Radeon or NVIDIA? I have always owned NVIDIA and have liked them alot but I am trying to find a Laptop for under $1600 and alot of laptops have Radeon's but I just don't know enough on them or what are good and bad, or if I should just stick to NVIDIA. I am going to use this Laptop for playing WoW and I am currently over in Afghanistan and will be for another 2 months so I will be looking for a computer then, any help on a computer to get, what to look for or some info on Radeon vs NVIDIA would be really appreciated. Sorry if this is confusing but not alot of time to type all my questions out LOL.
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Right now ATi's mobile cards are outperformed by Nvidia's. The X1600 is a weak performer and is easily beat by the go 7600 or even Asus' go 7700. The highest Ati gets is the X1800 in laptops which is beaten by laptops with go 7900's and go 7950's.
I recommend that if you have to get a laptop when you return from overseas that you go with Nvidia. (they may cost a little more, but will perform better)
If you can stand to wait a little longer, hold off until the summer when mobile versions of DX10 cards will be available. (keep you from needing to upgrade twice just to play DX10 games, if gaming is what you are interested in.)
Asus A8J this is a pretty good deal for Nvidia route
Asus F3J as is this for ATi
I recommend that if you have to get a laptop when you return from overseas that you go with Nvidia. (they may cost a little more, but will perform better)
If you can stand to wait a little longer, hold off until the summer when mobile versions of DX10 cards will be available. (keep you from needing to upgrade twice just to play DX10 games, if gaming is what you are interested in.)
Asus A8J this is a pretty good deal for Nvidia route
Asus F3J as is this for ATi
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I disagree that at the mid-range level nVidia is a superior performer.
That is my opinion, and I have them both (not playing favorites here)
So, if you want a quick and dirty way to compare some of the aspects of the cards easily, check out the Mobile GPU Comparison Chart.
That is my opinion, and I have them both (not playing favorites here)
So, if you want a quick and dirty way to compare some of the aspects of the cards easily, check out the Mobile GPU Comparison Chart.
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Unless nVidia can get their heat and power consumption for these mobile GPU's under control, ATI may be able to make some headway in the higher end market... that is, if they ever get the cards out.
Now that AMD owns them, they seem more interested in changing the name of everything then making moves on the street.
Now that AMD owns them, they seem more interested in changing the name of everything then making moves on the street.
KillerNotebooks,
can you help me out and let me know what would be the best Laptop build I can do for Playing World of Warcraft for under $2000? I am having a hell of a time figuring this out and to tell you the truth, I don't have the greatest knowledge on this, I am learning but still need help.
can you help me out and let me know what would be the best Laptop build I can do for Playing World of Warcraft for under $2000? I am having a hell of a time figuring this out and to tell you the truth, I don't have the greatest knowledge on this, I am learning but still need help.
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Yeah, this seems a little weird to me. ATi hasn't so much as mentioned a mobile gpu since the 1800 was released. At least no info has reached my ears. Which is strange since their high-end desktop gpu's like the 1950 are better than Nvidia's(G80 excluded). We'll have to see what 07 brings us.
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If you want to go with Killer Notebooks, both the Kodachi and Wakizachi would be good choices. Both provide strong performance for around 1800 when configured like I would get them. Personally I would go with the Wakizachi because of its larger screen and higher resolution.
(that is, if I could convince my parents to buy my college laptop from Killer Notebooks. Hate to say this but my parents are paranoid and think his company is a scam. I disagree with their view and trust the company.)
(that is, if I could convince my parents to buy my college laptop from Killer Notebooks. Hate to say this but my parents are paranoid and think his company is a scam. I disagree with their view and trust the company.)
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With WoW, what setting do you want to play it at, and at what resolution?
I know WoW also requires vast amounts of RAM for online play.
I know WoW also requires vast amounts of RAM for online play.
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Really? The highest I've seen is the 1800. What laptop has the 1900? Link if you would.
Edit: never mind. Just saw it on ATi's/AMD's website.
I would like to play at the highest possible settings I could get with a laptop for $2000 or less, and the resolution I would like to have at 1680 x 1050 or better also depends on price. I was told for laptops to look at Graphics card first, then Ram (which I will want to get at least 1 if not 2gb) then Processor in that order, is that correct?
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Ok maybe you can help me Asus- Intel® Centrino® 2 Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile 2.0GHz WXGA widescreen with 1366 x 768 resolution 15.6" 1066MHz 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM Serial ATA (7200 rpm 320GB Double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 Built-in 10/100 Mbps Ethernet LAN with RJ-45 connector VS Dell Studio XPS 16 XPS 1640, Intel Core 2 Duo P8700(2.53GHz/1066Mhz FSB/3M L2 Cache) 4GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz 2 Dimm forXPS 1640 16.0 inch Wide Screen 16:9 1080p FullHD RGBLED LCD W/2.0 MP, XPS 1640 ATI Mobility RADEON M96XT - 1GB 500GB 7200RPM Free Fall SensorSeagate Hard Drive BluRay Combo Drive PowerDVD DX 8.1 Bluray Playback, True Theatre High Definition Integrated High Definition Audio 2.2 Intel Centrino 2. I'm not very good at this so if i left something out pls let me know. I have to buy one of then no latter then wensday.
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It depends on what you are planning on doing with the laptop. If you are looking for pure gaming performance, the Asus with the GTX260 will be the better option despite the weaker CPU. If you only want to do some medium gaming and just want general performance, the Dell may be the better choice. The P8700 will be a better choice if you are going to be doing other intensive things aside from games.
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I play world of warcraft on and off I have 3 kids so would live to do things with pics. also like games like call of duty and fear, Crysis and other high end games.
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Take a look at this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
Scroll down to the 4650 and check the COD4 and Crysis numbers. The 4650 isn't going to be the best, but it will certainly play Crysis at Medium settings.
If the Asus had a better CPU, I feel that it would be the no brainer choice. The Dell just seems to be a more well rounded system.
Scroll down to the 4650 and check the COD4 and Crysis numbers. The 4650 isn't going to be the best, but it will certainly play Crysis at Medium settings.
If the Asus had a better CPU, I feel that it would be the no brainer choice. The Dell just seems to be a more well rounded system.
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I'd wait to see if anyone adds some input here, but I feel that since you have some other things you want to do other than gaming, the P8700 in the Dell would be preferable.
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I have a similar question. I’m looking at the following two systems:
Dell Studio XPS 16 with Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 (6MB cache/2.8GHz), 6GB DDR3 RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4670 – 1GB, HDD 320 GB 7200RPM
Asus G51Vx-A1 with Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 (6MB cache/2.0GHz), 4GM DDR2 RAM, GeForce GTX 260M – 1GB GDDR3, HDD 640GB 7200RPM
Both systems with the specs above have the same price. I can’t decide which system is more powerful and will perform better during gaming and other system intensive applications. Dell for one seems to have a better CPU 2.8Ghz 28% faster processor even though Asus has quad core. DDR3 is also 22% faster then DDR2 of Asus, Dell also comes out having 2GB more RAM on the other hand G51 has 30% more productive video card 260M is the generation above ATI 4650. My question is: would the more powerful CPU and larger, faster RAM of Dell increase the performance of a system to a level where it can easily compete with G51’s GTX 260M card even when playing video games?
Dell Studio XPS 16 with Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 (6MB cache/2.8GHz), 6GB DDR3 RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4670 – 1GB, HDD 320 GB 7200RPM
Asus G51Vx-A1 with Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 (6MB cache/2.0GHz), 4GM DDR2 RAM, GeForce GTX 260M – 1GB GDDR3, HDD 640GB 7200RPM
Both systems with the specs above have the same price. I can’t decide which system is more powerful and will perform better during gaming and other system intensive applications. Dell for one seems to have a better CPU 2.8Ghz 28% faster processor even though Asus has quad core. DDR3 is also 22% faster then DDR2 of Asus, Dell also comes out having 2GB more RAM on the other hand G51 has 30% more productive video card 260M is the generation above ATI 4650. My question is: would the more powerful CPU and larger, faster RAM of Dell increase the performance of a system to a level where it can easily compete with G51’s GTX 260M card even when playing video games?
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