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G'day people
Well, I've looked and looked and it's really hard to find opinions on
this product.

At the moment for me it's a choice between getting a M-Audio Audiphile
2496 pci card for my pc (I want to do recording, at most 2 tracks,
guitar, vocals... and need midi support) and the Edirol UA-25.

The m-audio audiophile wins out for price, waaaay cheaper and I am sure
it will do what I want. But the idea of an external box to plug into
sounds a lot less fiddly in the long run. What's holding me back in
buying it is
1. the Edirol USB interface is 1.1 right, not 2.0? Has anyone
experienced any latency problems?

2. Do the HiZ inputs and pre-amp and all that stuff on the Edirol
really make a big difference in quality in comparison to the m-audio
audiophile for the everyday musician?

As far as price goes, here in Australia I can get the m-audio card for
$220 approx and the Edirol for around $450. Is the Edirol really that
much better? I guess that's my main concern... getting more bang for m
buck. :)

Oh, my pc specs are abit nf-7s mobo (usb 2.0, soundstorm, all that), amd
2600xp+ cpu, 1gb corsair ddram, 120gb and 40gb seagate 7200rpm
harddrives, and soundblaster live to handle game and multimedia audio
(altho the joystick/midi port is stuffed hence the need for midi on the
new purchase whatever it may be).

Thanks for any and all help
-Leon-

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>At the moment for me it's a choice between getting a M-Audio Audiphile
>2496 pci card for my pc (I want to do recording, at most 2 tracks,
>guitar, vocals... and need midi support) and the Edirol UA-25.
>
>The m-audio audiophile wins out for price, waaaay cheaper and I am sure
>it will do what I want. But the idea of an external box to plug into
>sounds a lot less fiddly in the long run.

With the Audiophile you will also need an external mixer. It has
Line in/out only. The interface on the Edirol may be adequate for
your needs. A small mixer designed for multitrack recording will be
more flexible.

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In article <dns0815bfjd9bilogqm2fgoh1ouiupv369@4ax.com>,
lp@laurenceNOSPAMpayne.freeserve.co.uk says...
>
> >At the moment for me it's a choice between getting a M-Audio Audiphile
> >2496 pci card for my pc (I want to do recording, at most 2 tracks,
> >guitar, vocals... and need midi support) and the Edirol UA-25.
> >
> >The m-audio audiophile wins out for price, waaaay cheaper and I am sure
> >it will do what I want. But the idea of an external box to plug into
> >sounds a lot less fiddly in the long run.
>
> With the Audiophile you will also need an external mixer. It has
> Line in/out only. The interface on the Edirol may be adequate for
> your needs. A small mixer designed for multitrack recording will be
> more flexible.
>

I already have a cassette based Fostex 4 track that I bought a few years
ago. I was considering using that as the 'mixer' as it were with the
audiophile 2496. Think that'd work?

I just figured the Edirol UA-25 would be a more elegant solution.

-Leon-

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In article <MPG.1ceb2227f7540447989684@news.internode.on.net>,
lotness@lotnesslair.cjb.net (Leon Smith) wrote:

> I just figured the Edirol UA-25 would be a more elegant solution.

If it helps I've been using the older Edirol UA-5 since it came out and
have had few problems. Those problems I did have were with an older
machine with a dodgy VIA USB chipset (fixed by installing a USB card using
a Lucent QuadraBus chipset).

It is USB1.1, yes, but that's never been a problem for me. On my current
setup (Ath64 with an Asus m/b) it's set to 5ms and works perfectly.

A colleague has the UA-25 (bought because of my happy experiences with the
UA-5 and UM-2) and speaks highly of it.

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dmorton@well.com (David Morton) wrote in
news:memo.20050510113204.1540E@feynman.morton.org.uk:

> In article <MPG.1ceb2227f7540447989684@news.internode.on.net>,
> lotness@lotnesslair.cjb.net (Leon Smith) wrote:
>
>> I just figured the Edirol UA-25 would be a more elegant solution.
>
> If it helps I've been using the older Edirol UA-5 since it came out
> and have had few problems. Those problems I did have were with an
> older machine with a dodgy VIA USB chipset (fixed by installing a USB
> card using a Lucent QuadraBus chipset).
>
> It is USB1.1, yes, but that's never been a problem for me. On my
> current setup (Ath64 with an Asus m/b) it's set to 5ms and works
> perfectly.
>
> A colleague has the UA-25 (bought because of my happy experiences with
> the UA-5 and UM-2) and speaks highly of it.

About this latency thing. I am not quite sure I understand it. I know
it has to do with the response between say, me playing and the computer
recording, but when does it become a problem. You said 5ms is fine...
what amount is a problem?

I plan to be using my keyboard to setup backing tracks using samples
(which I understand is what virtual instruments basically are?) so is
that where the latency is really going to effect my recordings?

I hate being so new to all this. I have some experience with recording,
but not the technical side of it. I'm usually just the musician :) The
most experience I have had with recording has been my fostex 4-track,
which is just simple as all heck.

Out of interest, do pci cards tend to have less of a latency issue than
external usb solutions?

Anyway, thanks and sorry for all the questions. Just want to start out
with as good a gear as I can :)

-Leon-

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>About this latency thing. I am not quite sure I understand it. I
know
>it has to do with the response between say, me playing and the
computer
>recording, but when does it become a problem. You said 5ms is fine...

>what amount is a problem?

5ms is about the time it takes sound to travel 5 feet in air

Mark

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Laurence Payne wrote:

> >At the moment for me it's a choice between getting a M-Audio Audiphile
> >2496 pci card for my pc (I want to do recording, at most 2 tracks,
> >guitar, vocals... and need midi support) and the Edirol UA-25.

> >The m-audio audiophile wins out for price, waaaay cheaper and I am sure
> >it will do what I want. But the idea of an external box to plug into
> >sounds a lot less fiddly in the long run.

> With the Audiophile you will also need an external mixer. It has
> Line in/out only. The interface on the Edirol may be adequate for
> your needs. A small mixer designed for multitrack recording will be
> more flexible.

The Edirol sounds okay, nothing particularly offensive about it. Manual
is straightforward and sufficient, drivers (this was for a Mac AluBook)
worked as advertised, setup was easy for a newbie music teacher.

--
ha

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