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June 7, 2004 6:42:14 PM

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i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a dell
laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds the
network, but fails to locate the base station. the adapter
always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so i
manually configured it for our own network, 192.168.2.**.
alright, now the desktop, in network utility, under 'other
network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address i
just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under that
category. can someone explain how to get the laptop to
recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the wireless
network(which it does find)?
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 7, 2004 7:41:43 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Dear Andy,

OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-520 is
configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the desktop
XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP is
set to "Obtain an IP...".

The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default. So,
if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is coming
from another network or the "Alternative Configuration"
settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell may
be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR network.

My first thought is that there is another active wireless
network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into the
MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same. From
your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks but
yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing the
same on both the desktop and the Dell?

Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.

>-----Original Message-----
>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a dell
>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds the
>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
adapter
>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so i
>manually configured it for our own network,
192.168.2.**.
>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
under 'other
>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address i
>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under that
>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop to
>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
wireless
>network(which it does find)?
>.
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 7, 2004 8:01:37 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

okay, yes for all on that checklist. under tcp/ip
settings, "obtain an ip..." is selected and
under "alternate configuraion", "automatic private" is
selected. i live in the ghetto type area of town where
wireless networking in newfangled and unheard of. plus
there are no other networks listed under "preferred
networks", just my own under my last name.

ok, on the inspiron laptop("ryan" on the network)i checked
the status and clicked the support tab. under internet
protocol(tcp/ip), "address type: Automatic Private
address". the ip address is 169.254.***.**(it changes all
the time). on the dimension desktop, under the same tab,
it says "address type: Assigned by DHCP". the ip
address is 192.168.2.18. i think that the problem is that
the dhcp(enabled on base station) is not giving "ryan" an
ip address. any more ideas? any more info needed?

>-----Original Message-----
>
>Dear Andy,
>
>OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-520 is
>configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the desktop
>XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP is
>set to "Obtain an IP...".
>
>The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default. So,
>if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is coming
>from another network or the "Alternative Configuration"
>settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell may
>be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR network.
>
>My first thought is that there is another active wireless
>network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into the
>MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
>Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same. From
>your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks but
>yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing the
>same on both the desktop and the Dell?
>
>Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
>MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a dell
>>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds the
>>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
>adapter
>>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so i
>>manually configured it for our own network,
>192.168.2.**.
>>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
>under 'other
>>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address i
>>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under that
>>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop to
>>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
>wireless
>>network(which it does find)?
>>.
>>
>.
>
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June 7, 2004 9:15:17 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

OK. "Ryan" should not be configured for Address type:
automatic private". "Ryan's" MN-520 should be configured
for "Address type: DHCP". Under "Adapter Setting", go
down to the "Configure " button. Click it, and then set
the correct SSID; select "This network includes a
router..." and if you use WEP, enter the WEP key.
Click "OK". When back on the "Adapter Settings" page, go
up and click "Renew".

You should get a DHCP assigned (private) IP. The problem
is with the adapter, not the base station. The adapter
is not accepting a DHCP assignment from what you've told
me.

I think the adapter was set previously to play games in
an ad hoc network (PC-to-PC) and never reset to be part
of the infrastructure

>-----Original Message-----
>okay, yes for all on that checklist. under tcp/ip
>settings, "obtain an ip..." is selected and
>under "alternate configuraion", "automatic private" is
>selected. i live in the ghetto type area of town where
>wireless networking in newfangled and unheard of. plus
>there are no other networks listed under "preferred
>networks", just my own under my last name.
>
>ok, on the inspiron laptop("ryan" on the network)i
checked
>the status and clicked the support tab. under internet
>protocol(tcp/ip), "address type: Automatic Private
>address". the ip address is 169.254.***.**(it changes
all
>the time). on the dimension desktop, under the same tab,
>it says "address type: Assigned by DHCP". the ip
>address is 192.168.2.18. i think that the problem is
that
>the dhcp(enabled on base station) is not giving "ryan"
an
>ip address. any more ideas? any more info needed?
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>Dear Andy,
>>
>>OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-520
is
>>configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the
desktop
>>XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP
is
>>set to "Obtain an IP...".
>>
>>The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default.
So,
>>if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is
coming
>>from another network or the "Alternative Configuration"
>>settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell
may
>>be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR network.
>>
>>My first thought is that there is another active
wireless
>>network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into
the
>>MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
>>Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same.
From
>>your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks but
>>yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing
the
>>same on both the desktop and the Dell?
>>
>>Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
>>MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>>>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a
dell
>>>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>>>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds the
>>>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
>>adapter
>>>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so i
>>>manually configured it for our own network,
>>192.168.2.**.
>>>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
>>under 'other
>>>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address
i
>>>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under
that
>>>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop to
>>>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
>>wireless
>>>network(which it does find)?
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 7, 2004 9:27:59 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Andy,

One final thing. Under "Authorization", make sure
the "enable 802.1x...." is UNCHECKED, as weel as, the
computer-to-computer ad hoc network box is also UNCHECKED.


>-----Original Message-----
>okay, yes for all on that checklist. under tcp/ip
>settings, "obtain an ip..." is selected and
>under "alternate configuraion", "automatic private" is
>selected. i live in the ghetto type area of town where
>wireless networking in newfangled and unheard of. plus
>there are no other networks listed under "preferred
>networks", just my own under my last name.
>
>ok, on the inspiron laptop("ryan" on the network)i
checked
>the status and clicked the support tab. under internet
>protocol(tcp/ip), "address type: Automatic Private
>address". the ip address is 169.254.***.**(it changes
all
>the time). on the dimension desktop, under the same tab,
>it says "address type: Assigned by DHCP". the ip
>address is 192.168.2.18. i think that the problem is
that
>the dhcp(enabled on base station) is not giving "ryan"
an
>ip address. any more ideas? any more info needed?
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>Dear Andy,
>>
>>OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-520
is
>>configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the
desktop
>>XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP
is
>>set to "Obtain an IP...".
>>
>>The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default.
So,
>>if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is
coming
>>from another network or the "Alternative Configuration"
>>settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell
may
>>be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR network.
>>
>>My first thought is that there is another active
wireless
>>network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into
the
>>MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
>>Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same.
From
>>your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks but
>>yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing
the
>>same on both the desktop and the Dell?
>>
>>Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
>>MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>>>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a
dell
>>>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>>>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds the
>>>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
>>adapter
>>>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so i
>>>manually configured it for our own network,
>>192.168.2.**.
>>>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
>>under 'other
>>>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address
i
>>>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under
that
>>>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop to
>>>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
>>wireless
>>>network(which it does find)?
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 8, 2004 1:59:42 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

ishu,

try release and renew the ip address of wireless adapter
if it show winsock error then it would be tcp/ip stack
issue


>-----Original Message-----
>
>Andy,
>
>One final thing. Under "Authorization", make sure
>the "enable 802.1x...." is UNCHECKED, as weel as, the
>computer-to-computer ad hoc network box is also
UNCHECKED.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>okay, yes for all on that checklist. under tcp/ip
>>settings, "obtain an ip..." is selected and
>>under "alternate configuraion", "automatic private" is
>>selected. i live in the ghetto type area of town where
>>wireless networking in newfangled and unheard of. plus
>>there are no other networks listed under "preferred
>>networks", just my own under my last name.
>>
>>ok, on the inspiron laptop("ryan" on the network)i
>checked
>>the status and clicked the support tab. under internet
>>protocol(tcp/ip), "address type: Automatic Private
>>address". the ip address is 169.254.***.**(it changes
>all
>>the time). on the dimension desktop, under the same
tab,
>>it says "address type: Assigned by DHCP". the ip
>>address is 192.168.2.18. i think that the problem is
>that
>>the dhcp(enabled on base station) is not giving "ryan"
>an
>>ip address. any more ideas? any more info needed?
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>Dear Andy,
>>>
>>>OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-520
>is
>>>configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the
>desktop
>>>XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP
>is
>>>set to "Obtain an IP...".
>>>
>>>The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default.
>So,
>>>if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is
>coming
>>>from another network or the "Alternative
Configuration"
>>>settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell
>may
>>>be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR
network.
>>>
>>>My first thought is that there is another active
>wireless
>>>network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into
>the
>>>MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
>>>Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same.
>From
>>>your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks but
>>>yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing
>the
>>>same on both the desktop and the Dell?
>>>
>>>Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
>>>MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>>>>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a
>dell
>>>>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>>>>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds
the
>>>>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
>>>adapter
>>>>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so
i
>>>>manually configured it for our own network,
>>>192.168.2.**.
>>>>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
>>>under 'other
>>>>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address
>i
>>>>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under
>that
>>>>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop
to
>>>>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
>>>wireless
>>>>network(which it does find)?
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
June 8, 2004 4:22:07 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

okay, ken, how would i go about resetting the adapter? i
have uninstalled the software and reinstalled it several
times and even tried to set it up the windows way w/o the
installation cd, but it no work. i have tried before to
set up an ad-hoc from "ryan" to "desktop", but it didn't
work then. so is that my problem, and if it is, how do i
fix it?

>-----Original Message-----
>
>OK. "Ryan" should not be configured for Address type:
>automatic private". "Ryan's" MN-520 should be configured
>for "Address type: DHCP". Under "Adapter Setting", go
>down to the "Configure " button. Click it, and then set
>the correct SSID; select "This network includes a
>router..." and if you use WEP, enter the WEP key.
>Click "OK". When back on the "Adapter Settings" page, go
>up and click "Renew".
>
>You should get a DHCP assigned (private) IP. The problem
>is with the adapter, not the base station. The adapter
>is not accepting a DHCP assignment from what you've told
>me.
>
>I think the adapter was set previously to play games in
>an ad hoc network (PC-to-PC) and never reset to be part
>of the infrastructure
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>okay, yes for all on that checklist. under tcp/ip
>>settings, "obtain an ip..." is selected and
>>under "alternate configuraion", "automatic private" is
>>selected. i live in the ghetto type area of town where
>>wireless networking in newfangled and unheard of. plus
>>there are no other networks listed under "preferred
>>networks", just my own under my last name.
>>
>>ok, on the inspiron laptop("ryan" on the network)i
>checked
>>the status and clicked the support tab. under internet
>>protocol(tcp/ip), "address type: Automatic Private
>>address". the ip address is 169.254.***.**(it changes
>all
>>the time). on the dimension desktop, under the same tab,
>>it says "address type: Assigned by DHCP". the ip
>>address is 192.168.2.18. i think that the problem is
>that
>>the dhcp(enabled on base station) is not giving "ryan"
>an
>>ip address. any more ideas? any more info needed?
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>Dear Andy,
>>>
>>>OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-520
>is
>>>configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the
>desktop
>>>XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP
>is
>>>set to "Obtain an IP...".
>>>
>>>The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default.
>So,
>>>if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is
>coming
>>>from another network or the "Alternative Configuration"
>>>settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell
>may
>>>be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR network.
>>>
>>>My first thought is that there is another active
>wireless
>>>network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into
>the
>>>MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
>>>Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same.
>From
>>>your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks but
>>>yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing
>the
>>>same on both the desktop and the Dell?
>>>
>>>Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
>>>MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>>>>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a
>dell
>>>>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>>>>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds the
>>>>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
>>>adapter
>>>>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so i
>>>>manually configured it for our own network,
>>>192.168.2.**.
>>>>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
>>>under 'other
>>>>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip address
>i
>>>>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under
>that
>>>>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop to
>>>>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
>>>wireless
>>>>network(which it does find)?
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
June 8, 2004 7:32:59 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Andy,

The 169.254.xx.xx IP you see on the laptop is a private,
automatic IP that Windows assigns the adapter if it
cannot find a DHCP server on the network. So, the laptop
is not seeing - or looking for - the DHCP server/base
station.

My thinking was it was not looking for the DHCP server
because one of its network configurations is ad-hoc. This
seemd to be confirmed by your assigning an IP to the
adapter and it showing up on the desktop, yet the laptop
was unable to connect to the base station. All computer-
to-computer; ad-hoc setups should be disabled. In the
Wireless Network Settings, there is a tiny box at the
bottom of the panel, below the WEP key boxes. Make sure
its uncheck. Hmmm.

Another possiblility was that an 802.11x authentication
box is checked in the configuration, so it can't connect
to the DHCP server. Of course, this should be unchecked.

Sorry, but try a re-intall of the MN-520. Unplug the MN-
520 and any other network adapters. Re-boot the laptop.
Make sure the laptop does not find a network adapter.
Check your configurations, even remove previous wireless
connections. Shutdown the laptop. Now, plug in the MN-
520. Startup the laptop. Insert the Setup CD and run it
to install a "new" product - the MN-520.






>-----Original Message-----
>okay, ken, how would i go about resetting the adapter? i
>have uninstalled the software and reinstalled it several
>times and even tried to set it up the windows way w/o
the
>installation cd, but it no work. i have tried before to
>set up an ad-hoc from "ryan" to "desktop", but it didn't
>work then. so is that my problem, and if it is, how do i
>fix it?
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>OK. "Ryan" should not be configured for Address type:
>>automatic private". "Ryan's" MN-520 should be
configured
>>for "Address type: DHCP". Under "Adapter Setting", go
>>down to the "Configure " button. Click it, and then
set
>>the correct SSID; select "This network includes a
>>router..." and if you use WEP, enter the WEP key.
>>Click "OK". When back on the "Adapter Settings" page,
go
>>up and click "Renew".
>>
>>You should get a DHCP assigned (private) IP. The
problem
>>is with the adapter, not the base station. The adapter
>>is not accepting a DHCP assignment from what you've
told
>>me.
>>
>>I think the adapter was set previously to play games in
>>an ad hoc network (PC-to-PC) and never reset to be part
>>of the infrastructure
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>okay, yes for all on that checklist. under tcp/ip
>>>settings, "obtain an ip..." is selected and
>>>under "alternate configuraion", "automatic private" is
>>>selected. i live in the ghetto type area of town where
>>>wireless networking in newfangled and unheard of. plus
>>>there are no other networks listed under "preferred
>>>networks", just my own under my last name.
>>>
>>>ok, on the inspiron laptop("ryan" on the network)i
>>checked
>>>the status and clicked the support tab. under internet
>>>protocol(tcp/ip), "address type: Automatic
Private
>>>address". the ip address is 169.254.***.**(it changes
>>all
>>>the time). on the dimension desktop, under the same
tab,
>>>it says "address type: Assigned by DHCP". the ip
>>>address is 192.168.2.18. i think that the problem is
>>that
>>>the dhcp(enabled on base station) is not giving "ryan"
>>an
>>>ip address. any more ideas? any more info needed?
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>Dear Andy,
>>>>
>>>>OK, I'll assume you checked the obvious: (1)The MN-
520
>>is
>>>>configured with the same SSID and WEP key as the
>>desktop
>>>>XP and MN-500 base station, and (2) The Dell's TCP/IP
>>is
>>>>set to "Obtain an IP...".
>>>>
>>>>The MN-500 will NOT assign a public IP, by default.
>>So,
>>>>if there IS a public IP for the MN-520/Dell it is
>>coming
>>>>from another network or the "Alternative
Configuration"
>>>>settings of the Dell's Network connections. The Dell
>>may
>>>>be finding a network...but not necessarily YOUR
network.
>>>>
>>>>My first thought is that there is another active
>>wireless
>>>>network nearby. So, close down all firewalls. Go into
>>the
>>>>MBNU on the desktop, look under "Tools"; "Adapter
>>>>Setting". Then go into the Dell's and do the same.
>>From
>>>>your "Preferred Networks" list remove all networks
but
>>>>yours. Check the Connection to it. Are the listing
>>the
>>>>same on both the desktop and the Dell?
>>>>
>>>>Since the Dell's IP that you set is showing up in the
>>>>MBNU, its getting a lease on the network.
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>i have a dell desktop running xp with mn 510 working
>>>>>properly on a mn 500 base station. my brother has a
>>dell
>>>>>laptop with xp with mn520 that used to work on our
>>>>>network. recently, i discovered that the 520 finds
the
>>>>>network, but fails to locate the base station. the
>>>>adapter
>>>>>always gets a public ip 169.254.***.**(whatever), so
i
>>>>>manually configured it for our own network,
>>>>192.168.2.**.
>>>>>alright, now the desktop, in network utility,
>>>>under 'other
>>>>>network devices, i see the laptop with the ip
address
>>i
>>>>>just set. but on the laptop, there is nothing under
>>that
>>>>>category. can someone explain how to get the laptop
to
>>>>>recognize the router(10 feet away) as well as the
>>>>wireless
>>>>>network(which it does find)?
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
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