Recording pro Metal Guitars

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Ivan Bertolla <ibertoll@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
>have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
>into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running through
>SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the POD
>pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
>layered ...
>Just wondering how everyone else records here ..

Some of the best guitar sounds I ever heard came out of a Pignose, and
some others came out of a Champ.

SM-57 is just fine, but I like having the amp in a big room so it can
breathe a little. I also like the EV635A on guitar, though it's not so
fashionable any more. It doesn't have the presence peak of the SM-57,
so there's a little less EQing needed to make the track sit right with
vocals or narration.
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Ivan Bertolla wrote:
> Hi great newsgroup here
> Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
> fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
> i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..
> The sort of sound Im after is something similar to Symphony X guitar sound
> and that rammsteins sound
>
> Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
> have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
> into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running through
> SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the POD
> pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
> layered ...
> Just wondering how everyone else records here ..
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ivan
>
>

Richard from rammstein has always been clear about doubling his parts
with the Sansamp. if you're having to add a POD for warmth i'd be
questioning if you're using the right amp in the first place... but
that's just me being a tone queen.

another thing to think about - lots of folks make the mistake of
"scooping" out the mids and think that is the key to sounding "heavy."
DON'T do this - listen to Rammstein - the guitar is mixed nearly
completely in the mids.

having a strong, solid bass guitar sound is very important too, and not
to be taken lightly.

best of luck,

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I think it starts with getting a good tone on a tube amp (I like the Soldano
heads for Rock or the Mesa Dual Rectifier for drop tuned stuff) a big key is
the type of speaker in the cab, I love the tight sound of a Vintage 30 in
a closed back cab (my favorite is a 2x12 Mesa Rectifier cab). I think the
SM57 is the best starting point for a mic but I tend to like the Sennhieser
MD409 (older ones with gold mess on one side) they have a great rock sound
to them. Sometimes I will also throw up a Royer 121 ribbon about a foot
back and mix in uder the SM57 or 409.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivan Bertolla" <ibertoll@bigpond.net.au>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:59 AM
Subject: Recording pro Metal Guitars


> Hi great newsgroup here
> Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
> fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
> i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..
> The sort of sound Im after is something similar to Symphony X guitar sound
> and that rammsteins sound
>
> Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
> have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
> into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running
through
> SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the
POD
> pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
> layered ...
> Just wondering how everyone else records here ..
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ivan
>
>

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Ivan Bertolla wrote:
> Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
> fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
> i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..

No, but from my experience, you need a good guitar, a good amplifier and
good speakers. Some speakers are just very "soft" sounding. And a good
player obviously. A good muting technique is the key.

There is a microphone comparison thread on HRI at
<http://www.hugeracksinc.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14132...;.

Johann
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