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What happened:

Last week I bought an ACER aspire 3663WLMi wich was working fine. Yesterday my battery ran out on me while in college and after plugging it in at home and firing up the notebook was in hibernation mode needing the power button to start it up. The bios password prompt came up, I entered it and the message read "illegal password" knowing 100% sure the password is correct since its the same one as on my previous notebook that I've had over 2 years I tried again this time making sure not to make a typo and again "illegal password".

A call to the quite rude, I might add, acer waranty techie taught me that I forgot my password, passwords do not change themselves and are therefore not covered under the waranty. It would actualy cost me quite alot to unlock it again + they would charge me for the transport costs.

So I did some digging and BEHOLD there were other people reporting to have the exact same problem of their notebook not accepting the bios password after coming out of hibernation mode. Another call to the techie didn't help, it was all my fault there is no such thing as a bugged bios and unlocking the laptop would still cost me.

This must be a nice little extra revenue for ACER another extra 50$ ontop of the sales price as I'm sure sooner or later everybody who enables the bios pw will end up with a notebook in hibernation mode.

I am going to make one final call to them in the morning and if they give me the same anwser I'll void the waranty, unhook the battery, reproduce the bug and if it does reproduce I am calling a couple of consumer magazines as I won't stand for being ripped off.

I hope making this a bit more public will make companies like ACER be a bit more careful checking their products before releasing them on the market.

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First of All, Rarely does a company cover that under warranty. And just because you believe you uncovered some big fault doesn't mean anyother company cares.

What you can try and do which but does void the warranty is

disassemble the system and remove the date/clock battery (it looks like a wide watch battery) for at least 20 minutes. This will totally clear all Setup options and will revert to default values.(ONE SITE DID SUGGEST NOT TO DO THIS ON A LAPTOP)

I'm sure you have seen some .suggestions on what to do. I'm sure a notebook Mobo has CMOS jumper so Reset the CMOS using the jumpers or solder beads. (ONE SITE DID SUGGEST NOT TO DO THIS ON A LAPTOP)

If you are afraid of losing your data from doing a low level format just take the hard drive out becuase you can still access all your information.


My Acer laptop is out in the car so i can't remember what bios they use but try some of these Backdoor passwords to unlocking the computer:

For Award BIOS’ try these backdoor passwords:

AWARD_SW
j262
HLT
SER
SKY_FOX
BIOSTAR
ALFAROME
Lkwpeter
j256
AWARD?SW
LKWPETER
syxz
ALLy
589589
589721
awkward
CONCAT
d8on
CONDO
j64
szyx


For AMI BIOS’ try these backdoor passwords:

AMI
BIOS
PASSWORD
HEWITT RAND
AMI?SW
AMI_SW
LKWPETER
A.M.I.
CONDO


For PHOENIX BIOS’ try this backdoor password:

phoenix

Reply to Brechenme

Sorry if i couldn't help out....You might atleast ask for a price reduction from 50...you never know

Reply to Brechenme
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Thx for the help. Acer does use a phoenix bios unfortunately I had already tried the backdoor passwords. Battery in my laptop seems to be fixed so shorting the contacts with a small screwdriver seems like the only option as I can't seem to locate the cmos reset jumper/button whatever it is acer uses. I'll post again here after I tried reproducing the bug even tho I am only going to do it once I really hate having to resort to this one time let alone twice.

I made a mistake typing they would charge 50$ for the reset its actualy 50£ so around 95$ + transport. If they do always treat a password unlock as the customers fault thats an easy way to make money I'm sure that in the US you could get sued for something like that.

Reply to Conv

This is like using a freaking 10 page long mathematical equation to fix this problem.
Flash the BIOS first, that should kill the PW.

Reply to killernotebooks
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This is like using a freaking 10 page long mathematical equation to fix this problem.
Flash the BIOS first, that should kill the PW.



Can't flash anything at the point you are completely locked out :(

Reply to Conv
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I have an Acer 4314 that I was given because they couldn't get it to operate after kids changed the passwords and they couldn't get thru the setup password. I took out the Cmos battery,; left it out all night and shorted the terminals of the battery holder. Guess what! it still whant's a password. If I had to buy a new computer it wouldn't be an Acer, EVER!!!!!! PS I can now disasemble and reassemble this notebook blindfolded.

Any other suggestions other than the trash can???

Reply to p3flyer

On the Acer Aspire One, you need to enter the password in caps, even if you entered it in lowercase when setting the password. Perhaps your laptop does the same thing.

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If your laptop is UNDER warranty and you cant get anywhere with the stupid help desk support and they want to charge you for something you havent done there is ALWAYS a solution:
Take hard drive out ( in case you need the data ), open the back panel where the memory slot is, take memory DIMM out, get the power adapter, run two wires one inside ( plus ) and one outside ( ground ) DONT BE AFFRAID IT'S LOW VOLTAGE PERFECTLY SAFE, and place the two wires where the memory slot is or in ANY other places on the mainboard,make sure one wire is connected to a point on mainboard and the other wire to a different point. You might see some little sparks or noises, it's all OK, again is perfectly safe. Just play with those two wires a little bit on the mainboard ( power adapter has to be turned on of course ) - THE RESULT is you have a completely dead unit with NO signs of physical damage whatsoever. You can now reassemble unit as it was originally and place a call for WARRANTY SERVICE for a dead unit ( no power ). They will accept the call no problems and service your machine with no charge. Tell them you want the data back ( if you need ) because you havent got time to back up as the unit died on you.
TESTED- WORKING 100% ALL THE TIME!
Don't forget to drink a shot for me too for selling you this tip :)

Reply to kenzz0

A. By Using the Motherboard Jumper:

In most motherboards CMOS battery is soldered, which makes it difficult to remove the battery. In this case we use another method.

Almost all motherboards contain a jumper that can clear all CMOS settings along with the BIOS password. The location of this jumper varies depending upon the motherboard brand. You should read your motherboard manual to check its location. If you don't have the manual then look for the jumpers near the CMOS battery. Most of the manufacturer label the jumper as CLR, CLEAR, CLEAR CMOS, etc.

When you find the jumper, look carefully. There will be 3 pins and the jumper will be joining the center pin to either left or right pin. What you need to do, is remove the jumper and join the center pin to the opposite pin. e.g. if the jumper joins center pin to left pin, then remove it and join center pin to right pin. Now wait for a few seconds and then again remove the jumper and join the center pin to left pin.

Make sure to turn the PC off before opening the cabinet and resetting the jumper.



B. By Using Software:


I have found that BIOS/CMOS Password Recovery Tool is the most effective.:
BIOS/CMOS Password Recovery Tool is a program that works instantly to remove any lost or forgotten BIOS/CMOS password. Simply boot your PC to DOS and execute the program, and get access to forgotten BIOS/CMOS passwords in just seconds

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