which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

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On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, bluesjeon@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>
>I use Echo gina2496.
>when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
>horrible bluescreen
>appears and my computer downed
>I should change my audio interface.
>which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

Why don't you turn hibernate off? I've seen it cause problems with a
lot of applications.

Julian

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<bluesjeon@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1118730995.037386.238550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> hibernate mode save electcricity,


Negligible.


> therefore save money



No hibernate saves your work and your business.

No business = no money.

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Julian wrote:
> On 13 Jun 2005 23:36:35 -0700, bluesjeon@hotmail.com wrote:

>>hibernate mode save electcricity ,therefore save money
>>thanks

> Use no screensaver, turn off monitor and hard disks in power settings,
> saves the same amount of money and doesn't make blue screens of death.

That will save some energy, but perhaps not as much as putting the
device into Stand By mode.

Going in and out of hibernate mode is quite a severe operation, since
it involves writing the contents of memory to disk and then totally
shutting off power, then restoring memory from disk after power is
restored. Importantly, I believe device drivers have to restore a
device to a running state after its power in effect been cut, but
without a full reboot. I'm pretty sure it's possible to write a
device driver that behaves just fine normally but has a fatal bug
that is exposed only when going into (or coming out of) hibernate
mode.

Anyway, the point is that Stand By mode is sort of similar to
Hibernate mode, but memory isn't dumped to hard disk, and power
isn't removed from the whole system. Still, it should save
more power than just having the hard disk spin down and the
monitor blank.

Doing a quick test, I have a 1.3 GHz Athlon machine running Windows XP
with 3 disk drives in it. I hooked it up to my "Kill-a-Watt" meter
(which measures how much power it is drawing from the 120V outlet) and
tested the power usage of the computer itself in a few scenarios:

running normally, but idle: 145W to 160W, but usually 150W
all hard disks spun down, display blanked: 124W
Stand By mode: 60W
Hibernate mode: 2-3W
totally "off": 2-3W
after I flip power supply's rocker switch to "0": 0W

So, it would seem that Stand By mode isn't nearly as good as off
or hibernate, but it's a lot better than enabling the hard disks
to spin down and so on. On the other hand, it's entirely possible
that the system may crash with Stand By mode as well...

- Logan

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bluesjeon@hotmail.com wrote:
> I use Echo gina2496.
> when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
> horrible bluescreen
> appears and my computer downed
> I should change my audio interface.
> which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

You could try using an interface that connects through Firewire or
through USB. Because these buses support power saving as an integral
part of their operation and because the very lowest level stuff is
taken care of by code that is tested more thoroughly (the generic
Windows code for handling USB or Firewire, rather than a third-party
driver), it seems like the chances of a bug that could cause a
Hibernate crash would be much lower.

Of course, I am not a heavy Windows user, so I could be wrong about that...

- Logan

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> running normally, but idle: 145W to 160W, but usually 150W
> all hard disks spun down, display blanked: 124W
> Stand By mode: 60W
> Hibernate mode: 2-3W
> totally "off": 2-3W
> after I flip power supply's rocker switch to "0": 0W


That's a cool set of measurements, and tells us a lot. The only factor that
isn't accounted for here is the monitor power.

-John O

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In article <1118730995.037386.238550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> bluesjeon@hotmail.com writes:

> hibernate mode save electcricity ,therefore save money

Fixing the results of a crash wastes time, therefore wastes money. You
can't have everything. Choose your poisons carefully.

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On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, bluesjeon@hotmail.com wrote:
>I use Echo gina2496.
>when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
>horrible bluescreen
>appears and my computer downed
>I should change my audio interface.
>which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

Hibernate and Standby are both dependent on your computer's add-in
cards, hardware and BIOS all supporting the same power management
standards as your operating system. There have been several
generations of power management, from "APM" through "ACPI". I have a
system designed for Win98/NT that will standby and hibernate with
those systems, but not with XP - using the same add-in cards and
devices. It can't do the newer form of power management.

Sometimes a BIOS or driver update will improve compatibility, and
sometimes there are BIOS settings for enabling power management and
choosing which variety, but if any part of your hardware doesn't
support the power management standard your OS wants to use, you are
out of luck.

Loren

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"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message...

> Um, I think that should be enough info to cover everything. If anyone
> wants to know how much my refrigerator uses let me know... ;-)


Yup... I'm printing a hard copy of that one for a keeper. Thanks!

DM

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great information
thank u

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"Ben Bradley" <ben_nospam_bradley@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, bluesjeon@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>I use Echo gina2496.
>>when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
>>horrible bluescreen
>>appears and my computer downed
>>I should change my audio interface.
>>which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

I regularly use the Sound Devices USBpre with hibernate enabled and I've had
no problems. It's just a two channel mic pre line interface which received
it's power via USB see:
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/usbpremaster.htm but it does show that
it's nothing inherently wrong with the hibernate mode. I would ask your
hardware manufacture for more information as to what it takes to
reinitialize the device when it's had it's power cut and restored or what
might be causing the BSOD's. I've found that standby and hibernation modes
in XP are pretty reliable. I did have occasional lockups on a Vaio laptop
coming out of hibernate but these were tracked down to video driver issues
that were not the fault of XP.

Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA