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I read all the threads commenting on and comparing the various CF
recorders - Edirol R-1, Marantz pmd670/660, PMAudio, etc. The users
are using the various units for field recording.

I am looking for a stand-alone digital recorder with built-in mics to
record my guitar practice sessions and to record pieces to ensure they
are ready for performance or ABRSM exams. I am leaning toward the
Edirol R-1 since it seems the most compact unit for my uses. I have
two Rode NT3 condensor mics and an M-Audio AudioBuddy preamp so I use
external mics to the line-in. (I have successfully recorded with the
mics/preamp to the Line-in of an iRiver 890 mp3 player without
distortion, noise or hiss.)

I ruled out recording to computers long ago but plan to upload to a
computer for any future editing.

Anybody have other advice?

Ed S.

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edspyhill01@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I am looking for a stand-alone digital recorder with built-in mics to
> record my guitar practice sessions and to record pieces to ensure they
> are ready for performance or ABRSM exams.

The R-1 is perfect for this.

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Kurt,

Thank you.

Ed S.

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In article <1121801970.141629.239590@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> edspyhill01@yahoo.com writes:

> I read all the threads commenting on and comparing the various CF
> recorders - Edirol R-1, Marantz pmd670/660, PMAudio, etc. The users
> are using the various units for field recording.

Perhaps that's because that's the best application for a compact,
portable recorder that has limited storage capacity.

> I am looking for a stand-alone digital recorder with built-in mics to
> record my guitar practice sessions and to record pieces to ensure they
> are ready for performance or ABRSM exams. I am leaning toward the
> Edirol R-1 since it seems the most compact unit for my uses.

You have essentially a field recording situation there (even though
the "field" might be in your own home). There's no reason why the R1
wouldn't work fairly well for that. Most

> I have
> two Rode NT3 condensor mics and an M-Audio AudioBuddy preamp so I use
> external mics to the line-in.

Then why do you care about built-in mics? Now you're getting into the
"studio" kind of setting.

> Anybody have other advice?

Keep it simple. Spend more time playing your guitar than worrying
about how to record it, particularly when what you're doing is
recording and analyzing your practice sessions. Don't worry about the
best audio quality, look for the one that's easiest for you to
operate - biggest buttons, fewest menus.

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Mike,

Thank you for your reply and advice. I want to just hit one On/Off
button and record whole practice sessions. This way I don't have to
fiddle with mic switches, checking preamp levels. I prefer not to
leave the mics, mic stands, and preamp all setup in the small room I
use. The room is used as my computer work room and guitar/music room so
it is cramped. Plus, all that stuff collects dust. I just painted the
room and I'm adding new cabinets for better storage.

Your point to keep it simple is well taken. I always have to remind
myself that guitar is my focus, not becoming a recording/editing
wizard.

Ed S.

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On 19 Jul 2005 12:39:30 -0700, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com"
<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am looking for a stand-alone digital recorder with built-in mics to
>record my guitar practice sessions and to record pieces to ensure they
>are ready for performance or ABRSM exams. I am leaning toward the
>Edirol R-1 since it seems the most compact unit for my uses. I have
>two Rode NT3 condensor mics and an M-Audio AudioBuddy preamp so I use
>external mics to the line-in.

The R-1 uses some fairly decent electret microphones. Provided you
keep the R-1 relatively close to your instrument, you should get a
reasonably clean and transparent recording.

Of course, if you want to set up the Rodes, more power to ya. But I've
always felt a little less edgy when I can play without microphones
pointed at my instrument (it's as if they are saying, "We're
listening! Don't screw up!" ).

But that's just me.

- TR

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Ted,

Thanks. I'm the same way. Those mics look huge pointing at me and my
guitar. I ordered an R-1 last night and it should be here maybe
Friday.

Ed S.

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:33:06 -0400, edspyhill01@yahoo.com wrote
(in article <1121830386.613440.76650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> ):

> Mike,
>
> Thank you for your reply and advice. I want to just hit one On/Off
> button and record whole practice sessions. This way I don't have to
> fiddle with mic switches, checking preamp levels. I prefer not to
> leave the mics, mic stands, and preamp all setup in the small room I
> use. The room is used as my computer work room and guitar/music room so
> it is cramped. Plus, all that stuff collects dust. I just painted the
> room and I'm adding new cabinets for better storage.
>
> Your point to keep it simple is well taken. I always have to remind
> myself that guitar is my focus, not becoming a recording/editing
> wizard.
>
> Ed S.
>

And to that end, I suggest the line of Olympus personal digital voice
recorders. From $79 up to $250, they are internal storage compressed audio
devices. Some have USB holsters that let you import to computer and record to
CD.

Also the AEQ DR 100 at $699. Internal or chip memory. MP2 or MP3. line
in/out, external mic in/out. on board editing and FM tuner (Woo woo!) in a
1.5' x 4.5" thingee.

No Linear PCM, but the R-1 is what, $1500 +/-?

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:09:05 -0400, Citizen Ted wrote
(in article <fsmrd11etg0bu8k4hqo921ldf8lblitq7q@4ax.com> ):

> On 19 Jul 2005 12:39:30 -0700, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com"
> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a stand-alone digital recorder with built-in mics to
>> record my guitar practice sessions and to record pieces to ensure they
>> are ready for performance or ABRSM exams. I am leaning toward the
>> Edirol R-1 since it seems the most compact unit for my uses. I have
>> two Rode NT3 condensor mics and an M-Audio AudioBuddy preamp so I use
>> external mics to the line-in.
>
> The R-1 uses some fairly decent electret microphones. Provided you
> keep the R-1 relatively close to your instrument, you should get a
> reasonably clean and transparent recording.
>
> Of course, if you want to set up the Rodes, more power to ya. But I've
> always felt a little less edgy when I can play without microphones
> pointed at my instrument (it's as if they are saying, "We're
> listening! Don't screw up!" ).
>
> But that's just me.
>
> - TR

Hmm. Know what? It's a really good idea to put yourself through that exercise
until the angst goes away. Helps with taking the nasty buzz of when playing
live.

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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Ty,

Thanks. The R-1 is $420 at Audiomidi (http://www.audiomidi.com/) and
he actually has a few in stock. The R-4 is $1500, I think. I like the
..wav format capability and 24 bit sampling of the R-1.

Ed S.

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Ty,

You are right about getting over the angst of performing. I'm planning
to perform 2 pieces at each monthly Philadelphia Classical Guitar
Society salon when they start up in September. I find I loose about
30% of memory and playing ability in front of people. But it is an
incredible rush that lasts for hours.

Ed S.

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In article <-OydnSneW9sKzkPfRVn-hQ@comcast.com> tyreeford@comcast.net writes:

> No Linear PCM, but the R-1 is what, $1500 +/-?

The R-4 is around $1500. The R-1 is under $500, and it does have a
linear PCM mode as well as various flavors of MP3.


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