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Core2Duo vs. Turion X2 Dual Core... which performs better?

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September 5, 2006 11:24:43 PM


Which performs better Intel Core Duo or the AMD Turion X2 Dual Core?

THAT, is the $64,000 question, isn't it?
The simple answer is the AMD Turion X2 (hereafter (TuX2) is faster than the Core Duo.
The Intel Core 2 Duo (hereafter; C2D), is mostly faster than the TuX2.

BUT, here is the thing, the Core 2 Duo is almost too powerful, what does that mean?
Well, I have found with my benchmarks that for gaming, the C2D doesn't do much more than a Core Duo if you have less than a 7800 class GPU. Turns out that the GPU is the bottleneck in the system.

The TuX2 on the other hand, in the 7600/x1600 class of GPU's performs better for gaming. Now this is pure numbers talking. To me, when I watch a game demo like "Return to Proxycon" in 3DMark 05 or 06 the TuX2 is smoother than the Core Duo. It is about the same as the Core 2 Duo. You get some better frame rates, which makes sense since the AMD platform was pretty much custom tailored to gamers.

The memory is better handled with the TuX2 of course because of the onboard memory controller, I think the GPU has a slight edge (pretty game specific) as far as future proof-ed-ness (?).

For regular work and apps, you aren't going to notice a difference, and since the C2D finally came around to 64 bit, the playing filed is much more leveled. If, again we are talking baout the standard Core Duo, then you have to hand it to the TuX2 here again too, being 64 bit and the Core Duo being 32 bit.

Contrary to what a lot of people are saying about 64 bit O.S. and the negligible speed difference, I can tell you with 100% certainty, there is a noticable performance improvement, even on 32 bit apps. It is overall faster, I have used it, I can tell the difference when something is faster, and when I don't have to look for it, it is definately there.

There was an article on Tom's saying that the Turion X2 was pretty much too little too late and a "second choice"... if that. That is just silly, and so vague and generalized that it just might be arguably true in a pure numbers sense, but in reality like all things, it is true within a certain band of performance, which is being focused on.

To say that "[compared to the C2D] the Turion X2 is too little too late, and a second choice... if that" Is like saying, "In Japan, the hand is used as a knife. In Japan a man wife's hand job then can cost him his life." Kind of two differnt applications, you know? Everything in the world is tuned to operate optimally within this "specific performance band". A dragster has more horsepower and is faster than a Triumph 995i Daytona SuperBike... in a straight line... but it is difficult to compare the machines by horsepower without looking at the other factors, making it difficult to compare the two in any other way.

You simply can not compare a decked out T7600 2.33 Core 2 Duo in an Executioner with a 7900 GTX with 512 Mb of GDDR3 to a TL-60 2.0 Ghz Turion X2, nVidia 7600 256 MB in the Zatoichi, all other things are not equal. It is the other things that make that ultra-high-end machine kick-ass throughout its performance band. The more money you spend, the wider the performance band can be made. For what you want to do, and what you want to spend, it would be difficult to beat the TuX2 IMHO.

I personally love this computer... maybe because I have a soft spot for AMD, but mostly I think, because the thing is awesome, and for a sub-$2,000 machine ($1999 fully loaded, it can't be beat. When we look at the "performance band" of mid-level GPU's (x1600/7600) and less than $2,000 then you are looking at the hands down winner.

September 6, 2006 3:35:42 PM

Well, if you send me a typical file you would use I can run it on both machines for you. TL-60 vs. T7200 and give you the exact answer.
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September 6, 2006 7:59:58 PM

has TuX2 overcome its problems with heating?
September 6, 2006 9:12:11 PM

Yes, once you apply the chipset patch it runs really cool. I was surprised.
October 27, 2006 7:18:57 AM

I have owned two 955is a 99 yellow and a 01 silver(not to mention two 99 speed triples). They are really more glorified sport touring bikes then Superbikes. My 06 gsxr1000 for the win. The 99 yellow is maybe the sexiest sport bike ever made.



Back to CPUs.......

I am a newb when it comes to mobile chips i have a sager clevo 900 build with the 6800 card, Its been one failure after another for the last year plus. I am thinking of moveing on to the 5760 platform.



So......


I know you rambled on about the game driven design of the AMD, but that is lost on me becuse i dont understand the context given in your mini review. But this is really what i gathered from what you have written.

Basically What you are saying is the c2d combined with pcie cards Will give you longer legs untill the Processor becomes the Bottle neck again?



Combined with you saying they both have simular current day performance to the point you really cant tell the Diffrence. Doesnt that just about make the C2d King in a laptop based on its power consumption?



Thanks in advance if you find the time to clarify this for me ( please excuse my english)
October 27, 2006 11:25:52 AM

The Core 2 Duo is the undisputed champion, yes.
Can you give me a link to the 900 class notebook you have, there are several models. Depending on the chipset and socket, you may be able to upgrade it.
October 27, 2006 11:15:34 PM

How bout for number crunching. Distributed computing stuff like SETI, protein folding, weather prediction.... etc, and games too.
October 28, 2006 1:14:40 AM

Well that would be floating point and AMD processors outshine Intel when running a single, processor-intensive application from what I have read.
September 4, 2008 12:45:36 PM

you said something about applying a chipset patch to keep your turion cool. what patch were you referring to?
September 17, 2008 8:31:42 PM

hi ..
please tell me ,one of this product of hp is beter ?
hp DV5-1050 : amd-Turion2.2 zm82
or
hp Dv5106 :c2d 2.26

tnx.
a b D Laptop
September 17, 2008 9:48:10 PM

If all else in the laptop is the same (RAM, GPU, HDD, etc) then the HP with the Core2duo in it will be faster.

The new versions of the Turion have gotten better, but clock for clock, the Core2's are still faster.
September 17, 2008 10:23:36 PM

Depends on how you efine "better". . .

Over all, Intel has pretty muched owned the mobile scene since the Pentium M as it offers as good or better performance (especially with to the ability to push higher clock rates) as AMD with, usually, lower power consumption in CPU instensive tasks.. But the OP is still correct: at the midrange, there really is little preceptible difference.

September 18, 2008 4:54:30 PM

Wow, 2 year thread necromancy.
April 30, 2009 11:24:07 AM

i want to know different between core2duo and dual core
November 18, 2009 6:27:25 PM

@krishan kant


dude ur still in 18th century :) 
a b D Laptop
November 18, 2009 6:32:46 PM

@husypunter

dude you're a noob necromancing an archaic thread.
December 4, 2009 8:26:34 PM

When you review laptop processors, it might be nice if you to mention things that even matter.

Perfomance in terms of a Laptop means operating temperature, power consumption and power management features.

Wasting your money on a "gaming" laptop is silly. The screens aren't high enough resolution even if the video card can mange to push decent graphics without melting down the chassis. It will never touch a desktop.
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