24 Channel PC ADAT I/O low$$ high quality?

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Given that the *obvious* way to get 32 channels of ADAT I/O
in and out of a computer is the $500 Frontier Dakota/Montana
combo, what's the low$$$ high quality alternative?

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"Steve" <sryannospam@tendb.com> wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

>> Given that the *obvious* way to get 32 channels of ADAT
I/O
>> in and out of a computer is the $500 Frontier
Dakota/Montana
>> combo, what's the low$$$ high quality alternative?

> Arnie.. Isn't the Dakota only 16 channel? You'd need two.



Montana is the name of the 16 channel add-on card for the
Dakota.

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"John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> > Given that the *obvious* way to get 32 channels of ADAT
I/O
> > in and out of a computer is the $500 Frontier
Dakota/Montana
> > combo, what's the low$$$ high quality alternative?

> Are you asking for a solution that is less expensive than
$500 but better
> quality or the cheapest solution over $500?

Yes

> Also, with just
> moving digital data around it seems like the only quality
concerns would be
> construction and software/drivers. Or are you thinking of
something else?

Just because moving digital data is conceptually simple,
doesn't mean that someone can't do it righter or cheaper
than someone else.

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> > "John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote in message
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> >> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> >> > Given that the *obvious* way to get 32 channels of
ADAT I/O
> >> > in and out of a computer is the $500 Frontier
Dakota/Montana
> >> > combo, what's the low$$$ high quality alternative?

> >> Are you asking for a solution that is less expensive
than $00 but better
> >> quality or the cheapest solution over $500?

> > Yes

> Cheaper and possibly better, possible worse but probably
about the same :
> 1 used MOTU 2408 MkI core system and one used 2408 MkI
expander. 48 channels
> ADAT I/O. Total cost somewhere between $200 to $400 (
depending on how good
> a deal you score ). I'm selling mine on Ebay right now as
a matter of fact.


OK, if I get this right, the 2408 Mk1 or Mk2 which are
composed of a rack mounted interface and a 324 PCI card, or
a 2408 Mk3 which is composed of a rack mounted interface and
a 424 card, all support 24 channels of ADAT I/O.

2408 Mk1 and Mk2 systems seem to be going for $150-300 on
eBay. This seems like a viable alternative.

Anybody know how they work with Audition for recording?

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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>> >> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>> >> > Given that the *obvious* way to get 32 channels of
> ADAT I/O
>> >> > in and out of a computer is the $500 Frontier
> Dakota/Montana
>> >> > combo, what's the low$$$ high quality alternative?
>
>> >> Are you asking for a solution that is less expensive
> than $00 but better
>> >> quality or the cheapest solution over $500?
>
>> > Yes
>
>> Cheaper and possibly better, possible worse but probably
> about the same :
>> 1 used MOTU 2408 MkI core system and one used 2408 MkI
> expander. 48 channels
>> ADAT I/O. Total cost somewhere between $200 to $400 (
> depending on how good
>> a deal you score ). I'm selling mine on Ebay right now as
> a matter of fact.
>
>
> OK, if I get this right, the 2408 Mk1 or Mk2 which are
> composed of a rack mounted interface and a 324 PCI card, or
> a 2408 Mk3 which is composed of a rack mounted interface and
> a 424 card, all support 24 channels of ADAT I/O.
>
> 2408 Mk1 and Mk2 systems seem to be going for $150-300 on
> eBay. This seems like a viable alternative.


Right.

FYIs :

Up to 3 rack mount MOTU interfaces can plug into a single PCI-324 card.

The older 2408 MkI and MkII, 308, 24i and 1296 will work with the older
PCI-324 card AND the current PCI-424 card. The newer interfaces, 2408
MkIII, 24I/O and HD192 will only work with the newer PCI-424 card.

A 'core' system includes the rack mount interface and the PCI card. An
'expander' only includes the rack mount interface. ( so get one core unit
and one expander ).

The older units usually only handle 44.1 and 48 kHz sample rates. ( no 32k
no 96 etc )

If you want to do a little A/D D/A with the 2408 too, the MkI only has 20
bit converters on unbalanced RCA jacks. The MkII has 24 bit on balanced
TRS.




> Anybody know how they work with Audition for recording?
>

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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> Given that the *obvious* way to get 32 channels of ADAT I/O
> in and out of a computer is the $500 Frontier Dakota/Montana
> combo, what's the low$$$ high quality alternative?
>

I think that the Frontier stuff is the alternative to the $600 RME
hammerfall. 'Last year's' version of the RME card should be relatively cheap
on ebay.

jb