Subwoofer Ideas for NS-10m's

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Matrixmusic <kevindoylemusic@rogers.com> wrote:
>Looking for a sub from $300-500.
>Any suggestions?

No. Using a subwoofer defeats the whole point of the NS-10s. If you want
low end, you want a different monitor.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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On 1 Aug 2005 14:07:18 -0700, "Matrixmusic"
<kevindoylemusic@rogers.com> wrote:

>Looking for a sub from $300-500.
>Any suggestions?


No point. That isn't what NS-10s are for.

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> Matrixmusic wrote:
> > Looking for a sub from $300-500.
> > Any suggestions?
> > kevin
>
> I recently purchased the Tapco 12" sub for use in my monitoring setup.
> I have it so it can be used with my Tannoy Reveal Passives or my JBL
> 4410's. It is also set up to bypass and use those monitors without a
> sub. When used with the Tannoys and crossed over at the desired
> frequency, it clears out some of the 200 Hz and still delivers the rest
> of the spectrum. I tend to not include enough low end when using the
> Tannoys alone because they are so thick in that range and this gives me
> a little more clarity and just a different picture. I am also getting
> some very low frequencies when used in conjunction with the JBL's that
> I can't get from them by themselves.
>
> With due respect to the veteran engineers who are purist about using
> subs, any monitor setup is only as right or wrong as your ability to
> mix for a wide variety of listening situations. If you get used to what
> it sounds like and how it translates to other systems, I believe it can
> be a useful tool. I believe the idea that you can't use a sub with
> nearfields is close-minded. I work ocasionally for a veteran engineer
> here in Nashville who uses the Blue Sky 2.1 monitoring system. I was
> knocked out by it the first time I heard it and that convinced me to
> "go against the grain". I am pleased with my results and feel as though
> I have options that I did not have before and hear things I did not
> hear before incorporating the sub.


It's not about being a purist and the idea is not that you can't use a sub
with nearfields. By adding a subwoofer you gain bass extension, but you also
definitely lose the reference, which in case of the NS10s, being their only
real advantage, happens to be a serious problem.

Predrag

Predrag

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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:47:47 -0400, david <ihate@spamo.com> wrote:

>Scott's always there to delivers his jihad of ns10's. I actually live
>with them and love em. Yesterday I was recording a very famous person
>using them along with our big monitors. And I just heard from the
>client, now with the PT files in Flordia, this evening about happy they
>are with the result. So there!!

Fine. You're using them for the intended purpose. If a mix sounds
good on NS-10s it's a long way toward sounding good on anything. But
they aren't your only monitors.

I worry about the home studios who reason "Every pro studio has
NS-10s. So they must be good. I'll have them as my main monitors."

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david <ihate@spamo.com> wrote:
>
>Scott's always there to delivers his jihad of ns10's. I actually live
>with them and love em. Yesterday I was recording a very famous person
>using them along with our big monitors. And I just heard from the
>client, now with the PT files in Flordia, this evening about happy they
>are with the result. So there!! ;>
>
>Maybe one day an ns10 fell off a console bridge while Scott was working
>underneath it, and it landed on his head and gave him this huge bump
>and he's never forgotten or forgiven them to this day. But I do agree
>about adding a subwoofer to it. It works quite well the way it is.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing... I'm just saying it's not a full range
monitor, and it was never meant to be.

I know folks who mix exclusively on the things and get good results. I
also know folks who mix exclusively on them and get recordings with no
midrange because they haven't learned to compensate for them.

>My two posts today were standing up for 57's and ns10's. Is Nothing
>Sacred?? ;>

Both the SM-57 and the NS-10 are useful. The reason people bash them is
when people try to use them for things that they aren't useful for.
--scott


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I haven't been doing audio for 20 years, I am still a rookie.
kevin