Can today's laptop support vista with DX 10?

[giper54]

I plan on buying a HP laptop once the dual turion X2 comes out in may. Right now their video cards are the 128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM). This could all change by the time the new lap tops come out, but if they still have this video card, will I have trouble running full Windows Vista with all of the bells and whistles?

 

[lunyone]

From what I have read, I don't think the ATI 200 integrated video should have "Vista" problems. I have read several places that the integrated video is already compatible with "Vista", but I haven't read that it is "Fully" able to run it, so I'm not 100% sure. I would bet $ that the X2 related laptop will be compatible. I hope this helps you out?

 

[techiemonkey]

The graphics card will not be DX10 compatible so will not run the AERO Glass feature of Windows Vista so you will be stuck with vista looking like windows xp rather than the "fluffy" new interface

 

[bobit]

The graphics card will not be DX10 compatible so will not run the AERO Glass feature of Windows Vista so you will be stuck with vista looking like windows xp rather than the "fluffy" new interface

Correct me if I’m wrong: doesn’t vista beta work on current video cards? I know it does, so the aero desktop supports Dx9 as well.

 

[exxonvaldez]

Yes, but what about the performance? There is probably a very good reason why its still in beta stage

 

[HardWareBoss]

Will you be doing alot of gaming with your laptop?

 

[bobit]

I’m not a fanatic gamer, but I have tried on my laptop (1.66GHz dual core, 1GB RAM, nVidia Go 7400) a few racing games like CMR 2005 (medium quality settings). It played ok, so I recommend getting something like a dual core or 2+GHz processor and 1 GB of memory.

 

[HardWareBoss]

Intergraded ore ok. But if you do a lot of gaming you need a better vid card.

 

[ronin_cse]

The graphics card will not be DX10 compatible so will not run the AERO Glass feature of Windows Vista so you will be stuck with vista looking like windows xp rather than the "fluffy" new interface

ummm, well I'm sure you're right about the graphics card not supporting DX10, aero glass does not need a DX10 compatiable card, it just needs a fairly good card.[/quote]

 

[killernotebooks]

I read an article in PC Magazine where only 10% of all the computers out there are going to be able to run Windows Vista Aero... cut that number dramatically for the 64 bit version.

KillerNotebooks ELIMINATOR with x1600 256 MB will run the DX10 and Aero 32&64 bit no problem.

 

[falloutman]

just outa curiosity, but how do you know that the ati card will be dx10 compatable?

 

[killernotebooks]

I have Vista running on an Eliminator right now.

 

[Spikke]

The video cards now will be able to run DX10 stuff, but not with it's new features. There are no DX10 cards out yet, so if you want full DX10 support you will need to wait for Nvidia and ATI to release them, which I would assume will be around the launch of Vista itself.

 

[gpfear]

I think they might offer better video for the turion X2s.

 

[killernotebooks]

But after all this being said in this thread, let's keep in mind that Vista only need DX9.

 

[falloutman]

no, it needs DX10, but DX9 cards will only be able to use certain faetures of DX10.

 

[killernotebooks]

VISTA needs DX9. Here is the link to Microsoft's Vista Requirements site

Windows Vista Capable and Premium Ready footnotes
Windows Aero requires:
DirectX 9 class graphics processor that:
Supports a WDDM Driver.
Supports Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware.
Supports 32 bits per pixel.
Adequate graphics memory.
64 MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor less than 1,310,720 pixels
128 MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor at resolutions from 1,310,720 to 2,304,000 pixels
256 MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor at resolutions higher than 2,304,000 pixels
Meets graphics memory bandwidth requirements, as assessed by Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor running on Windows XP
A DVD-ROM may be external (not integral, not built into the system)..

 

[falloutman]

my bad...

 

[killernotebooks]

Well these companies make it so complicated with their big talk before product launch, then the delays hit (along with reality), the product gets downgraded to actually work and you have an entirely different beast.

So it is easy to get confused.

 

[HardWareBoss]

You building any Turion X2s?

 

[killernotebooks]

I definately am. The 12.1" model should be out this week with more to come.

 

[HardWareBoss]

Have you seen anything on a new Dual-Core. Besides the X2. Like the new Memron or whatever the new Dual-Core laptop Intel is releaseing?

 

[killernotebooks]

Just that Intel is ahead by like 2 months and set to release it mid-summer.

Finally some competition so AMD can pump up their product line and we can benefit.