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I shoot a lot of weddings and I am looking for an HD or maybe even
memory-based recorder.

When I google "hard disc recorders" all I get are DVR's and that's not what
I want.

Thanks for the help.

Tom P.

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Henry Padilla <padillah@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I shoot a lot of weddings and I am looking for an HD or maybe even
>memory-based recorder.
>
>When I google "hard disc recorders" all I get are DVR's and that's not what
>I want.

What's your budget? Do you need timecode? Are you going to have a sound
op or instead will you need multiple channels?
--scott


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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Henry Padilla <padillah@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>I shoot a lot of weddings and I am looking for an HD or maybe even
>>memory-based recorder.
>>
>>When I google "hard disc recorders" all I get are DVR's and that's not
>>what
>>I want.
>
> What's your budget? Do you need timecode? Are you going to have a sound
> op or instead will you need multiple channels?
> --scott

Right, sorry.

Budget - under $500 (don't laugh, I'm poor) but this may be flexible.

Timecode - Yes, unless it puts me over-budget

Channels - I'll be doing run-and-gun by myself so I'd like 4-8 independent
tracks.

Is this just a pipedream?
Tom P.

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Henry Padilla wrote:
> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d5t8kt$j12$1@panix2.panix.com...
>
>> What's your budget? Do you need timecode? Are you going to have a sound
>> op or instead will you need multiple channels?
>
>
> Budget - under $500 (don't laugh, I'm poor) but this may be flexible.

Not laughing, but there's not much available right now in that
pricerange. Look for used or refurb Creative Nomad Jukebox 3.


> Timecode - Yes, unless it puts me over-budget

Fuhggedaboutit unless you're ready to spend at least $2k (which still
won't get you a hard disk but would get you a Fostex FR-2 with the new
TC card.)



> Channels - I'll be doing run-and-gun by myself so I'd like 4-8 independent
> tracks.
>
> Is this just a pipedream?

At this price, yes. 4 channels with TC that you can carry over the
shoulder is currently $4k from Sound Devices (hey, it was $10k until
just a few months ago.)

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Henry Padilla wrote:
>
> Channels - I'll be doing run-and-gun by myself so I'd like 4-8 independent
> tracks.


Edirol R-4 will give you four channels with a hard drive for ~$1500.

No timecode.

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"Henry Padilla" <padillah@hotmail.com> writes:

> I shoot a lot of weddings and I am looking for an HD or maybe even
> memory-based recorder.
>
> When I google "hard disc recorders" all I get are DVR's and that's not what
> I want.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Tom P.

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In article <yppge.875$Lu6.507@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,
"Henry Padilla" <padillah@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I shoot a lot of weddings and I am looking for an HD or maybe even
> memory-based recorder.
>
> When I google "hard disc recorders" all I get are DVR's and that's not what
> I want.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Tom P.

Have a look at a Marantz PMD-680.

HTH

Marc

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In article <oKpge.879$Lu6.7@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> padillah@hotmail.com writes:

> Budget - under $500
> Timecode - Yes, unless it puts me over-budget
> Channels - I'll be doing run-and-gun by myself so I'd like 4-8 independent
> tracks.
>
> Is this just a pipedream?

Yes.

Edirol is just starting to ship their R4, which is about as
inexpensive a 4-track portable recorder with real mic inputs as
you'll find. No time code, in the $1500 range, +/- a couple hundred
bucks.

If you're shooting digital video, you'll find that its time reference
and the time reference of a digital audio recorder are close enough so
that they'll sync up well enough for most projects without time code.




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Just curious about how most people go about generatign and sending
timecode to the camera from a non-DAT recorder without timecode
built-in. For example, something like a few mics connected to a some
preamps and a firewire connection to a laptop, recorded multitrack on
disk, with a scratch mix sent to one channel of the camera. I realize
you can synch visually with the waveforms, but I'm interested in
something with proper timecode. Is there a cheap LTC generator or
something you can pipe into one of the record tracks and one of the
camera tracks?

Thanks!

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Henry Padilla wrote:
> I shoot a lot of weddings and I am looking for an HD or maybe even
> memory-based recorder.
>
> When I google "hard disc recorders" all I get are DVR's and that's
not what
> I want.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Tom P.

Pick up a used Akai DR8 on ebay(stay away from the DR4 if possible).
These sound great, are easy to use to track and edit and are overlooked
by many because they weren't that well known. The only drawback is it's
a 4 rack space unit and weighs about 25 pounds. They usually sell
anywhere from $250-$500. If you need more tracks, pick up a DR16. These
things are workhorses for sure.

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stephenbuck <stephenbuck@mac.com> wrote:
>Just curious about how most people go about generatign and sending
>timecode to the camera from a non-DAT recorder without timecode
>built-in.

They don't. They use a slate and pray.
--scott

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"stephenbuck"wrote ...
> Just curious about how most people go about generatign and sending
> timecode to the camera from a non-DAT recorder without timecode
> built-in. For example, something like a few mics connected to a some
> preamps and a firewire connection to a laptop, recorded multitrack on
> disk, with a scratch mix sent to one channel of the camera. I realize
> you can synch visually with the waveforms, but I'm interested in
> something with proper timecode. Is there a cheap LTC generator or
> something you can pipe into one of the record tracks and one of the
> camera tracks?

Even if there were, is there any software that would know what to do
with it? There have been some very recent discussions in r.a.m.p.s
on that very topic.

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stephenbuck wrote:

> Just curious about how most people go about generatign and sending
> timecode to the camera from a non-DAT recorder without timecode
> built-in. For example, something like a few mics connected to a some
> preamps and a firewire connection to a laptop, recorded multitrack on
> disk, with a scratch mix sent to one channel of the camera. I realize
> you can synch visually with the waveforms, but I'm interested in
> something with proper timecode. Is there a cheap LTC generator or
> something you can pipe into one of the record tracks and one of the
> camera tracks?
>
> Thanks!
>

They or you? If you can lay hands on a Fostex VF-160 and a
JLCooper PPS2, you can track SMPTE* on the audio of the camera,
then have the Fostex chase it on playback. You'd need to
manually start the recorder about the same time the camera
starts. Might require three hands...

*I'm not 100% sure it's SMPTE - might just be
an FSK representation of MTC. But it works.

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"stephenbuck" <stephenbuck@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Just curious about how most people go about generatign and sending
> timecode to the camera from a non-DAT recorder without timecode
> built-in. For example, something like a few mics connected to a some
> preamps and a firewire connection to a laptop, recorded multitrack on
> disk, with a scratch mix sent to one channel of the camera. I realize
> you can synch visually with the waveforms, but I'm interested in
> something with proper timecode. Is there a cheap LTC generator or
> something you can pipe into one of the record tracks and one of the
> camera tracks?
>
> Thanks!

99% of all prosumer cameras can't jam a TC (I think 100% but I don't want to
mis-speak). 90% of all prosumer cameras don't have a TC out so you can't
jam a deck to them.

My point being why would I want to send TC to a camera that can't sync to it
anyway?
The camera is either digital and has a TC or it's analog and it never will.

Tom P.

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Henry Padilla <padillah@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>99% of all prosumer cameras can't jam a TC (I think 100% but I don't want to
>mis-speak). 90% of all prosumer cameras don't have a TC out so you can't
>jam a deck to them.
>
>My point being why would I want to send TC to a camera that can't sync to it
>anyway?
>The camera is either digital and has a TC or it's analog and it never will.

No, there are a lot of higher grade analogue camcorders that do timecode.
Otherwise multi-camera concert shoots would be a _nightmare_ to edit after
the fact.

Hell, lots of film cameras have timecode...
--scott

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By the way, the Akai machine does follow timecode, among other things.

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Henry Padilla wrote:
> Budget - under $500 (don't laugh, I'm poor) but this may be flexible.
> Channels - I'll be doing run-and-gun by myself so I'd like 4-8 independent
> tracks.

If you already have a PC you can spare, spending the money on a-to-d
hardware and multitrack recorder software may be the best solution
you'll find. Portability suffers, obviously, compared to a dedicated unit...

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