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Anonymous
March 22, 2005 2:04:47 PM

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Hello Chess Friends,

I ahve downloaded Arena 1.1 and alot of chess engiens from eMule.
The problem is that the chess engines work with arena only when they are in
..exe format.

But most of my engines are comeing with 2 files likes this.

Hiarc9.eng and Hiarc9.dll

I am telling Arena to use the file with .eng it takes it but the engine
wont play if its turn comes.

What am i doing wrong?

And also, what do you consider to be the best engine? (free or non-free)

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Anonymous
March 22, 2005 4:49:00 PM

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Richard Anderson wrote:
> Hello Chess Friends,
>
> I ahve downloaded Arena 1.1 and alot of chess engiens from eMule.
> The problem is that the chess engines work with arena only when they are in
> ..exe format.
>
> But most of my engines are comeing with 2 files likes this.
>
> Hiarc9.eng and Hiarc9.dll
>
> I am telling Arena to use the file with .eng it takes it but the engine
> wont play if its turn comes.
>
> What am i doing wrong?
> ...
use a chessbase GUI for chessbase engines

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Anonymous
March 22, 2005 4:49:01 PM

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Peter Pein <petsie@arcor.de> wrote in news:3aaihlF695i95U2@individual.net:

>> What am i doing wrong?
>> ...
> use a chessbase GUI for chessbase engines

Perhaps you can suggest me one of the best?

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March 22, 2005 4:58:10 PM

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Richard Anderson <hackeras@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.games.chess.computer:


> But most of my engines are comeing with 2 files likes this.
>
> Hiarc9.eng and Hiarc9.dll
>
> I am telling Arena to use the file with .eng it takes it but the
> engine wont play if its turn comes.
>
> What am i doing wrong?


Basically downloading them without paying. Furthermore Chessbase
engines have a proprietary format, they're neither Winboard, not
UCI-compatible. If you steal software, steal at least a complete
set.



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CeeBee

"Eppur si muove!"
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 5:24:36 PM

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CeeBee <ceebeechester@start.com.au> wrote in
news:Xns962198489D73Eceebeechesterstartco@195.121.6.74:

> Basically downloading them without paying. Furthermore Chessbase
> engines have a proprietary format, they're neither Winboard, not
> UCI-compatible. If you steal software, steal at least a complete
> set.

I just need the engine so then i can make all the engines paly oen against
the other to see how they play and whos best.

Weher can i find a Chessbase GUI and why Arena doesnt support this format
the engines have? its ownsership of chessbase company only? why they doest
aslo make the engines support all availabe chess protocols?

Arena only accept .exe Can i find the above engines in .exe format or only
in .eng and .dll ?

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Anonymous
March 22, 2005 8:36:40 PM

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Richard Anderson wrote:
> CeeBee <ceebeechester@start.com.au> wrote in
> news:Xns962198489D73Eceebeechesterstartco@195.121.6.74:
>
>
>>Basically downloading them without paying. Furthermore Chessbase
>>engines have a proprietary format, they're neither Winboard, not
>>UCI-compatible. If you steal software, steal at least a complete
>>set.
>
>
> I just need the engine so then i can make all the engines paly oen against
> the other to see how they play and whos best.
>
> Weher can i find a Chessbase GUI and why Arena doesnt support this format
> the engines have? its ownsership of chessbase company only? why they doest
> aslo make the engines support all availabe chess protocols?
>
> Arena only accept .exe Can i find the above engines in .exe format or only
> in .eng and .dll ?
>
Basically he explained it all, however, you could ask Chessbase support
to send you a copy of their GUI. They are generally nice people, so
maybe you'll get it. Remember to tell them that it's for eng-engines,
not exe.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 8:36:41 PM

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HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote in news:fQX%d.166$qe6.53@news.get2net.dk:

> Basically he explained it all, however, you could ask Chessbase support
> to send you a copy of their GUI. They are generally nice people, so
> maybe you'll get it. Remember to tell them that it's for eng-engines,
> not exe.

Well ok, but what i really want to do is to use the above engines in
conjuction with Arena not the Chessbase product.

Is there a tool that will convert .eng -> .exe or the engines exist also as
..exe's somewhere?

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Anonymous
March 22, 2005 9:18:03 PM

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Richard Anderson wrote:
> HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote in news:fQX%d.166$qe6.53@news.get2net.dk:
>
>
>>Basically he explained it all, however, you could ask Chessbase support
>>to send you a copy of their GUI. They are generally nice people, so
>>maybe you'll get it. Remember to tell them that it's for eng-engines,
>>not exe.
>
>
> Well ok, but what i really want to do is to use the above engines in
> conjuction with Arena not the Chessbase product.
>
> Is there a tool that will convert .eng -> .exe or the engines exist also as
> .exe's somewhere?
>
No.
March 22, 2005 9:47:54 PM

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Richard Anderson <hackeras@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.games.chess.computer:

> HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> however, you could ask Chessbase
>> support to send you a copy of their GUI. They are generally
>> nice people, so maybe you'll get it. Remember to tell them that
>> it's for eng-engines, not exe.
>
> Well ok, but what i really want to do is to use the above
> engines in conjuction with Arena not the Chessbase product.


This case is worse than we thought.

Both great fun _and_ disturbing at the same time. Sometimes that
happens, you know.

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"Eppur si muove!"
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 11:27:04 AM

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CeeBee wrote:

> This case is worse than we thought.
>
> Both great fun _and_ disturbing at the same time. Sometimes that
> happens, you know.
>

Right in every word.
And even for free..!
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 11:52:11 AM

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HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote in news:4T80e.7$9e4.6@news.get2net.dk:

> CeeBee wrote:
>
>> This case is worse than we thought.
>>
>> Both great fun _and_ disturbing at the same time. Sometimes that
>> happens, you know.
>>
>
> Right in every word.
> And even for free..!

Will you please tell me what chessbase GUI product is the best to use and
also how can i make .eng play with arena somehow?



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Just because I didnt doesnt mean I dont want to.
Just because I wouldnt doesnt mean I cant.
Anonymous
March 24, 2005 12:13:45 PM

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Richard Anderson wrote:
> HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote in news:4T80e.7$9e4.6@news.get2net.dk:
>
>
>>CeeBee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This case is worse than we thought.
>>>
>>>Both great fun _and_ disturbing at the same time. Sometimes that
>>>happens, you know.
>>>
>>
>>Right in every word.
>>And even for free..!
>
>
> Will you please tell me what chessbase GUI product is the best to use and
> also how can i make .eng play with arena somehow?
>
>
>
Whatever Chessbase might send you, it will be good: There's not much
difference, and you wont miss anything.
BTW, you'll need the openingbooks for the engines too: Many engines
plays badly on books that doesn't suit their style. Of cource, if you
are good enough, you can create some yourself, when you've figured out
their style.
Again, there's no way to make CB-"eng"-engines play in other GUI's, but
if you insist on having them working in Arena, you can hook up an extra
comp and use autoplayer - but it still requires the CB-GUI to work.
Surely, when you're are at it, you could ask Chessbase for their secret
protocol, so you could convert engines yourself. It just might be
easiest thing after all.
Anonymous
March 24, 2005 12:13:46 PM

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HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote in news:TEu0e.24$mO1.4@news.get2net.dk:

> Whatever Chessbase might send you, it will be good: There's not much
> difference, and you wont miss anything.

I ahve gone to their site but why dont they have trials or something that
ppl can downlaod to test their product?

Wheres the trial for ChessBase 9? Why do we have to ask them to email it to
use instead of just they have them ready for downloading it?

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Anonymous
March 24, 2005 1:41:44 PM

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Richard Anderson wrote:
> HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote in news:TEu0e.24$mO1.4@news.get2net.dk:
>
>
>>Whatever Chessbase might send you, it will be good: There's not much
>>difference, and you wont miss anything.
>
>
> I ahve gone to their site but why dont they have trials or something that
> ppl can downlaod to test their product?
>
You should ask Chessbase about that.

> Wheres the trial for ChessBase 9? Why do we have to ask them to email it to
> use

I didn't say they would email CB9, I suggested that you tried to ask for
a copy of their GUI. If you explain your situation, they must understand.

instead of just they have them ready for downloading it?
>
Again, you should ask Chessbase - I can only guess.
Anonymous
March 26, 2005 4:39:02 AM

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* Richard Anderson <hackeras@gmail.com> (2005-03-22) schrieb:

> Peter Pein <petsie@arcor.de> wrote in news:3aaihlF695i95U2@individual.net:
>
>>> What am i doing wrong?
>>> ...
>> use a chessbase GUI for chessbase engines
>
> Perhaps you can suggest me one of the best?

Fritz? But you can buy Shredder along with a Fritz GUI.

mfg, simon .... l
Anonymous
March 26, 2005 11:35:00 AM

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Simon Krahnke <overlord@gmx.li> wrote in news:87oed7tf4p.fsf@xts.gnuu.de:

> Fritz? But you can buy Shredder along with a Fritz GUI.

Iam currently using ProDeo(free version of Rebel 12).

Is Fritz better that ProDeo and DeepJunior?

Prodeo is surely better that Shredder though cause i ahve tese them by
playing against in Arena.

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