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August 3, 2003 7:41:54 PM

Which major, quality memory module manufacturers use Samsung and/or Winbond chips on their memory sticks? I'm looking for 512MB sticks in matched pairs - for use with the Asus P4P800 mainboard (Intel 865PE Chipset). PC3200 or PC3500 - DDR400 or DDR433?
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<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 4, 2003 1:33:24 AM

i;m not quite sure, but samsung memory are expensive and i think both memory makers are good. But i think samsung is better
August 4, 2003 2:05:03 AM

off the top of my head...kingston corsair and twinmos are the manufactueres who use winbounds...there are probably many more...

About samsung...i really don't know..

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz... :cool:
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August 4, 2003 2:21:26 AM

Add OCZ to the list. Looks like ya have several to choose from.

<b><font color=blue>Logic over all.</font color=blue></b>
August 4, 2003 3:48:49 AM

Crucial was contracting out about six months ago to Samsung. Don't know if they're still doing it.
-Brett
August 4, 2003 6:21:43 AM

what do you mean contracting out? Do you mean micron was making memory for samsung?

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz... :cool:
August 4, 2003 12:27:49 PM

Do you have a specific product # or spec for OCZ? I recall reading some negative quality posts about OCZ not that long ago. In the AnandTech review - an OCZ "beta" was used - I like modules that I can actually see and buy.

<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 4, 2003 1:52:26 PM

Samsung is the worst memory on the planet. Why would you call it quality? The failure rate on Samsung chips is probably the highest in the industry. Almost Every memory chip I replaced in company computers in the last 10 years was Samsung memory. And it doesn't overclock either.

Now the funny thing about the question is that you can go right to ASUS's web page, and as soon as you click on this motherboard under products.... sha-blam! WOW! It has a memory matrix that answers all of the questions you asked!! Hot Damn! Can you believe that!
August 4, 2003 3:31:15 PM

Actually - that's contrary to what I've read from other users. Samsung has always rated high - but I can tell you know more than anyone else. As for the vendor list - it's imcomplete. I'm looking for user advice as to sticks that use those 2 chips - but thanks for your (sarcastic) reply. Have a nice day, stranger.



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 4, 2003 3:47:33 PM

According to a recent <A HREF="http://www.lostcircuits.com/memory/ocz3700/4.shtml" target="_new">LostCircuits OCZ PC3700 EL DDR Gold Dual-Channel Memory Review</A>, despite what is claimed OCZ does not manufacture memory chips. For example, it was revealed in the review that the said memory module uses Samsung memory:
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We have read it over and over, OCZ is using their own Enhanced Latency 4 ns memory chips. Truth is that OCZ does not manufacture memory chips, rather, the original markings are blasted off using a CO2 laser and the discreets are then laser-remarked to sport the OCZ label with the -40 (4 ns) rating. It takes a flashlight shining obliquely on the surface, though, to bring out the original markings: K4H280838E-TCB3 where

K4: <b>Samsung</b>

With respect to OCZ, i don't have enough information (mainly springdale compatibility information) to determine which PC3200 or PC3500 512MB memory module would be recommendable in this case. I'm also not 100 percent sure if these OCZ PC3200/PC3500 512MB memory modules use samsung or winbond.

<b><font color=blue>Logic over all.</font color=blue></b>
August 4, 2003 4:35:28 PM

Sorry, bad terminology. Samsung was making chips for the Crucial label. Don't know what the problem was there, if Micron was laying off at the time or what, but I got a stick of PC2700 that had both Crucial and Samsung labels on it. After e-mailing Crucial back and forth a few times, they finally sent me an official statement that said, in a nutshell, that Crucial would buy chips from other manufacturers on occasion when demand outstripped their current supply and inventory.
-Brett

>what do you mean contracting out? Do you mean micron was making memory for samsung?<
August 4, 2003 4:39:41 PM

I've read several "shaddy" reviews of OCZ - knowing little else, I would shy away from them if possible.

As for Samsung, their chips (256 & 512MB) are the only full line I noticed that <A HREF="http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-d/over..." target="_new">Asus</A> "qualifies" to run with a single stick, 2 sticks DDR and 4 sticks in DDR. After looking at Samsungs site - seemed to me that they made chips for other vendors to build their modules with.

The previous poster who damned Samsung was the 1st negative I've read. Hell, he may be right - but I don't know.



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 4, 2003 5:05:12 PM

By searching the <A HREF="http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/" target="_new">Mushkin forum</A>, i've found that Mushkin Level 1 uses Winbond CH-5 and Level 2 uses Winbond BH-5.

<b><font color=blue>Logic over all.</font color=blue></b>
August 4, 2003 5:12:19 PM

Interesting - I've read that there are only 4 memory chip makers worldwide - so all these memory vendors are buying chips from the 4. This is one of the more confusing topics I tried to ferret out.
I mean every vendor claims the fastest and greatest and most stable, etc - but everybody can't be best. It's an interesting topic.



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 4, 2003 5:15:34 PM

Yeah, this is quite interesting. Difficult to find out which memory module has what chips.

The Cheapest place I can find with a 512MB memory module with guaranteed winbond is <A HREF="http://memoryx.net/gn512pc3200.html" target="_new">MemoryX.net</A>.

<b><font color=blue>Logic over all.</font color=blue></b>
August 4, 2003 5:54:22 PM

I've heard decent things about Twinmos sticks - but mostly in European forums. Haven't seen too many posters chatting them up here at Tom's.



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 4, 2003 11:51:37 PM

Did you notice if they can be had as "matched sets"?



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 5, 2003 2:31:46 AM

Only place I can find TwinMos with winbond is memoryx. And it appears they only have individual sticks.

<b><font color=blue>Logic over all.</font color=blue></b>
August 5, 2003 2:54:07 AM

hmm...

winbound
micorn
samsung
hayundai(sp?)
hynx (sp?)
winbound
NEC (not possitive but i am pretty sure they make mem)

Those are what i can think of from the top of my head...definitly more than 4...but really not too many...


If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:
August 5, 2003 3:15:29 AM

So - given that list - any recommendation - (4x512) - 4 dimms of 512 according to <A HREF="http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-d/over..." target="_new">Asus qualified list</A>?

4 DIMM'S - 2 Gig possibility? (note the 3 columns ...)



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 5, 2003 3:29:51 AM

ooo...

I cannot beleive i forgot infineon...i am using infineon chips right now!

I would go for corsair or twin mos...



If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:
August 5, 2003 3:31:54 AM

Corsair - not recommended for 512 MB for 4 sticks.



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 5, 2003 3:32:56 AM

But why would you wana use 2gb of ram...

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:
August 5, 2003 3:41:34 AM

Corsair is validated for 2x512 (1 gig) - if I want 2 gigs, damn it - I want 2 gigs. It's a question - not a friggin debate ...



<b><font color=red>I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky ... - Bill "Cigar Man" Clinton</font color=red><b>
August 5, 2003 5:25:22 AM

ok 2gb it is...if it is validated go for twin moss...

If not then find the lowest latency validated memory you can find...

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:
August 5, 2003 11:53:27 PM

Micron bought Hynix a little over a year ago, so scratch that one off, too.
-Brett
August 6, 2003 11:45:36 PM

Well about the OCZ - say what you will about the quality or whatever but i CAN vouch for their customer service - multiple email replies in a SINGLE day.

Intel P4 2.4C @ ???, ABIT IS7, Stock Intel HSF, 2x Kingston HyperX PC3000 256MB, Radeon 9700Pro
August 6, 2003 11:58:36 PM

they don't have a good past but looks like they may be shapping up...

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:
August 8, 2003 1:37:18 PM

Sorry to appear to beat a dead horse, but I wanted to revisit this posters flame regarding Samsung memory chips.

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Samsung is the worst memory on the planet. Why would you call it quality? The failure rate on Samsung chips is probably the highest in the industry. Almost Every memory chip I replaced in company computers in the last 10 years was Samsung memory. And it doesn't overclock either.

Now this from todays <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1843" target="_new">AnandTech Review of OCZ 3700 Gold memory modules</A>.

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One of the first memory modules to reach stable DDR500 performance levels was OCZ 3700 GOLD. Many of us at AnandTech have been impressed with the performance levels and timings we have seen with this memory. We were a bit surprised, therefore, when we learned that this memory was reportedly achieving these performance levels using Samsung TCB3 memory modules.

And more ...
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We already knew that the Crucial DIMMs using Samsung chips were outstanding performers ...

This really does fly in the face of "Ionmax's" comments ... what was that strangers real purpose with that post ...







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