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I want to go into a studio and audition mics before I buy one for my
home setup. I'm hoping to find an inexpensive mic(preferably under
$300)that fits my voice. As for preamps, I just bought a Zoom MRS1608CD
digital recorder and I have an ART Tube MP.

I was hoping that some of you can give me a list of inexpensive mics
you've had good results with when recording male vocals, especially
somewhat muddy vocals that need some brightening. My voice is baritone
and lacks brightness and sounds more warm/operatic than rock and roll.
And what I'll mostly be singing is pop, rock, and country.

Although I'm just recording songwriting demos, I want them to sound as
good as they can, and I know the right mic can really help. If I have
to spend a little more than I wanted to(but only for the perfect
mic)I'll do so, but if any of you have had success with male vocals
using inexpensive mics, please let me know which ones.
Before I pick a studio to audition the mics I figured I'd get a list
from all of you here, so I can match their gear to what you suggest I
try out.

Also, if you have any tips for the actual studio session that would be
greatly appreciated as well--how long it should take, how to make most
efficient use of the time, etc.
Thanks very much.
Jeff

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Also, I just realized that slightly more expensive microphones that are
more likely to retain their value may be worth considering as well. So
If I can sell the mic later on for nearly what it cost me, I'd
certainly like to audition it.
Thanks,
Jeff

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On 1 Sep 2005 08:22:15 -0700, "straightnut" <straightnut@aol.com>
wrote:

>I was hoping that some of you can give me a list of inexpensive mics
>you've had good results with when recording male vocals, especially
>somewhat muddy vocals that need some brightening. My voice is baritone
>and lacks brightness and sounds more warm/operatic than rock and roll.
>And what I'll mostly be singing is pop, rock, and country.

The right mic may help a bit. But have you consulted a good singing
teacher? There may be a lot that can be done with your voice. Maybe
some quite simple techniques of positioning the sound could make a big
difference.

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No, I haven't considered that, although I can sing pretty well. But I
have a feeling a singing teacher wouldn't teach me how to make my voice
grittier. I may have a misconception about mics and what they can
accomplish. Thanks for the suggestion.
Jeff

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On 5 Sep 2005 06:10:48 -0700, "straightnut" <straightnut@aol.com>
wrote:

>No, I haven't considered that, although I can sing pretty well. But I
>have a feeling a singing teacher wouldn't teach me how to make my voice
>grittier. I may have a misconception about mics and what they can
>accomplish. Thanks for the suggestion.

Not all singing teachers have a Bel Canto agenda :-)

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straightnut wrote:
> I want to go into a studio and audition mics before I buy one for my
> home setup. I'm hoping to find an inexpensive mic(preferably under
> $300)that fits my voice.

That sounds like a noble effort. I suspect, however, that a studio that
you'd go to to try mics would have a reasonable assortment of $1,000+
mics (and maybe one inexpensive mic that someone there likes) or you'll
find yourself in somoene's personal studio - someone just like you but
who has more loose cash and just bought a bunch of mics in the
under-$300 range.

> I was hoping that some of you can give me a list of inexpensive mics
> you've had good results with when recording male vocals, especially
> somewhat muddy vocals that need some brightening.

You name it and it'll be on somebody's list. It's that bad today. And
your requierments are just like everybody else's.

> Although I'm just recording songwriting demos, I want them to sound as
> good as they can, and I know the right mic can really help.

It's not likely that you'll find "the" mic, but you could get lucky if
you try enough of them. I'd suggest that you visit a dealer rather than
a studio, take your preamp and recorder along if you want to, go before
lunch time on a weekday (when they aren't busy) and make some test
recordings with several different mics. If you bring some tracks
recorded on your Zoom recorder, you can sing to those. Then set it up
for playback on some reasonable speakers in the store, listen to the
playbacks, and buy the mic that you like best.

The salesman will be impressed by your thorougness (or will be totally
bored and will leave you alone - both are equally effective) and you'll
have an opportunity to try what you can actually buy. One of the things
that you should be aware of is that when you get really cheap, there's
can be as much variation from one mic to another of the same make and
model as there is between different models. So when you hear a vocal
recording that you like best, take that mic off the stand, carry it to
the cash register, and say "I'll take this one."

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straightnut wrote:
> I
> have a feeling a singing teacher wouldn't teach me how to make my voice
> grittier. I may have a misconception about mics and what they can
> accomplish.

I think you do. Grittiness is something that we all try to avoid with
microphones, but it's sometimes a characteristic that a mic preamp can
add. ART is famous for this, so if that doesn't give you grit, you
aren't going to get it from anywhere but your throat.

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Like you suggested, I was having no luck finding a recording studio
with a selection of mics in my price range. Thanks for the great
suggestion of taking my recorder into a dealer. I considered going into
a dealer using their equipment, but your idea makes a lot more sense.
Jeff

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