be placed behind
sheetrock.

An entrepreneur could recycle used tires through a heated vessel and
pour off sheets of soundproofing rubber, maybe other materials could be
added that would enhance absorbtion further.

There is a huge opportunity there somewhere. Phase cancelling
technology in conjunction with materials perhaps.

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On 5/10/05 5:19 AM, in article
1115716794.273725.200230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "meandeanmachine"
<deanbowlus@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> There is a huge opportunity there somewhere. Phase cancelling
> technology in conjunction with materials perhaps.
>

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http://ies2000atlanta.com/products1.htm

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bluemt@earthlink.net wrote:

> I know this has been covered and I've sorted though some old posts. I'm
> moving and would like to use an upstairs room for some music playback
> and home recording. Problem is, there is a neighbor's bedroom on the
> other side of the wall. I'd like to be able to listen at low volumes
> without bothering this person and receiving noise complaints.
>
> I have the opportunity to treat the wall before I move in. Any new
> thinking on sound barrier treatments for short money?

What level in dB do you intend listening at ?

What's the type of wall construction between your residence and your
neighbour's.

What time of day do you intend to do this ?

Without that info it's hard to comment.


Graham

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In article <1115716794.273725.200230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
meandeanmachine <deanbowlus@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>With shared wall dwellings more and more common it would be nice if
>someone invented something that would create a decent sound barrier.

Poured concrete has been around since the early years of the Roman
Empire. Detached, single-family dwellings are pretty affordable these
days too, in much of the US.
>
>Maybe something like 5/8" rubber 4' X 8's that could be placed behind
>sheetrock.

Do you believe rubber has enough mass density to be of any use in this
application? It will stop vibration noise to a certain extent (which
makes it a good choice for lining vehicle bodies), but will it absorb low
frequency sound waves?

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Pooh Bear wrote:
> bluemt@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> I know this has been covered and I've sorted though some old posts.
>> I'm moving and would like to use an upstairs room for some music
>> playback and home recording. Problem is, there is a neighbor's
>> bedroom on the other side of the wall. I'd like to be able to listen
>> at low volumes without bothering this person and receiving noise
>> complaints.
>>
>> I have the opportunity to treat the wall before I move in. Any new
>> thinking on sound barrier treatments for short money?
>
> What level in dB do you intend listening at ?
>
> What's the type of wall construction between your residence and your
> neighbour's.
>
> What time of day do you intend to do this ?
>
> Without that info it's hard to comment.
>
Not to mention: whether the room in question is in your condo, or the next
one. If the next condo, then there is by law 'some' extra construction in
the form of a fire wall. Most likely, it's at least a little more
dense--and thereby provides more isolation--than an ordinary room-to-room
wall within a particular dwelling.

jak

>
> Graham

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"jakdedert" wrote ...
> Not to mention: whether the room in question is in your condo, or the next
> one. If the next condo, then there is by law 'some' extra construction in
> the form of a fire wall. Most likely, it's at least a little more
> dense--and thereby provides more isolation--than an ordinary room-to-room
> wall within a particular dwelling.

In some places it is a foundation-to-roof cinder-block wall.
Mostly as a fire-break, but extra mass is also good for attenuating
sound transmission.

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On May 9, 2005, bluemt@earthlink.net <bluemt@earthlink.net> commented:

> I'd like to be able to listen at low volumes
> without bothering this person and receiving noise complaints.
>--------------------------------snip----------------------------------<

My opinion is that any solution that's going to be really effective is going
to cost at the very least several thousand dollars, plus it's going to be
semi-permanent construction that you wouldn't want to do in a building you
don't actually own yourself.

My advice is that you're probably better off listening with a good set of
headphones. Either that, or work out an arrangement with your neighbors to
only listen to speakers at times they aren't in the building.

--MFW

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Get a pait of car tires and site your speakers on the car tires. A lot
of times it's not the wall, but the low end vibrating the floor that
bothers the neighbors.

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Mike Caffrey wrote:
> Get a pait of car tires and site your speakers on the car tires.

Interesting. I've always put floor speakers on large-city phonebooks to
get some buffering from the floor...

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