cdr burners- newer media (tascam cdrw-5000, etc.)

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i'm looking for a stand-alone pro cd recorder that can handle modern
52x speed media. i've called tascam and marantz and neither had
firmware upgrades or any other help on what their machines could do
with modern media. so, does anyone have one of these machines (tascam
cdrw-5000 or marantz cdr-630/631) and are they able to use 1x - 52x
media (and what brand media, if applicable)?

i'd like to be able to burn stuff cheaply without having to totally
break the bank on an HHB or newer Tascam.

TIA for your help!

-daver

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In article <1118451391.299153.303270@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> mainmachine@choiceonemail.com writes:

> i'm looking for a stand-alone pro cd recorder that can handle modern
> 52x speed media.

The trick is to buy a new one (a current model) and use it a whole lot
so that by the time media that works with it becomes hard to find, it
will be worn out and you can replace it with another current model.

> does anyone have one of these machines (tascam
> cdrw-5000 or marantz cdr-630/631) and are they able to use 1x - 52x
> media (and what brand media, if applicable)?

I have a CD-RW5000. When it was new, it would work with office supply
store disks (which, at the time, were 16x speed) but when I've tried
these in the past couple of years, often as not they fail the laser
calibration and won't work.

When I asked the same question here as you have, someone was kind
enough to send me a few Taiyo Yuden silver (52x 80 minute) blanks to
try and they all worked, so I ordered a stack from Media Supply (about
35 cents each in 100 quantity) and so far they've been good. Maybe
they'll still be available next time I need to buy some. I really
don't use it very much any more, but it's nice to have on the
occasions when it's the right tool for the job. I usually take it
along on a remote job so I can hand a reference CD to the client before
I leave.


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mainmachine <mainmachine@choiceonemail.com> wrote:
>sorry, i meant older machines- obviously newer machines can handle the
>latest media.

It's not a matter of it being the "latest media." It's a matter of it
not being the right media. No, the newer standalone audio machines
cannot use the 52x disks.
--scott


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mainmachine <mainmachine@choiceonemail.com> wrote:
>so what about these blanks that are labeled/ advertised as "1x - 52x"?
>logic says they should work with any machine, right?

Most of them don't work very well on ANY machine. Most of them have
way too high an error rate for audio use no matter what speed you
use.

>or maybe it's just the manufacturer trying to make their product seem
>more versatile...

It's a matter of it not being the right thing for the job. These are
disks that are intended for high speed and low cost. You want disks
that are intended for low error rate and long life.
--scott
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Lars Farm <see.bottom.of.page@farm.se> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> The error rate on the 52x disks is enormously
>> high. That junk is designed for CD-ROMs with have several levels of
>> error correction and can re-read after soft errors. Not for audio CDs.
>
>I asked Plextor support about different speeds for audio CD and data CD.
>Their answer was that at the burner level there is no difference. The
>quality depends on the media rather than what you burn. So when Plextor
>say 52x they mean 52x, audio and data the same.

Right. But with data discs, you can get away with an outrageously high
error rate and nobody will complain. With audio discs this is not the
case.

>I'd like a way to test this error rate, anyone know how on OSX?

Not offhand. Write Plextor and tell them you want a port of Plextools
for OSX!
--scott
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