I was wondering if anyone knew of some recording studios in St. Louis.
I have found a couple searching the internet, but I was hoping you guys
may know of some more. The reason I am asking is because I am hoping
to try to get an iternship.
"Mike" <MikeN83@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of some recording studios in St. Louis.
> I have found a couple searching the internet, but I was hoping you guys
> may know of some more. The reason I am asking is because I am hoping
> to try to get an iternship.
>
You know, the ability to use both a phone book and the local alternative
music paper (or whatever serves in that capacity in St. Louis) would likely
yield not only a larger list of St. Louis area studios, but just might make
some local studio owner think that you have enough intelligence to someday
be allowed into a control room. The fact that you chose this (international)
newsgroup when looking for local studios does not really make me want to
recommend you to those engineers I know who work in the area...
Wow, you are just a dick. Sorry, I just assumed a group such as this
would be a good place to ask about a topic like this. Who knows, there
may be some engineers in the St. Louis area who would be willing to
help out someone trying to get into the business, with out curt remarks.
"Mike" <MikeN83@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Wow, you are just a dick. Sorry, I just assumed a group such as this
> would be a good place to ask about a topic like this. Who knows, there
> may be some engineers in the St. Louis area who would be willing to
> help out someone trying to get into the business, with out curt remarks.
>
Who know, indeed? The fact that you can't (or won't) do a little legwork to
find out where your possible internship could take place doesn't really bode
well for a long and fruitful career where being self-motivated is essential.
Ah, well.
On your present course (and with your present attitude), I'd suggest that
you practice the one phrase that may someday make you a living. Ready?
Repeat after me - "Would you like fries with that?"
Dave Martin <dmainc@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Mike" <MikeN83@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> Wow, you are just a dick. Sorry, I just assumed a group such as this
>> would be a good place to ask about a topic like this. Who knows, there
>> may be some engineers in the St. Louis area who would be willing to
>> help out someone trying to get into the business, with out curt remarks.
>>
>Who know, indeed? The fact that you can't (or won't) do a little legwork to
>find out where your possible internship could take place doesn't really bode
>well for a long and fruitful career where being self-motivated is essential.
>Ah, well.
And the original poster should realize that we are all basically swamped
with people asking for internships. I've had two of them today already. I
wish I got half as many calls from people looking to book studio time as I
get from kids wanting to work.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
In most careers it is considered a positive thing to ask for
advice/information from others who are working in the given career. I
didnt realize that in audio engineering it leads a poor attitude and a
fast-food job. I shan't trouble you for any for advice/information.
In most careers it is considered a positive thing to ask for
advice/information from others who are working in the given career. I
didnt realize that in audio engineering it leads a poor attitude and a
fast-food job. I shan't trouble you for anymorer advice/information.
In most careers it is considered a positive thing to ask for
advice/information from others who are working in the given career. I
didnt realize that in audio engineering it leads a poor attitude and a
fast-food job. I shan't trouble you for anymore advice/information.
> Wow, you are just a dick. Sorry, I just assumed a group such as this
> would be a good place to ask about a topic like this. Who knows, there
> may be some engineers in the St. Louis area who would be willing to
> help out someone trying to get into the business, with out curt remarks.
Maybe before you shoot your mouth off anymore and take at least one foot
with it, you should go check out Dave's little studio, Java Jive, and
then open your mind to the fact that he mentioned knowing engineers and
studios in St. Louis.
Next, consider that he gave you some healthy info, even if your precious
ego is a little bruised by a suggestion that a phone book and some
direct research in St. Louis could make more sense than posting to the
world about wanting an internship.
Further, consider what the pros in St. Louis who know Dave might think
of your response to a fellow professional who has taken the time to
point out something you're doing that is not in your own best interest
if seeking an internship. Do you have idea _one_ how many people are
seeking internships versus how few such positions are available?
Lastly, you don't suppose any of those folks Dave knows might have
Internet access, do you? So far your chances of having them write you
off are pretty good.
In article <1116891439.458151.19600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> MikeN83@gmail.com writes:
> In most careers it is considered a positive thing to ask for
> advice/information from others who are working in the given career.
It is, in general. However, working in a studio isn't a career for
most of the participants here. We're mostly all independents who
realize that there really aren't any jobs to be had in studios. It
hasn't quite got to the point of "pay to play" yet, but intern
positions are pretty rare, and alnost always in large studios in major
cities where there's full time business in several rooms, and a lot of
utility work to do.
If you really want to intern in a studio, you should be looking in New
York or Los Angels, not St. Louis. And, yes, you should be prepared to
move, and starve for a while until you get your break or it breaks
you.
As far as finding work in a local studio in a smaller market (I assume
you were asking about St. Louis because that's where you live) there's
no substitute for direct contact. You should be well tied in to the
local music scene (if there isn't one, forget about finding a studio
where you can be an intern), and the active musicians in town can tell
you about the studios there, who's good, who's busy, and who's a jerk.
Once you have a few studios scoped out, call them and ask to come in
for a visit.
> didnt realize that in audio engineering it leads a poor attitude and a
> fast-food job. I shan't trouble you for any for advice/information.
It often does, sadly. That's why there are so many independent
engineers who can't afford to pay interns, and can't afford to have
one hanging around even for no pay. They're scrambling for their own
income.
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john smith <designingsound@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I think the original response to this guy was a little hardcore. I mean, yes
>we're professionals and we're all busy. But it was a fair question. Word of
>mouth is a great resource, especially when you're new and don't have lots of
>contacts. Dave Martin, you lambasted this guy for asking the question, and
>complaining about not having enough time, too many interns, blahblah.
I agree, but right now the whole industry is _flooded_ with kids. And it's
worse this time of year... it's only Tuesday and I have already had six
phone calls this week from folks wanting internships. (None of them could
read a conductor's score either.)
It's insane. I know that if I had faced this sort of stuff, I'd have never
started in this industry myself.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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