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Hello all,

What is the hardware needed besides a pc for pc based production &
recording? And can the pc be used for everything including mastering?

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"DJ Ziroe" wrote ...
> What is the hardware needed besides a pc for pc based production
> & recording?

At minimum, a sound device (A/D converter, D/A converter)
of quality level compatible with your budget and requirements.
Note that there are now external devices (Firewire, USB, etc.)
which enjoy good reputations.

And, of course, all the other recording equipment (microphones,
preamps/mixer, monitor speakers, cables, stands, etc.) that would
be required regardless of whether a PC is involved or not.

> And can the pc be used for everything including mastering?

Theoretically, yes. Whether you should do your own mastering is,
however, a different question and regularly debated here.

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DJ Ziroe <johnyous@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the hardware needed besides a pc for pc based production &
> recording? And can the pc be used for everything including mastering?

A room to sit in while producing music
Monitors (speakers) to hear what you're recording
amplifiers to power the speakers
An audio interface device to turn the computer digits into audio signal
Software to make the PC process audio
An audio interface to turn the audio signal into computer digits
Devices that create audio signals, either synthetically or acoustically
(this would include preamplifiers, microphones, synthesizer, samplers,
instruments, amplifiers, speakers, and vocal cords)
Wires and cables to connect all these gadgets together
Musicians to play or program the instruments and possibly sing
A room to put all those instruments and people in while they generate
the music
And of course somebody has to know how to work all that gear to
actually produce recordings

You could, in theory, use the computer to do the mastering, and even
all of the audio signal generation. I bet there are even some programs
that will take the place of the musician. You most likely will not
find a computer program that will allow the PC to do the job of
operating the computer, or of listening to the audio. You're still
going to need the output device, amplifier, speakers, listening room,
and operator.

ulysses

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Ok thanks guys, sorry im still trying to figure out about a home
studio, but i have some more questions. I have tracks done using
software only.

- Do i still need a A/D converter, D/A converter or any other hardware
excluding monitors, mics, etc.

- How do producers get that professional sound when they master? No
matter what, a trance, a techno or a hardstyle or even any track that i
produce, is not at the same fidelity as the produced track by the
professionals (not as loud and not as wide ex. synth and background
kick/bass do not drown each other). Is it a Tube effect that the
Behringer T1952 Tube Composer has?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs [...] id/182460/

I use.

Software
- FL Studio 5
(Production & Exporting Final Mix (no recording, only saving raw wavs
exactly how they are)

- Adobe Audition 1.5 (Editiing)

Soundcard
- M-Audio Revolution 5.1
ASIO
24-bit/192kHz playback on up to 6 channels
PCM, AC-3 and DTS
24-bit/96kHz mic/line recording
Full specs
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en [...] focus.html

- John

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You probably need to learn more about different effects. Compression
will make your tracks louder but don't overdo it. There are many
different directx and vst plugins available (many are free and others
can be downloaded for a trial) for a wide variety of effects. Take some
time and learn about different effects.

jwvm

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"Do i still need a A/D converter, D/A converter or any other hardware
excluding monitors, mics, etc. "

audio we hear is in the analogue stage, computers work in digital
stage
you need to get from one to the other....so
yes you need A/D D/ A conversion if you want a recording setup.

" How do producers get that professional sound when they master?"

they don't
they hire a mastering engineer.
who uses premium professional equipement
and many many years of experience.

they do not use freeware/shareware/cheap consumer grade equipement.
for a better understanding get Bob Katz's book....
"Mastering Audio the art and science" a good starting point.

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DJ Ziroe <johnyous@gmail.com> wrote:
>Ok thanks guys, sorry im still trying to figure out about a home
>studio, but i have some more questions. I have tracks done using
>software only.
>
>- Do i still need a A/D converter, D/A converter or any other hardware
>excluding monitors, mics, etc.

Yes. The converters might be built into an interface or soundcard, but
you still need them.

>- How do producers get that professional sound when they master? No
>matter what, a trance, a techno or a hardstyle or even any track that i
>produce, is not at the same fidelity as the produced track by the
>professionals (not as loud and not as wide ex. synth and background
>kick/bass do not drown each other). Is it a Tube effect that the
>Behringer T1952 Tube Composer has?

90% of this is arrangement and mixing skill. The last 10% is processing.

Buying a fake tube effects box will not help your arrangement.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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"DJ Ziroe" wrote ...
> Ok thanks guys, sorry im still trying to figure out about a
> home studio, but i have some more questions. I have tracks
> done using software only.
>
> - Do i still need a A/D converter, D/A converter or any
> other hardware excluding monitors, mics, etc.

You likely don't need A/D if you are not recording anything
originating in the analog realm. However, you still need D/A
to hear what you are doing.

> - How do producers get that professional sound when they
> master? No matter what, a trance, a techno or a hardstyle or
> even any track that i produce, is not at the same fidelity as
> the produced track by the professionals

Thus the perennial debate about trying to master your own
material vs sending it to a professional.

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In article <1120493956.571168.260530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> johnyous@gmail.com writes:

> - Do i still need a A/D converter, D/A converter or any other hardware
> excluding monitors, mics, etc.

Since you already have a sound card, you already have A/D and D/A
converters. They're built in. Now, to be honest, an M-Audio Revolution
isn't exactly pro studio grade equipment, but it's OK for home quality
work.

> - How do producers get that professional sound when they master? No
> matter what, a trance, a techno or a hardstyle or even any track that i
> produce, is not at the same fidelity as the produced track by the
> professionals

Well, that's because you have very little experience as evidenced by
your questions, and you probably don't have accurate monitoring. If
you want to get some insight into the process of mastering, I'd
suggest that you read Bobby Owsinski's book "The Mastering Engineer's
Handbook." It's full of interviews with professional mastering
engineers. It doesn't give you a shopping list and a set of
step-by-step instructions that will guarantee professional results,
but it will give you some idea of what's involved. I can tell you that
it's sometimes as little as a bit of compression and that's all, but
other times it's major surgery.


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DJ Ziroe <johnyous@gmail.com> wrote:

> - Do i still need a A/D converter, D/A converter or any other hardware
> excluding monitors, mics, etc.

The only time you need an analog-to-digital converter is when you have
analog audio signals that you need digitized. Likewise, you only need
a digital-to-analog converter when you want to convert digital audio to
analog, such as when you want to listen to the data that's on your
computer or on a CD. Like Mike said, you're using DACs all the time
without perhaps realizing it. There's one in your CD player, and one
feeding the headphone jack and/or speaker in your computer. For
professional audio, we generally look for something a bit higher
quality.

> - How do producers get that professional sound when they master?

Producers get that professional sound by practicing and learning and
getting very good at producing. Mastering engineers get that sound,
primarily, by mastering albums that were produced and engineered by
talented, skilled, experienced people.

ulysses

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