For the first time ever, it seems I may have to buy my new studio monitors
"unheard". I live in a part of the UK that is devoid of Pro-Audio suppliers,
and as I don't have my own transport, I can't get to the city stores.
I'm looking at active powered nearfield monitors suitable for a control room
approximately 15' x 9' (although the workstation will be positioned at one
end of the long side, projecting accross the short dimension of the room).
There appears to be a huge choice available in my price range of up to £800.
Can anyone here recommend some that would give a natural transparent sound
with a good tight bass down to 40Hz or less. All the write-ups say more or
less the same things. I really need to hear from people who have had the
chance to compare some of these monitors on various kinds of music.
Alternatively, if anyone knows a supplier who makes "house calls", I'd be
very grateful!
--
Lynn
Wobbly Music
"Supporting the Mature Artist"
=============================
http://www.wobblymusic.net Latest Release... "Friends" by John McKeon
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I'd order something from a retailer you can return them to if you don't
like. You may be out the cost of shipping but that's a small price to
find monitors you like. I just bought a pair of genelec 8020's and
i've only had them a few days but so far so good! With your budget I'd
probably start looking at either the genelec 8030, dynaudio bm6 or the
tannoy reveal. I don't know what kind of music you do so I can't be
more specific than that, but those are probably a good place to start.
On 2005-09-07, Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
> genericaudioperson@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Mackie HR-824's are your best bet.
>
> Nothing else at all ?
Event ASP8 compares favorable to the Mackies (IMHO).
Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrity.com> wrote:
>On 2005-09-07, Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> genericaudioperson@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Mackie HR-824's are your best bet.
>>
>> Nothing else at all ?
>
>Event ASP8 compares favorable to the Mackies (IMHO).
Whereas, I'd pick the Mackie over the ASP8 any day, as well as over the
Hafler. But that's just me, and that's why you need to audition monitors
yourself.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
In auditioning new monitors, is there a burn-in period to consider?
Bruce
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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: Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrity.com> wrote:
: >On 2005-09-07, Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >> genericaudioperson@hotmail.com wrote:
: >>
: >>> Mackie HR-824's are your best bet.
: >>
: >> Nothing else at all ?
: >
: >Event ASP8 compares favorable to the Mackies (IMHO).
:
: Whereas, I'd pick the Mackie over the ASP8 any day, as well as over the
: Hafler. But that's just me, and that's why you need to audition monitors
: yourself.
: --scott
: --
: "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
"Bruce Cooley" <bcooley@teleport.com> wrote in message
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> In auditioning new monitors, is there a burn-in period to consider?
Yes; the suspension loosens over time, and when it does you get a good deal
more bass. One way to hurry up the process is to put the speakers in a
soundproof room and pump heavy rock music or, better reggae into them at
something like 90dB SPL for 48 hours or more. Or hook 'em up to a power
transformer with a 6.3V secondary. I've found the latter, however, less
effective than the former.
Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrity.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2005-09-07, Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>genericaudioperson@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mackie HR-824's are your best bet.
>>>
>>>Nothing else at all ?
>>
>>Event ASP8 compares favorable to the Mackies (IMHO).
>
>
> Whereas, I'd pick the Mackie over the ASP8 any day, as well as over the
> Hafler. But that's just me, and that's why you need to audition monitors
> yourself.
> --scott
And I decided the Dynaudios were for me....
> In auditioning new monitors, is there a burn-in period to consider?
For you, yes. For the monitors, no. Take a pair home and mix a few
projects through them. If you like them, keep them. If you don't,
return them and try something else.
If line a bunch of them up in a store, play a favorite CD through them,
and try to pick the best one, chances are you'll pick the wrong one.
But this exercise can help you to weed out those that you wouldn't
consider.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I like the look of the Event series. The
spec seems to give more bass for the money! I'm a drummer, so I tend to like
a good bass end.
Scott... What is it about the Mackie's that you prefer?
Those Adam monitors seem interesting. Has anyone heard those?
I'm also considering a new soundcard and the Tascam FW1884 seems closest to
my requirements. Has anyone had any experience with one of those? How does
the sound compare to other cards? Would my 2Ghz processor be able to handle
tracking 8 channels simultaneously at 24/96?
--
Lynn
Wobbly Music
"Supporting the Mature Artist"
=============================
http://www.wobblymusic.net Latest Release... "Friends" by John McKeon
Order your copy now and get 2 FREE bonus tracks!
http://www.johnmckeon.wobblymusic.net
"Lynn" <lynnmonkVIRUSFREE@btclick.com> wrote in message
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> For the first time ever, it seems I may have to buy my new studio monitors
> "unheard". I live in a part of the UK that is devoid of Pro-Audio
> suppliers, and as I don't have my own transport, I can't get to the city
> stores.
>
> I'm looking at active powered nearfield monitors suitable for a control
> room approximately 15' x 9' (although the workstation will be positioned
> at one end of the long side, projecting accross the short dimension of the
> room).
>
> There appears to be a huge choice available in my price range of up to
> £800. Can anyone here recommend some that would give a natural transparent
> sound with a good tight bass down to 40Hz or less. All the write-ups say
> more or less the same things. I really need to hear from people who have
> had the chance to compare some of these monitors on various kinds of
> music.
>
> Alternatively, if anyone knows a supplier who makes "house calls", I'd be
> very grateful!
> --
> Lynn
> Wobbly Music
> "Supporting the Mature Artist"
> =============================
> http://www.wobblymusic.net > Latest Release... "Friends" by John McKeon
> Order your copy now and get 2 FREE bonus tracks!
> http://www.johnmckeon.wobblymusic.net >
>
Lynn <lynnmonkVIRUSFREE@btclick.com> wrote:
>Thanks for all your suggestions. I like the look of the Event series. The
>spec seems to give more bass for the money! I'm a drummer, so I tend to like
>a good bass end.
>
>Scott... What is it about the Mackie's that you prefer?
The big thing for me about monitors is midrange neutrality. Listen to a
vocal and close your eyes and see if you can imagine the singer right in
front of you.
The Mackie does better than most in that price range at giving a realistic
vocal sound. It's not too honky on female vocals the way a lot of other
inexpensive monitors are.
>Those Adam monitors seem interesting. Has anyone heard those?
I have, and the top end on them is very much like the old Heil ESS drivers
that they are based on. Midrange is good, but the top end is a little bit
harsh and spitty, but nowhere near as much as typical dome tweeters. The
dispersion is definitely narrower than the Mackies, which could be good or
bad depending on your room and working habits.
>I'm also considering a new soundcard and the Tascam FW1884 seems closest to
>my requirements. Has anyone had any experience with one of those? How does
>the sound compare to other cards? Would my 2Ghz processor be able to handle
>tracking 8 channels simultaneously at 24/96?
I have no idea.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
I bought and compared (mixing and listening) Dynaudio BM15 passive,
Tannoy Reveal, Paradigm Studio Reference, SLS ribbons, and PMC TB2+.
I then sold or moved every other speaker in the house and studio and
bought 5 of the PMCs.
Might be possible to demo those in the UK if you call the PMC
distributor. Very worthwhile to hear them IMO. Sorry to repeat the
same old thing, but you really do need to mix/monitor your material in
your room on the actual speakers to know for sure.
Scott says...
> The big thing for me about monitors is midrange neutrality. Listen to a
> vocal and close your eyes and see if you can imagine the singer right in
> front of you.
>
> The Mackie does better than most in that price range at giving a realistic
> vocal sound. It's not too honky on female vocals the way a lot of other
> inexpensive monitors are.
Thanks Scott. Good point there for me to consider. I'll have to try and get
an audition of the Mackies.
--
Lynn
Wobbly Music
"Supporting the Mature Artist"
=============================
http://www.wobblymusic.net Latest Release... "Friends" by John McKeon
Order your copy now and get 2 FREE bonus tracks!
http://www.johnmckeon.wobblymusic.net
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Lynn <lynnmonkVIRUSFREE@btclick.com> wrote:
>>Thanks for all your suggestions. I like the look of the Event series. The
>>spec seems to give more bass for the money! I'm a drummer, so I tend to
>>like
>>a good bass end.
>>
>>Scott... What is it about the Mackie's that you prefer?
>
> The big thing for me about monitors is midrange neutrality. Listen to a
> vocal and close your eyes and see if you can imagine the singer right in
> front of you.
>
> The Mackie does better than most in that price range at giving a realistic
> vocal sound. It's not too honky on female vocals the way a lot of other
> inexpensive monitors are.
>
>>Those Adam monitors seem interesting. Has anyone heard those?
>
> I have, and the top end on them is very much like the old Heil ESS drivers
> that they are based on. Midrange is good, but the top end is a little bit
> harsh and spitty, but nowhere near as much as typical dome tweeters. The
> dispersion is definitely narrower than the Mackies, which could be good or
> bad depending on your room and working habits.
>
>>I'm also considering a new soundcard and the Tascam FW1884 seems closest
>>to
>>my requirements. Has anyone had any experience with one of those? How does
>>the sound compare to other cards? Would my 2Ghz processor be able to
>>handle
>>tracking 8 channels simultaneously at 24/96?
>
> I have no idea.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
"Steve Scott" <squeegybug@netspace1.com> wrote in message
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>I bought and compared (mixing and listening) Dynaudio BM15 passive,
> Tannoy Reveal, Paradigm Studio Reference, SLS ribbons, and PMC TB2+.
>
> I then sold or moved every other speaker in the house and studio and
> bought 5 of the PMCs.
>
> Might be possible to demo those in the UK if you call the PMC
> distributor. Very worthwhile to hear them IMO. Sorry to repeat the
> same old thing, but you really do need to mix/monitor your material in
> your room on the actual speakers to know for sure.
>
> Steve
>
heheh. PMC _is_ a British company... they might work with you
directly, and ship or deliver some samples. Or, it appears there are
lots of British dealers. I've had excellent support from the
USA/Canada distributor, and have heard equally good things about their
UK service.
PMC Limited
43-45 Crawley Green Road
Luton
LU2 0AA
UK
T +44 (0) 870 4441044
F +44 (0) 870 4441045
sales@promonitor.co.uk
www.pmcloudspeaker.com
> I then sold or moved every other speaker in the house and studio and
> bought 5 of the PMCs.
>
> Might be possible to demo those in the UK if you call the PMC
> distributor. Very worthwhile to hear them IMO. Sorry to repeat the
> same old thing, but you really do need to mix/monitor your material in
> your room on the actual speakers to know for sure.
>
> Steve
You didn't read my message.
I DID demo in my room.
--
Stephen Olsen
Gearslut Extraordinaire
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Dump the numbers to reply. Damm Spam!
"Lynn" <lynnmonkVIRUSFREE@btclick.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I know exactly what you mean about auditioning them in situ. I'll
have
> to try and con a salesman to bring a selection to my studio! )
Or maybe if you offer to become a local demo site ... :-)
"Dear Audio Equipment Manufacturer
"As you know, Accrington is something of a desert when it comes to
musician's audio equipment shops. This is particularly troublesome when
selecting monitors, because it is essential to listen to them for extended
periods.
"I run a small recording and mixing studio aimed at musicians with more
sense than money, and I have decided one of the things I can do for my
customers is provide an auditioning facilty for studio monitors.
"If you would like your company's products to be represented in my studio,
please tell me which of your products products you would like to placehere.
Our charges are quite modest, £26 per pair of monitors per year."
>For the first time ever, it seems I may have to buy my new studio monitors
>"unheard". I live in a part of the UK that is devoid of Pro-Audio suppliers,
>and as I don't have my own transport, I can't get to the city stores.
Do you have public transportation available? A bus or train? It might
be well worth a weekend trip to someplace where you CAN audition some
options. Phone or email ahead to some dealers at your chosen
destination and see what they have to offer. Take along a friend and
go on Audio Holiday. I can think of worse vacations.
>
>I'm looking at active powered nearfield monitors suitable for a control room
>approximately 15' x 9' (although the workstation will be positioned at one
>end of the long side, projecting accross the short dimension of the room).
>
>There appears to be a huge choice available in my price range of up to £800.
>Can anyone here recommend some that would give a natural transparent sound
>with a good tight bass down to 40Hz or less. All the write-ups say more or
>less the same things. I really need to hear from people who have had the
>chance to compare some of these monitors on various kinds of music.
>
>Alternatively, if anyone knows a supplier who makes "house calls", I'd be
>very grateful!
hank alrich wrote:
> Bob Cain wrote:
>
>
>>Are you talking about speakers you like to listen to or
>>speakers it would be best to mix on? There really is a
>>difference.
>
>
> Not for me; I like the same speakers for both.
Yeah, I've come to as well but it took a while.
Bob
--
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
Hehe...so they are! I must have automatically avoided them because they are
out of my price bracket. Oh.. well, perhaps when I've earned a few quid!
--
Lynn
Wobbly Music
"Supporting the Mature Artist"
=============================
http://www.wobblymusic.net Latest Release... "Friends" by John McKeon
Order your copy now and get 2 FREE bonus tracks!
http://www.johnmckeon.wobblymusic.net
"Steve Scott" <squeegybug@netspace1.com> wrote in message
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> heheh. PMC _is_ a British company... they might work with you
> directly, and ship or deliver some samples. Or, it appears there are
> lots of British dealers. I've had excellent support from the
> USA/Canada distributor, and have heard equally good things about their
> UK service.
>
>
> PMC Limited
> 43-45 Crawley Green Road
> Luton
> LU2 0AA
> UK
>
> T +44 (0) 870 4441044
> F +44 (0) 870 4441045
> sales@promonitor.co.uk
> www.pmcloudspeaker.com >
>
> Steve
>
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