First of all I really mean no offence to the female race as a whole, because not every woman falls in this category, but some women are clueless as to what they want, but as a carpenter with many years experience, and many completed jobs under my belt, I get an instant gut fear when any man says, "Do whatever my wife wants".
Have you completely lost your mind to say that! Do you not realize this project is going to cost you 5 times what it should but they constantly make this mistake, and these are the men that claim to wear the pants in the family. ROFLMAO What a laugh!!!
Not every woman falls in this category, some have amazed me to the point of actually knowing more than their husbands did and after meeting their husbands it was understandable that theres book sense and theres common sense. I've learned over time to refuse the jobs where the man gives the woman free reins over a project, but every now and then one gets snuck in on me.
So finally getting to the point of this post that has me so irritated I probably could eat nails at this time, carpentry wise theres basically 2 ways to do a job staingrade and paint grade, a staingrade job requires much more care and particular attention in the construction phase of the job, wood joints have to be basically perfect, glue definitely controlled because excess glue will not take stain, a paintable job is much less details in construction phase because any cracks can and will be caulked and any excess glue will be painted over.
Well my present customers wife has just pulled something on me thats almost made me have a heart attack, [And I'm not joking] it seems she cannot remember our previous discussions and a job that was totally set up to be painted she wants clear finished, I have a lot of skill at what I do, but I am not God, I cannot create miracles and it would literally take a miracle for this job to end up looking good in the end, and her husband says "Do what she wants". So if you don't see me posting here anymore[which should make some of you very happy], its probably from a heart attack.
So guys unless your wife is one of those rare women that really know what they're talking about don't give her free rein over a construction project, unless you're ready to open your wallet really wide and pull out some bucks, because after I calm down and regroup they are going to pay out the A$$ to resolve this issue.
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Like you said Ryan, charge 'em mega-$$$ for your hassle. If they're gonna piss you around, then at least you get to make maximum $.
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
Here's what ya do. Say, "Are you sure you want me to do what she wants? Just checking, because she said she wanted me to sit back and let her blow me."
Maybe that will wake him up.
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Do what Auburn said. Yeah. Damn fine suggestion.
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
You are a genious!
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He's obviously experienced in these matters.
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
Every now and then, the clouds in my brain part just a little bit and the sun shines through for a second, and if I'm quick enough, I can put the opportunity to good use.
Maybe, Rob. Maybe.
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This type thing happened in the past but the project hadn't started yet, and I got to be pretty good friends with the husband [I'd never met the guy, he was mechanically clueless and I fixed his car for him before the job started]enough to level with him and tell him, This is what your wife is asking me to build for you and $$$$$This is what it costs, are you sure you want to do this, I don't want any problems with you when it comes time to write the check! He said WHHAAAT! I didn't have any idea it was going to cost that much, what can we do, I said well for one thing you can get involved here in the decision making process before you're in trouble here. Everytime he sees me now he tells everyone how I saved him so much money!
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It's all a matter of money and the need to show off. You definitely need a lot of money to make a statement like that
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There is the possiblity that the woman is really ugly and the husband may pay him to service his wife.
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From what I understand building a home together is very stressfull and leads to many divorces. It's almost better to just make a decision and stick with it, no changes allowed, etc.
So realistically speaking that guy that lets his wife make the final decisions will probably have less stress than the guy who bickers with his wife and changes parts of the project here and there etc etc.
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The logical choice here is to go back to the original plans and paint the thing like it was setup to be done, but if a clear finish is the only thing acceptable to them, I promise by the time its over with they will have paid out at least 3 times the original cost, to some people tight on money that is a decision factor period, but to these people money is not a factor.
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If the wife is hot...get some head for the hassle.
if she is not...then get head and mega bucks for it.
I dont think thatsna woman thing at all, my dad is a chief engineer for a highrise building and each floor is built to the people's specs. You wouldn't believe the crazy a s s things he has done just to please one stupid dude who doesn't get it.
The lobby of this building changes all the lights every 6months, the budget for one complete changeout is $62,000. This isn't the Smithsonian, where you have a huge space. It is 31 lights, each one costs $2,000. The guy who owns the building likes the hue of these exspensive lamps and demands them. Even though a $32 bulb would do the same thing.
My dad runs a class A building and the rediculous things that he has to do for males who are so stupid when it somes to cost and do-ability is rediculous.
One CEO of a well known company that you would all know, not allowed to say who, wnated my dad to have contracters reroute the entire airflow on the floor after it was completely built because too much air blew on him. That would have been 2.2million dollars. For free my dad could walk over to his computer and close the damper in like 20seconds. but the guy was willing to spend 2.2mil to get proper airflow.
I would say men and women are equally ignorant but women are much more demanding and change their minds too damm often.
much luck, i have my fingers crossed for you
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I used that tactic for stuff I didn't care much about, like interior paint color, light fixtures, etc. Worked pretty well for us.
<font color=blue>War</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Eagle</font color=orange>
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The only thing I allowed my wife to do on the house we're having built is pick out the colours for the carpet, tile and cupboards and countertop. I also let her pick out the model of kitchen stove she wanted. Hey she has to cook for me!
Although she snuck one past me and chose a mortgage broker. Thankfully that turned out ok.
My nightmare begins after we move in because then she will be hounding me to paint. I really hate painting. I know how to do it which is probably why I hate it so much.
I let my wife paint one of our apartment bedrooms. I nearly vapour locked when I saw how she painted. Thankfully I caught her f...up before the paint dried or it would have taken two more coats to fix it.
Women should not be allowed near any tool if they haven't been properly trained how to use it.
<font color=red><i>Doctor Hooter</i></font color=red> <A HREF="http://www.page3.com/" target="_new"><b>(·Y·)</b></A>
The best projects are when a man knows what he wants going into the project because he and his wife have thoroughly gone over everything before the project starts, and that the man himself has enough sense to realize when the wife expectations need to be restricted, so that the projects expenses doesn't balloon out way past the budget.
But on the other hand I've seen women with more sense than the man, you just never know.
I've often heard that if a marriage can survive building a house, it can survive anything.
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Unless you go out during a hurricane for a smoke.
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I've heard that too.
</font color=red><i><font color=red>GOD</font color=red> <font color=blue>BLESS </font color=blue><font color=red>AMERICA
Or unless you let a Wingding into your house.
I'm the good time that was had by all
I like blow jobs!
But thats by far not going to solve this!
Right now I'm so pissed that woman doesn't even need to be in the same room with me!
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She might choke during the act, that would solve it, no?
BigMac
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Okey dokey, then. Hey, I tried. That took all the energy I had, so you're on your own now.
<pre>*sniff, sniff* Nobody likes my ideas, I'm gonna go pout now.</pre><p><font color=blue>War</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Eagle</font color=orange>
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...*points and laughs*...
HAHA! Billy no mates!
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
Every shreik of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out "dear God, what is that thing?" will echo in your perfect ears. That is what "the pain" means. It means I leave you in anguish. Wallowing in freakish misery forever.
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Jeez, I thought you were talking to me just then.
I'm the good time that was had by all
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ROFLMAO
I needed that Mac!
Just make sure theres a 200mph wind blowing, that would have ripped the door off the house if you opened it, that you couldn't have even stood on your feet in the first place, that even if you could have stood on your feet would have been enough pressure on your body you could see your skeletal frame, then if by some miracle you survived, the surgeon would have to remove the lighter and cigarette from your anus.
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OK, now I'm confused. W...T...F...?
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
I'll explain. And I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to understand, you warthog-faced buffoon.
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On second thought maybe pulling out all her teeth with pliers first may make it worth it!
Nah I'm not that mad, Thats too extreme.
On the other hand Wingy might have a go at her, and I'll watch!
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Oooh, someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning.
I'm the good time that was had by all
Oh that's just charming.
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
Is that in the right thread?
<font color=blue>War</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Eagle</font color=orange>
"I am not a role model." - Charles Barkley
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Princess Bride quotes! Man....
</font color=red><i><font color=red>GOD</font color=red> <font color=blue>BLESS </font color=blue><font color=red>AMERICA
U R Gay.
I'm the good time that was had by all
Are you having another period?
Just how many do you have a month?
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Ahh, OK. That might do it. 'Bout all I remember from that one is the "It's inconceivable!" thing.
<font color=blue>War</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Eagle</font color=orange>
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I just let one very stinky fart rip. I shall name it Ryan.
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Stop trying to change the subject, you Alabama ladyboy.
I'm the good time that was had by all
Thanks I just love being your Pal, such fringe benefits!
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Seconded.
<font color=blue>"Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks" - Kryten </font color=blue>
It's all SoD's fault. He got us all edgy (in my specific case, well over the edge i'm afraid).
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I was out in the harbor looking at the aircraft carriers when I saw a seagull fighting with a sailor. Bravely I stood there in awe resisting the temptation to intervene on behalf of all good French patriots.
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Somebody get this man some medication, and quick.
Nurse, the screens...
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[tears in eyes] Thanks! what an honor!
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Man the smell is terrible. My eyes are watering too.
I shall go take a nasty dump and name it Auburn.
Then I shall go back to sleep where I will have sweet dreams about all of your ladies giving me sexual pleasure.
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SOD's really gotten under you skin there Mac, what thread did this happen in, if you don't mind me asking?
He's already made my list!
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You're not letting him get off the hook that easily are you?
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Sweet dreams my little angel haired pasta!
Let all the forum beware, DH and I have declared a truce between us!
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<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=98900#98900" target="_new">This topic</A> drove me over the edge.
It was already well known (to me at least) that SoD was not a very enlighted person in many aspects but when he started to accuse others of being uneducated while continuing to spout his utter BS, that was too much.
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The guy is a carpenter ? ROFLOL that puts him in league with Jesus Christ but for this guy to argue with me about computers in another post.......LOL
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Environmentalists say that cars are unfit for our planets ecology. If Jesus was alive today he would drive an SUV because he's got 15 disciples to drag around with him and he needs plenty of room in back for his tools!!
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