Condolences to all victims in school massacre.

This is one of those topics that I didn't want to post. I think we have a serious problem in this world where certain people have lost their sense of humanity. Some will call it a clash of civilizations.

They denied them food, water, or medicine. They watched as they drank their own urine and passed out from the heat. They let the dead bodies rot in the sweltering sun. They shot the kids in the back as they tried to run away. They bombed the place. They rounded up the wounded and shot them dead. They rounded up the men and blew themselves up amoung them to kill them. They intended to start a war.

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The current war is not about Humanity. If it starts in your back yard the only ones that will care are the ones directly violated by it.

The governments in this mess need the natural resources to keep their country's running. All the Rebel this and Terrorist that's are not going to make any difference in how the U.S England and Canada run this war.

You or I could be on a plane or train tomorrow that gets wacked it makes no difference to the outcome of the next 100 years.

I would love to simply love and abolish hate and racism as they are totally destructive but yet again those values have no bearing in the slightest as to what this current war is about.

Every single terrorist gang bang simply adds more fuel to the ones in real power to slap around another small country and take what they have.

The terrorists are self defeatist and apparently don't realize they are bringing down their own house of cards.

After 911 wiser heads prevailed in Ireland the IRA saw what a waste of fuccking time terrorist acts are and for the first time since WWI they closed up shop and gave up on a worthless cause.

Terrorism is simply based on hatred by individuals who will themselves die of either a bullet to the brain or old age in any case their Beef just like Hitler's will die.

Way to many self important motherfuckers in the world. In china you are given a job on your skills and that's it. Shut your PIE hole. That is a communist country but you don't get Managers working as Managers just because they can talk Bullshit they actually need to know what they are doing.

People around North America are going to have to take their hands off their eye's and realize what is going on around them you can sugar coat an ant hill all you want to they will simply eat their way through it. Thousands will die and thousands wont even know or understand what and why they died but it's going to happen and no one is safe.

If the Brits walked around in WWII thinking Hitler was going to walk into England and throw a party they would be extinct and not even around any more. Crab a clue lads.

Way to many 70's kids around today that grew up on Microwave ovens and pizza pockets. They don't have any memory of what their parents went through in WWII and they have never wanted for anything their whole life they think everything they own is a God given right. Apparently their little world is going to get real nasty before they learn what real truths are.

Better get your Band-Aids out kids. Dying time is here............

My condolences to the Russian mothers who lost their children for all the good it will do any of us.

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Amen

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The people that cheered when the towers came down, cheered for the destruction of a symbol. The fact that thousands of people, including children, died in that collapse is obscured to them because of blind hatred towards the United States. I do not want to justify that or even condone such behavior but I have some understanding of the short sightedness of these people. This is ultimo even the reasoning of the terrorist who wanted to make their point, committed suicide and were even willing to take thousands of innocent people with them into death. Mind boggling, sure, but even in their darkest moments, those terrorists were not targeting children.

In the case we are now discussing, the children <b>are</b> the symbol. What sick mind can think this up? These terrorists were among hundreds of children, living children, scared to death, dehydrating, and these people managed to see those children that they could touch and smell, as symbols, as things you can waste for a higher good. I'm getting real furious and teary eyed just typing this. If it is brainwashing that does this, then we're all seriously flawed, at least those people susceptible to brainwashing, and I think most of us actually are.


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What kind of person can believe that they will earn his/her afterlife over the heads of children? Even if my children were at that school, and they would have been killed, even then I would not go out to the children of those terrorists and kill them.

I saw on tv that they found a wife and 5 kids of one of the terrorists even before hell broke loose, and interviewed her where she's pleading not to kill any children. Whether she was held at gunpoint the program did not show and of course she was under enormous pressure but even then I sincerely hope that they leave these children out of it. Hopefully they will never learn the truth about their father either (fat chance, their lives are also ruined).

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Truly a sad event. The more it happens in different countries, the more you know anyone's next.

The people cheering though, bah... they're depressing, they're the people who don't even have a goal and never will, except wanting the deaths of others.

Maybe BigMac's right about the symbol being their target. But children as symbols...wow.

Don't hold anger at Muslims in general though, trust me, it's only those idiots who were brainwashed who think this way. Some school bud's a Christian and holds terrorist values, ya know? He hates America and enjoys anything related to terrorism. It's amazing how anyone can enjoy what is happening. Besides, they're the Arabs which give us Arabs a bad name. I wouldn't even look at them as humans, let alone real Arabs.

400 dead though, that is just brutal. And it happened in a small town. Places you wouldn't suspect. I hope to see a real reaction by the Russian government, to this.

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We could carpet bomb them some more.

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Or we could just carpet bomb them. Fire bomb them.

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Thousands? I was talking tens of millions.

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I don't know if it's an urban legend or not, and I've never bothered to look it up, but wasn't the neutron bomb some crazy bomb that was so powerfull they couldn't even test it?

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Doesn't neutron bomb just kill living organism, and leaves everything else unharmed for you to rob?

Naw, it was a high-tech version of a <b>very dirty bomb</b> ... essentially the purpose was to be to kill as many people as possible without destroying everything else ... buildings, infrastructure, etc ... it came up while Carter was President and he was horrified by the notion of a bomb that inflicts mass casualties without destroying the cities ... He killed the idea/program before the Defense Dept got going on it.

But, if you could take out the terrorists ... and leave the oilfields intact ... just a thought, a sick thought, but a thought anyways ...





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scott, don't let such things influence your way of thinking about a faith. i have read much of the Koran and some of the Bible aside from our own book, The Holy Book.

it is wrong for a person to point guilt when that person has limited knowledge. its obvious you don't know enough about the Muslim faith, so how could you dislike Muslims?

all you need to do is read the Koran and you will see that it is the people who are to be blamed. this false notion going around in America, the continent, is not only hurting Muslims, but Americans too. i have read the book and i can assure you the Muslim faith supports not a single act these terrorist commit, let alone terrorists themselves.

if you like reading, you will actually enjoy the Koran and i promise you will not regret it. just make sure you read it with a pure heart and not the book of terrorists. <i>expand your horizon</i>


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You're just trying to justify your weak and pathetic existence. Ditch the religion. Don't let the dark side cloud your judgement.

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Scamtron please reread all my posts carefully before posting. I've said at first that i believe they're using the religion as a justification for their terrible acts. And most of them seems to use islam, and like i said so many of them has committed crimes, kinda makes me have second thoughts before making friend with a muslim.

Watched the whole thing unfold as I sat watching TV in Bulgaria. Sh<i></i>t man, it left me speechless and furious. First the 2 planes and the school, as u said, targetting kids is just SICK. I shudder to think what if this crap happened in my brother's school. There should be no mercy shown to such acts, this new kind of "warfare" needs to stop.

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Reading up on what happened in the middle ages (the inquisition, etc) may bring you to reconsider your friendship with christians then

I understand that it's awhile back, but it is basically the same thing.

The real problem is extremism, a combination of an extreme interpretation of scripture or dogma, combined with all-encompassing intolerance to those that disagree with this interpretation. Of course the dogma itself can be the problem as well, for instance the Nazi doctrine, but it's not automatic that the dogma itself is flawed, immoral, evil (etc).

DH may disagree on the last bit, but that's why he's the devil's advocate .






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Yeah, definitely way lower. Of course, there are zones that are highly concentrated of these kinds of idiots, but that's the brainwashing created from a certain region with anger. Think of a Muslim living in Palestine and one living in Silicon Valley. The ratio then appears as great, simply because we are shown that region but not one around us.

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I'm working with a muslim, but when you come talk to him abut stuff like this he justifies the stuff and he doesn't always realise it.

He lately wants proof about this stuff.

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In the case of the french hostages and the demand to abolish the law to forbid all expressions of religious signs (which includes traditional headdress of muslima's but also jewish capels, and christian crucifixes (of a certain size)), the french muslim population took a collective stance against foreign (middle eastern) interference into french domestic affairs. Although that same population is in general opposed to that law, they did not tolerate these hostage action on french citizens at all and have been publicly spoken against it.

That being said, it was the first serious sign of such collective rejection I have seen. I agree that the muslem communities around the world could be much more outspoken against the terrorist activities in the region, which includes all active factions (also israel) but also world wide. Maybe their leaders do not know the proper way to the mass media but I doubt that. There are peace promoting groups in Israel, there are not that many organised peace movements in the arab middle east to my knowledge. If there are, please enlighten me.

I do not mean to imply that the majority of muslems around the world is not peace loving, but they could be more vocal about it and publicly reject any form of terrorism. It would make them stronger in relation to their view that they are constantly being harassed by actions of the United States and their allies and change the international focus to their real issues like the palestinian refugees living for many decades in camps, instead of a suicide bombing on an israeli bus.


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Like I said, unless you know they are brainwashed. You cut my phrase there.

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I'm not exactly sure but it is in russia somewhere.

I got a slidesshow about it and the muslim friend of mine wanted proof about the whole story.

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