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Has anybody noticed how a Piano always sounds better when you are not
recording it. :o)
The thing is sitting in the studio and a vocalist or acoustic guitarist
stops to tinkle the keys and it always seems to sound better than when
you use all your experience, skill and judgement to try make it sound
good.
This seems to apply to all studios too...

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On 6/16/05 2:04 PM, in article
1118945049.825292.170680@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "studiorat"
<daveslevin@02.ie> wrote:

> Has anybody noticed how a Piano always sounds better when you are not
> recording it. :o)
> The thing is sitting in the studio and a vocalist or acoustic guitarist
> stops to tinkle the keys and it always seems to sound better than when
> you use all your experience, skill and judgement to try make it sound
> good.
> This seems to apply to all studios too...
>

Not if you really WANT to get it to sound that way...

Omni and distance...

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:13:33 +0200, SSJVCmag wrote:

> On 6/16/05 2:04 PM, in article
> 1118945049.825292.170680@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "studiorat"
> <daveslevin@02.ie> wrote:
>
>> Has anybody noticed how a Piano always sounds better when you are not
>> recording it. :o)
>> The thing is sitting in the studio and a vocalist or acoustic guitarist
>> stops to tinkle the keys and it always seems to sound better than when
>> you use all your experience, skill and judgement to try make it sound
>> good.
>> This seems to apply to all studios too...
>>
>>
> Not if you really WANT to get it to sound that way...
>
> Omni and distance...

And a room with good acoustics.

--
Chel van Gennip
Visit Serg van Gennip's site http://www.serg.vangennip.com

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Well duuuh!!!
I think they just sound nice on their own when you don't have to make
them sit in a track or anything, and the mic. thats picking it up is
usually in a nice sounding part of the room, after all I was recording
a different acoustic instrument...
Simplicity rules.

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Sure i agree , without judgment about how it " should " sound and if it's
good enough
or the good & bad qualities [ it's an easy warm up for dealing with people
hah ! ]

But , yeah no pressure , maybe no direction either so the mere listening is
easy to do

regards Greg


"studiorat" <daveslevin@02.ie> wrote in message
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> Has anybody noticed how a Piano always sounds better when you are not
> recording it. :o)
> The thing is sitting in the studio and a vocalist or acoustic guitarist
> stops to tinkle the keys and it always seems to sound better than when
> you use all your experience, skill and judgement to try make it sound
> good.
> This seems to apply to all studios too...
>

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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:14:47 +0200, studiorat wrote:

> Well duuuh!!!
> I think they just sound nice on their own when you don't have to make
> them sit in a track or anything, and the mic. thats picking it up is
> usually in a nice sounding part of the room, after all I was recording a
> different acoustic instrument...
> Simplicity rules.

For a piano you need distance, if you need distance the room gets more
important. If you are in a room the human ear/brain compensates a lot for
room acoustics, your mic's won't.

--
Chel van Gennip
Visit Serg van Gennip's site http://www.serg.vangennip.com

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Chel van Gennip wrote:


>
> For a piano you need distance, if you need distance the room gets more
> important. If you are in a room the human ear/brain compensates a lot for
> room acoustics, your mic's won't.
>
> --
> Chel van Gennip
> Visit Serg van Gennip's site http://www.serg.vangennip.com

If you are listening to a mic that got more of the room sound in it do
you then compensate for those acoustics? Know what I mean?

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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:22:38 +0200, studiorat wrote:
> Chel van Gennip wrote:
>> For a piano you need distance, if you need distance the room gets more
>> important. If you are in a room the human ear/brain compensates a lot
>> for room acoustics, your mic's won't.
>
> If you are listening to a mic that got more of the room sound in it do
> you then compensate for those acoustics? Know what I mean?

No. A microphone just picks a single signal. The human ear/brains are
capable to distinguish a lot more directional information, especially if
the head is moving.

--
Chel van Gennip
Visit Serg van Gennip's site http://www.serg.vangennip.com

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> > If you are listening to a mic that got more of the room sound in it do
> > you then compensate for those acoustics? Know what I mean?
>
> No. A microphone just picks a single signal. The human ear/brains are
> capable to distinguish a lot more directional information, especially if
> the head is moving.

I know, but do you not think you may compensate by thinking that's the
sound of the piano in that specific environment? I'm talking about the
sound that is coming from the monitors...

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