Old school, old dog, goes back to school

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Teaching an old dog new tricks. If you have ever tried it, it can be
frustrating; especially if your the dog.

I have an old-school engineering background, large format console, lots
of channels, EQ's, insert for processing, then bussing to those lovely
2" behemoths. Inline monitoring design... it was all so easy.. right
there in front of you.. all hands on.

Now I need to set up a digistudio around a ProTools HD system and I find
myself pulling out my hair to know what to put around it. I have been a
faithful MOTU DP user in my last few years. But never needing to record
more than one or two live tracks at a time, a couple of nice channel
strips have served me well. But now I need at least 16 simultaneous
inputs, and I hate mouse mixing. So I want some kind of front end where
I can use EQ and Dynamics on each input BEFORE it hits the digital
realm, easy to use foldback system, then have some tactile controller to
mix and control the DAW with. It there such a beast? or am I looking at
a rack full of pre's, and eq's and comp's and some control surface for
the back end?

Is there a digital mixer where the eq and dynamics won't induce a
perceived latency that you have found that works and sounds great? I am
just not savvy on the new stuff to know. Your expert advice is
appreciated.

Ron

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>
> I don't really understand. It seems to me that you either use a computer
> interrface to control all 16 channels, or you need an individual set of
> controls for each channel.
>
> Let's take a scenario. Suppose you've recorded some tracks, and you find
> that in the mix, you want to cut the bass guitar by 3dB around 200hz.
>
> What interface do you want to use to achieve this?
>
> Tim


Tim, thanks for the question. On the backend(mix) there is no problem
other than just having some kind of tactile control like a Mackie HUI or
whatever because I'll be using the Protools or MOTU plug-ins and such to
mix within the computer. It more the input side that I have questions
about and wanting it all in the same console/controller. But the
feedback and further research leads me to think I am looking at
something like a Control 24 or 02R, or the like. That serves both as a
multi-input console and DAW control Surface. What have you found to be
succesful?

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"Guitrzman" <ron@nospam.harvestrecords.com> wrote in message
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"What have you found to be succesful?"

I use a mouse. I don't do any processing of the signal on input. Once all
the tracks are recorded in 24-bit audio, then I apply any signal processing.
(I don't use Pro Tools, by the way; I use Cubasis and Cubase.)

Tim

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"Tim Martin" <tim2718281@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Guitrzman" <ron@nospam.harvestrecords.com> wrote in message
> news:ron-FB2DCF.12481309092005@news1.west.earthlink.net...
>
> "What have you found to be succesful?"
>
> I use a mouse. I don't do any processing of the signal on input. Once
> all
> the tracks are recorded in 24-bit audio, then I apply any signal
> processing.
> (I don't use Pro Tools, by the way; I use Cubasis and Cubase.)
>
> Tim

I currently do exactly the same but I use Logic.

However, I'm shortly upgrading to multiple inputs (8 is about the most I can
afford) and I'm looking seriously at the Tascam FW-1884. I think you can
chain a few together to get more channels, and it seems like a pretty good
control surface with inserts etc. Not sure if it's compatible with ProTools.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/17449?so [...] k&ad=17449

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