Why I Use Linux and not Windows XP.

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George Littlefield wrote:

> At some point I simply got sick of buying hardware just to keep up with
> Microsoft's bloated software.
> I have a PIII 800mhz with 256mb RAM and I am running Slackware on it.
> Right now, I have 26 different video's playing via mplayer, command
> line, no gui.
> I am burning a DVD back up and I am posting this message.
> None of the videos is skipping, the backup is doing fine and there is
> no delay in typing this message.
> Try THAT with Windows XP and see what happens.
> And THAT is why I use Linux instead of Windows.
> Peter Jacobsen

You are right on in your assessment. I'm running Linux on a computer that is
far below my XP machine in terms of horsepower, amount of RAM, video card,
etc. Yet my Linux box runs twice as fast and I've measured the TCP/IP
throughput and it is almost double that from the Windows TCP stack.

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Amy wrote:
> I agree because I am using a P450mz with 512 Megabytes of RAM and I am
> able to run almost 35 different videos using xine before things start
> to slow down. This boxen uses a Cirrus video card and I am able to burn
> CD's and download from the internet at the same time as playing the
> videos with no trouble.
> I can't even get Windows XP to install on this machine because it
> complains.
> Long Live Linux!!!!!
> Amy
>
> George Littlefield wrote:
>
>>At some point I simply got sick of buying hardware just to keep up with
>>Microsoft's bloated software.
>>I have a PIII 800mhz with 256mb RAM and I am running Slackware on it.
>>Right now, I have 26 different video's playing via mplayer, command
>>line, no gui.
>>I am burning a DVD back up and I am posting this message.
>>None of the videos is skipping, the backup is doing fine and there is
>>no delay in typing this message.
>>Try THAT with Windows XP and see what happens.
>>And THAT is why I use Linux instead of Windows.
>>Peter Jacobsen


Wow, that's amazing.

I wish I could be a linux advocate. In this way I could tell all sorts
of pro linux lies and be thought of highly for my efforts.

<insert round of applause here>

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"Amy" <amy_fisher1900@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:1118010549.130251.11520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I agree because I am using a P450mz with 512 Megabytes of RAM and I am
> able to run almost 35 different videos using xine before things start

35 videos at once?
who needs that?

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"Amy" <amy_fisher1900@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>I agree because I am using a P450mz with 512 Megabytes of RAM and I am
> able to run almost 35 different videos using xine before things start

35 videos at once?
who needs that?

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S.Heenan <sheenan@wahs.ac> wrote:
>Amy wrote:
>> I agree because I am using a P450mz with 512 Megabytes of RAM and I am
>> able to run almost 35 different videos using xine before things start
>> to slow down. This boxen uses a Cirrus video card and I am able to burn
>> CD's and download from the internet at the same time as playing the
>> videos with no trouble.

Sheesh. I ran the entire mail and news feed for the southeastern US
on a machine with 256 Kw (512 Kb) and 20 Mb of disk. And it was zippy
too. You need to get all that bloated junk off your machine and then
maybe you'll start getting decent performance.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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George Littlefield wrote:
> At some point I simply got sick of buying hardware just to keep up with
> Microsoft's bloated software.
> I have a PIII 800mhz with 256mb RAM and I am running Slackware on it.
> Right now, I have 26 different video's playing via mplayer, command
> line, no gui.
> I am burning a DVD back up and I am posting this message.
> None of the videos is skipping, the backup is doing fine and there is
> no delay in typing this message.
> Try THAT with Windows XP and see what happens.
> And THAT is why I use Linux instead of Windows.
> Peter Jacobsen
>
As soon as I can get wireless to work Im back to FreeBS... I mean Fedora
(Need Fortran 90 == Intel at the moment)

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Gordon Ramsy <gr@madeupname.com> wrote:
>>
>As soon as I can get wireless to work Im back to FreeBS... I mean Fedora
>(Need Fortran 90 == Intel at the moment)

Much as I like BSD, I will say that the g90 compiler runs under Windows
as well with the Cygwin toolkit, and it works surprisingly well. After
years of making fun of the worthless g77 compiler that hardly worked at
all, I am absolutely delighted that Stallman and crew finally managed to
make a true native Fortran compiler that seems to make solid code. And
of course it's free and runs on just about any 32 or 64 bit Unix you can
name.
--scott
--
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Whether or not he needs to is irrelevant. The fact is he can, because
the OS is not so wasteful. You might not think it matters, and maybe
if you don't actually use your computer for anything serious, it
doesn't, but for those who need to do serious work in a reasonable
amount of time it does matter.

They put men on the moon with 64kb of memory in the on board computers.
MS can barely run an OS on than 2000 times that. There is something
fundamentally wrong there.

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This was actually a deciding factor in my choosing Linux over BSD at
the time, since my migration to UNIX in general was pushed by my need
for a real OS to run very heavy numerical models on.

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George Littlefield wrote:

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> Peter Jacobsen

Forgot who you were supposed to be again, Flatfish? Must be hard to
keep track of 5-10 new identities each day.

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Why are you posting this to rec.audio.pro? Unlike the umpteen previous
posts it does not even pretend to have any connection with pro audio.

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Noah Roberts wrote:
> George Littlefield wrote:
>
>
> Who ARE these people and what newsgroup are they posting from?
>
> I know the first of the rec.audio.pro trolls came from that group but
> now I think there are others just tacking it on to annoy people. COLM
> could also do without all these messages as well. We all use Linux,
> that is why we are in that group...we don't need advocacy.

It's some person known as "flatfish" that's been x-posting all those
trolls into rec.audio.pro.

"George Littlefield" is yet another of his many sock-puppets. "Amy" is
another. Basically, if it's a troll x-posted to your group and
c.o.l.a., it's flatfish.

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In article <11a7dc35cj03836@corp.supernews.com>,
Noah Roberts <nroberts@dontemailme.com> wrote:
>George Littlefield wrote:
>
>
>Who ARE these people and what newsgroup are they posting from?
>
>I know the first of the rec.audio.pro trolls came from that group but
>now I think there are others just tacking it on to annoy people. COLM
>could also do without all these messages as well. We all use Linux,
>that is why we are in that group...we don't need advocacy.

No, Flatfish is definitely not a r.a.p. regular. We all thought he came
out of the Linux groups.
--scott
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Like someone would need an excuse to use anything but The Dark Side.



In article <1118008725.402744.219560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
George Littlefield <gol1944@yahoo.com> wrote:

> At some point I simply got sick of buying hardware just to keep up with
> Microsoft's bloated software.
> I have a PIII 800mhz with 256mb RAM and I am running Slackware on it.
> Right now, I have 26 different video's playing via mplayer, command
> line, no gui.
> I am burning a DVD back up and I am posting this message.
> None of the videos is skipping, the backup is doing fine and there is
> no delay in typing this message.
> Try THAT with Windows XP and see what happens.
> And THAT is why I use Linux instead of Windows.
> Peter Jacobsen
>

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On 2005-06-06, Mike Rivers <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote:
>
> In article <1118008725.402744.219560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> gol1944@yahoo.com writes:
>
>> At some point I simply got sick of buying hardware just to keep up with
>> Microsoft's bloated software.
>
> Then why didn't you just quit buying more Microsoft's bloated software
> and stick with the version that fit the hardware you have? I'm running

Old commercial software ISN'T SUPPORTED.

That's one of the key problems with commercial software in
general. This is especially problematic when you've got a worm farm
like Microsoft Windows. Security patch support is nothing to blow off
with a Microsoft product.

> Win98 on my studio computer (a 266 MHz Pentium II) because it does
> everything I want it to do. Understand that it will not do everything
> someone else might want, but it's fine for me.
>
> If you want more capability, you probably need more power to go along
> with it.

...except the current version of Windows doesn't represent any more
power.

[deletia]

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In article <o42dnWMKn-WRHznfRVn-tQ@comcast.com> jedi@nomad.mishnet writes:

> Old commercial software ISN'T SUPPORTED.

But it doesn't break, either. If you keep it running on old hardware,
what support do you need? Oh, a new sound card? More plug-ins? Then it
isn't old software any more.


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"Buford" <buford@here.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:14:07 -0600, ray wrote:
>
>> I'd have a hell of a time trying to keep up with 26 videos at once!!
>
> Well, you have to pace yourself, obviously.

I get a sore wrist after only 2 or 3 videos...

geoff

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In article <GISdndApsvczOTjfRVn-tQ@comcast.com> jedi@nomad.mishnet writes:

> SECURITY FIXES!

Who needs security? Just keep your audio computer away from the
outside world. It wasn't a problem before people started exposing
their computers to other computers. You can deal with this by other
means than upgrading the software.

> Which were mentioned in the part of my post that you conveniently
> removed. There are also breakfixes to consider. There's more than just drivers
> to consider here. Something might BREAK. If this is software that's making
> you money, you need to make sure it's still working.

If it's old software, persumably you've discovered the breaks and
obtained the fixes while it was still supported. If not, too bad. You
got old software and it's not supported. It has cost you nothing for a
long time (or you got it recently for nothing because it was old and
unsupported). It's no different than old hardware that's not
supported. Time marches on, and software developers need to make a
living, too.


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"JEDIDIAH" <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message news:GISdndApsvczOTjfRVn-

> Even if the system is not making money for you, it will still cost
> money to replace it if it breaks for some reason.

A great time to put your reliance is a bunch of disparate hobbiests all
doing their own separate coding on the same modules.


geoff

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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <GISdndApsvczOTjfRVn-tQ@comcast.com> jedi@nomad.mishnet writes:
>
> > SECURITY FIXES!
>
> Who needs security? Just keep your audio computer away from the
> outside world.

I have trouble figuring out why the DAW needs to be on the internet at all.
The fact that you can buy a PC for 500 dollars that is more suited for
general use (add a little $ if you want to play games) makes me wonder why
anyone who takes audio seriously would subject their DAW to the rigors of
the electronic wilderness.

I suppose online collaboration is an excuse if your into that, but configure
any hardware firewall properly and refrain from web surfing and you've got
all the security you need. If you really need to update software, CD's work,
or with very little know-how, you can have a small network and deny internet
access to/from the DAW, even inserting yet another firewall in between the
DAW and the rest of the network.

I think it's got to be very young people that are driving this idea that you
should just use your general purpose PC for audio.

>It wasn't a problem before people started exposing
> their computers to other computers.

I told this to Mastercard when my CC# was stolen and they got more than a
little irritated. If my informations at risk, they really need to explain to
me, the customer, what advantage I get.

jb

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In article <ppKdnak9-PemzzvfRVn-rQ@adelphia.com> opaloka@REMOVECAPSyahoo.com writes:

> I have trouble figuring out why the DAW needs to be on the internet at all.
> The fact that you can buy a PC for 500 dollars that is more suited for
> general use (add a little $ if you want to play games) makes me wonder why
> anyone who takes audio seriously would subject their DAW to the rigors of
> the electronic wilderness.

Upgrades. There are always around this for the creative person with
another computer, but most prefer the simple "click to check for
updates" method. Also, software that requires registration in order to
activate it usualy prefers to be registred from the program while on
line.

> I think it's got to be very young people that are driving this idea that you
> should just use your general purpose PC for audio.

Not necessarily the chonologically young, but those who are coming
into audio recording from the computer aspect - "I already have a
computer and now I can record music on it, so why not?"

> >It wasn't a problem before people started exposing
> > their computers to other computers.
>
> I told this to Mastercard when my CC# was stolen and they got more than a
> little irritated. If my informations at risk, they really need to explain to
> me, the customer, what advantage I get.

The only time my Master Card got misused was shortly after returning
something that I had purchased at a retail store with it. I figure
that the clerk who took the return just grabbed my credit card number
since he had all the paperwork in front of him. I bought computer
equipment and he used the card to buy more computer equipment,
probably thinking I wouldn't notice it on my bill. Since the amount
was unusual for my habits, Master Card called me before processing the
sale to ask if it was really me.

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