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I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great musicians
and also audio recording and production. I'm waiting on a DVD copy of
"In the Shadows of Motown" and I'm also planning on buying the Tom Dowd
film on DVD. My roommate had Pink Floyd's Live At Pompeii" and that's
really cool. If you have a suggestion for something similar that is
currently available I would love to know about it. Thanks everyone.
-Paul

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Must see the unbelievable documentary on Leo Theremin. Also, Dexter
Gordon is amazing in " 'Round Midnight", a fictional story about an
American jazz musician in Paris.

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It's a chore to watch, but I recommend (really...) sitting down and watching
the entire documentary/art/political piece on The Stones and Sympathy For
The Devil (sorry, don;t recall the actual title, French director?) the sheer
tedium of following the time spent studio-ing-out the drawn-out process of
finding the song is (in its jaw-dropping inefficiency) remarkable.


On 5/13/05 1:26 AM, in article
1115961964.918200.43610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com,
"TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com"
<TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great musicians
> and also audio recording and production. I'm waiting on a DVD copy of
> "In the Shadows of Motown" and I'm also planning on buying the Tom Dowd
> film on DVD. My roommate had Pink Floyd's Live At Pompeii" and that's
> really cool. If you have a suggestion for something similar that is
> currently available I would love to know about it. Thanks everyone.
> -Paul
>

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In article <BEAA27F6.7C7F%ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com>,
SSJVCmag <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com> wrote:

> It's a chore to watch, but I recommend (really...) sitting down and watching
> the entire documentary/art/political piece on The Stones and Sympathy For
> The Devil (sorry, don;t recall the actual title, French director?) the sheer
> tedium of following the time spent studio-ing-out the drawn-out process of
> finding the song is (in its jaw-dropping inefficiency) remarkable.
>
>

And read the Stones biography by Bill Wyman to see this extended to the entire
Stones career. It's amazing they recorded as many albums as they did.

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"SSJVCmag" <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com> wrote in message
news:BEAA27F6.7C7F%ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com...
> It's a chore to watch, but I recommend (really...) sitting down and
watching
> the entire documentary/art/political piece on The Stones and Sympathy For
> The Devil (sorry, don;t recall the actual title, French director?) the
sheer
> tedium of following the time spent studio-ing-out the drawn-out process of
> finding the song is (in its jaw-dropping inefficiency) remarkable.

At least in the USA, it's called "Sympathy for the Devil". I second the
recommendation; IMHO the political parts of the flick are stupid and
manipulative, very Cahiers du Cinema cafe-Marxist, but the studio scenes are
dynamite.

It's also worth seeing "Let It Be"; not the Beatles' best work by any means,
and they're falling apart personally, but it's still an important document.

For a film that evokes the feel of the late sixties music scene better than
anything I've run across, check out "Festival Express". No studio in that,
but some live-performance and offstage bits that really bring back the
zeitgeist.

Peace,
Paul

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Paul Stamler wrote:
>
> For a film that evokes the feel of the late sixties music scene better than
> anything I've run across, check out "Festival Express". No studio in that,
> but some live-performance and offstage bits that really bring back the
> zeitgeist.

I'll look for it, thanks.

One more plug for "Monterey Pop," recently reissued on DVD with some
tasty extras.

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"Greg Wells" <geedoubleyou@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Must see the unbelievable documentary on Leo Theremin.

That was fascinating and literally gave me nightmares. The first time I
watched it I was really sleepy and drifting in and out of that half-sleep
state. I have never had such vivid and frightening (truly frightening)
nightmares, ever.

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On Fri, 13 May 2005 13:46:31 GMT, SSJVCmag <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com>
wrote:

>It's a chore to watch, but I recommend (really...) sitting down and watching
>the entire documentary/art/political piece on The Stones and Sympathy For
>The Devil (sorry, don;t recall the actual title, French director?) the sheer
>tedium of following the time spent studio-ing-out the drawn-out process of
>finding the song is (in its jaw-dropping inefficiency) remarkable.

I'm the world's biggest Godard fan, even a bigger fan than Tarantino
or Wong Kar-wai or Hal Hartley, who all make modern Godard movies.

But... I still can't finish _Sympathy for the Devil_.
Maybe I need to start fresh, given your (guarded) recommendation.

Thanks,

Chris Hornbeck

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'One Trick Pony' by Paul Simon is one of my favorites. Lou Reed as the
hired gun producer is great.

'Hype' is another good one that talks about the effect that the
Seattle scene's explosion had on the music that was being made there.
Careful what you wish for....

dave

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In article <1115961964.918200.43610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com says...
> I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great musicians
> and also audio recording and production.

There is a great blues documentary called "Bluesland" with taped
performances by all the greats, from Leadbelly to Louie Armstrong, and
everyone in between. If you can put up with Keith David's Broadway-
sized ego and STAAAAAAGGGGE PRESENCE as he narrates (and a really weird
smoking jacket), get it.

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I was always fond of Paul Simon's One Trick Pony. It is a fictional
storey, but seems more than slightly autobiographical. The biggest
difference from reality is the exclusion of Art Garfunkel.

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TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com wrote:
> I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great
musicians
> and also audio recording and production. I'm waiting on a DVD copy of
> "In the Shadows of Motown" and I'm also planning on buying the Tom
Dowd
> film on DVD. My roommate had Pink Floyd's Live At Pompeii" and that's
> really cool. If you have a suggestion for something similar that is
> currently available I would love to know about it. Thanks everyone.
> -Paul

"Hail Hail Rock and Roll", about Chuck Berry. It originally hit the
theaters in the late 80's. There's also a Tom Waits concert/fantasy
film that came out around that time. It was quite good. I can't recall
the name, but I think it was something like "Big Time" or "Big Night".


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There's an episode of "Dinosaurs" (the TV series) that satirizes the record
industry's co-opting ethnic music, then watering it down for white middle-class
audiences. It was called "Swamp Music" and aired February 26, 1993.

Little of this series has been issued on home video, even though there are a
couple of classic episodes (such as "When Food Goes Bad" ) that ought to have
some "permanent" representation.

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Oh, yes. "Amadeus"

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TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com wrote:

> I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great musicians
> and also audio recording and production. I'm waiting on a DVD copy of
> "In the Shadows of Motown" and I'm also planning on buying the Tom Dowd
> film on DVD. My roommate had Pink Floyd's Live At Pompeii" and that's
> really cool. If you have a suggestion for something similar that is
> currently available I would love to know about it. Thanks everyone.
> -Paul
>

Do an Amazon search for "Classic Albums". I've seen three
of 'em, and those three (Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd and
Steely Dan) are great.

There's the Led Zeppelin DVD...

Somebody already mentioned "Theremin - An Electronic Odyssey
(1995) ". You have to see this at least once.

For a weird one, "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart", about
Wilco.

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TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com wrote:
> I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great
> musicians and also audio recording and production. I'm waiting on a
> DVD copy of "In the Shadows of Motown" and I'm also planning on
> buying the Tom Dowd film on DVD. My roommate had Pink Floyd's Live At
> Pompeii" and that's really cool. If you have a suggestion for
> something similar that is currently available I would love to know
> about it. Thanks everyone. -Paul
>

For a movie that captures the sights, the sounds, and the smells of a
hard working rock band on the road, try "This Is Spinal Tap".

/martin.

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TheBenevolentUniversePremise@gmail.com wrote:
> I'd like some suggestions for films/documentaries about great musicians

There are lots of those, I think.

> and also audio recording and production.

That is more difficult.

24 Hour Party People is a great film about the history of the Factory
Label and its bands Joy Division/New Order, Happy Mondays, etc..

One of the major characters is Martin Hannet (producer, sound engineer),
whom, near the beginning of the film is presented by Tony Wilson as
"the only bona-fide genius in this story".

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000DK4RL/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000063W1O/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007BK2N/

Someone else already mentioned the Classic Albums series.

I intend to buy the one about Nirvana - Nevermind. I saw part of it on
a promotional program on TV and it seemed interesting.

Classic Albums - Nirvana - Nevermind
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002W0ZCE/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007OP1HG/

Searching for "Classic Albums" in Amazon will find others DVDs on the
same series although not all of them. In particular in amazon.co.uk it
failed to match "The Dark Side Of The Moon" which is the other obvious
choice.

Pink Floyd - The Making of The Dark Side Of The Moon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009QNXX/
Classic Albums - Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of Moon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ [...] 0000AOV85/

Speaking of Pink Floyd, recently I bought this DVD:

The Pink Floyd And Syd Barrett Story
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008AWTB/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ [...] 00067W1K4/

and I found it quite interesting.

One I watched some time ago (so my memory is not very fresh)
and I think I found interesting was:

The Clash - Westway To The World
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005RD92/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000063UQN/


Some other great films about musicians:

Almost Famous is a "autobiographical fiction" about a kid (~15 years old)
who gets an assignement from Rolling Stone magazine to cover a tour of
a rock band. Note that there is an extended version.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005KFU0/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005OM4Q/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00003CXMG/

Another nice film (although fiction) is:
The Commitments
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004TBT0/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000767QYA/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00018D3XW/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ [...] 305622922/

And another one which is not about musicians, but it appeared
when I was searching for the others and since is such a great
film:

High Fidelity
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000055Z8M/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ [...] 00003CXGA/

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I haven't seen it yet - but have heard really great things about the
film "Stranger: Bernie Worrell on Earth" which documents the life and
career of legendary P-Funk and Talking Heads keyboardist Bernie
Worrell. Great interviews, concert footage, etc. More info at
www.strangermovie.com.

If anyone has already seen it - what's your take on it? As a Bernie fan
myself, I'm waiting for the film to make its way to my town...

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 11:50:31 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?=
<nospam@slowland.com> wrote:

>For a movie that captures the sights, the sounds, and the smells of a
>hard working rock band on the road, try "This Is Spinal Tap".
>

There is a made for TV film from Showtime, available on VCR called
"Lush Life", which is the closest thing there is to Spinal Tap for
jazz. It stars Forrest Whitaker and Jeff Goldblum, and is presented as
a drama, which if you take it for that, is pretty mediocre. If you see
it as Spinal Tap it is a gas. It is so subtly done, I did not realize
it until after the movie was over. Music by Lennie Neihaus.

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 15:15:44 +0100 (WEST), Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro
<rps@koala.mat.uc.pt> wrote:

>Another nice film (although fiction) is:
>The Commitments

>And another one which is not about musicians, but it appeared
>when I was searching for the others and since is such a great
>film:
>
>High Fidelity

Then you'll also like _Almost Famous_.

And for a taste of the Dark Side, _Let's Get Lost_. Very
bleak bio of Chet Baker; only for the strong.

Chris Hornbeck
"Hound dog, poontang, tree frog, you're right." -FS

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Paul Stamler wrote:

> For a film that evokes the feel of the late sixties music scene better than
> anything I've run across, check out "Festival Express". No studio in that,
> but some live-performance and offstage bits that really bring back the
> zeitgeist.

And in that film we get a glimpse of the sorryass "I want the music
free, man..." attitude that now surrounds us, as middle and upper class
white kids incite violence over the reality that they'll have to pay to
get into a show. Cranial sickness.

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Am I really the first to propose "Last Waltz", Martin Scorcese's homage
to the The Band's "last" concert in San Francisco, featuring an array of
influential guests, including Eric Clapton, Van Morrison and Bob Dylan.

"Don't Look Back", on Bob Dylan is rivetting, because of it's subject.
It includes the infamous exchange with the British journalist which
inspired "Ballad of a Thin Man" -- there's something happening here, but
you don't know what it is....

"Backbeat" is an excellent film about the early Beatles' years in
Hamburg, with Stu Sutcliffe. Smartly stays small and focussed.

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" is lightweight but entertaining, also about
the early Beatles years, but from the point of view of some die-hard fans.

"Woodstock", of course.

Just for fun, I've always felt "A Star is Born" with Streisand and
Kristoferson to be about the worst film about music I've ever seen. I
always felt betrayed, when I was younger, when a movie was advertised as
being about rock music, and would almost always turn out to be about
mainstream popular music instead. The musical performances were always
incredibly poorly done. The "lead guitarist" would imitate a lead
guitarist faking that look of utter ecstatic absorbtion. It's like
actors trying do a drunk by falling all over the place, when, in fact, a
real drunk is trying very hard to stand straight.

StudioDude wrote:
> I haven't seen it yet - but have heard really great things about the
> film "Stranger: Bernie Worrell on Earth" which documents the life and
> career of legendary P-Funk and Talking Heads keyboardist Bernie
> Worrell. Great interviews, concert footage, etc. More info at
> www.strangermovie.com.
>
> If anyone has already seen it - what's your take on it? As a Bernie fan
> myself, I'm waiting for the film to make its way to my town...
>

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The Wilco movie is good. I really like "Dig!" as well, which is the
story of the friendship/rivalry between the Brian Jonestown Massacre
and the Dandy Warhols as their respective careers take very different
paths.

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Tough one because if they were musical they're be music but here goes.
How about "Round Midnight". Or "Festival Express" and not just because
I knew almost every one in it. Or "Spinal Tap". Not a fan of "The
Wall" or "Tommy" but they belong on the list. Certainly "Don't Look
Back" and "The Last Waltz". And the Neil Young movies. I seem to
remember something called "The Fabulous Stains" that was fun. And 'The
Rocky Horror Picture Show." And there are moments in "One Trick Pony"
that ring absolutely true. The Tom Dowd movie is great. And "Fillmore"
if only for the great shouting match between Graham and Mike Wilhelm of
The Charlatans. Sorry, mind shuting dowm now.
Phil Brown

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Having done classical music (performance, audio, and then video)
virtually since I was in high school, it was very easy for my "friends"
to convince me that "This is Spinal Tap" was a real documentary.
The only rock bands I had ever dealt with were so much like the
movie that I didn't question it for a moment.

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As a follow up I wanted to thank everyone that contributed good
suggestions to my original question. I went looking for the "classic
album" series of DVD's at a local record store and looked at several of
them. I bought the "Who's Next" and "Ace of Spades" DVD's from that
series and they're both very enjoyable. I'm still waiting on delivery
of a copy of "Tom Dowd and the Language of Music" and this weekend I'll
be watching "Standing I The Shadows Of Motown". I'm also waiting on a
DVD documentary about Sun Records called "Good Rockin' Tonight". I
picked it up very cheap on eBay but have not seen it before. I'll
definitely be tracking down more of the films and documentaries
mentioned previously in this thread. Thanks again for all of the good
ideas. :-) -Paul

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