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What would prevent anyone from using a computer?

Then it becomes a question of who has the fastest and most powerfull
computer and software...

John
"Nikos" <hackeras@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello chess players,
>
> I was wondering if there is an Internet Website that i can play chess
> against other members for real money.
>
> Do you know of one?
>

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"John J." <detectorist@hotmail.com> wrote in news17je.52232$IO.7318
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

> What would prevent anyone from using a computer?
>
> Then it becomes a question of who has the fastest and most powerfull
> computer and software...

Well the playing/paying site must have some cheating detection method, to
prevent cheating, excatly like ICC has.

In the ICC one cannot cheat or if he is he would get cought immediately.

Same would apply to the competing playing iste.

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"Mark Houlsby" <mark.houlsby@eudoramail.com> wrote in
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> Nikos is absolutely correct. At playchess.com (ChessBase's server) they
> hold regular tournaments in which money may be won.
>
> People (c)heat, but they also get caught. It's a risk, apparently,
> which some folks are prepared to take.
>
> Mark
>
>

Thank you Mark.
Do you happen to know a website that one can play without having to pay for
membership or wait for paying upcoming tournaments?

I wish to play against other opponents for money any time of a day that i
feel like it :-)

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"Mark Houlsby" <mark.houlsby@eudoramail.com> wrote in
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> www.playchess.com is one, but you do have to buy a recent version of
> Fritz/Shredder/HIARCS/... to be able to connect. Note, too, that the
> server allows premoving, which means that essentially one is playing a
> chess variant in which people who lag get a distinct advantage, and it
> also means that a carefully-chosen string of premoves enables one to
> play an entire forcing sequence without using any time on the clock.
> People with excessive lag are allowed to play even in 3 0 tournaments,
> which seems to me to be pretty stupid, but it's ChessBase's server, and
> of course they may run it however they please. The admins are all
> first-rate.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>

Can i play for money any time i wish by seekign an opponent?

I want something like ICC but with betting in each match.

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"Mark Houlsby" <mark.houlsby@eudoramail.com> wrote in
news:1116538828.807062.103550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

>>Can i play for money any time i wish by seekign an opponent?
>
> I've never used it, but evidently, like ICC's "chekels", playchess has
> its own currency, called "Ducats". IIRC 1 Ducat=0.1 Euros (i.e. 10
> cents). You can seek games against lower-rated players, stipulating
> that they must pay you n Ducats before you will play. AFAIK there's no
> ongoing games-for-money facility, although of course you could come to
> some arrangement with specific opponents on *any* server, providing
> that that opponent is trustworthy.

Yes but maybe the opponent at first maybe he aggress to pay but hen if he
loses he wont.

Some automatic system must make the money dealing procedure to avoid
stealing because we really have no way to know if an unknown opponent is
trustworthy or not.



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>If the person has a second computer or a handheld chess device
there is no way to detect cheating.

That's not entirely true. For example, if a player is cheating so
blatantly that they consistently pick the top move in Pocket Fritz 2's
list, that's a bit of a giveaway. Also, if a 1200 player's endgame
technique perfectly matches tablebases (yes, I've played probably
dozens of such opponents online) then that, too, is a bit of a
giveaway....

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Not to change to the topic- but why turn chess into a potential money
earning game? That's the problem with tournament chess these days here
in the US- entry fees are so outrageous that the 'average' player has no
incentive to play tournament chess or join the USCF. This just leads to
a steady declining population of dues-paying federation members.


Nikos wrote:

> Hello chess players,
>
> I was wondering if there is an Internet Website that i can play chess
> against other members for real money.
>
> Do you know of one?
>


--
Aaron Deskins
Graduate Student
Chemical Engineering
Purdue University

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Nikos Wrote:
> Aaron Deskins ndeskins@ecn.purdue.edu wrote in news6ngag$thb$2
> @mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu:
> -
> Not to change to the topic- but why turn chess into a potential money
> earning game? That's the problem with tournament chess these days
> here
> in the US- entry fees are so outrageous that the 'average' player has
> no
> incentive to play tournament chess or join the USCF. This just leads
> to
> a steady declining population of dues-paying federation members.-
>
> Well i want to make some money out of it.
>
>
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> What is now proved was once only imagined!

Anyone playing Internet chess for money is just proving the old adage
true: "A fool and his money are soon parted". You can't detect cheating
on a secondary computer, and even if moves DID match the top moves
chosen by Fritz or any other of many good programs, that, in itself can
never prove actual cheating. If you want to play chess for fast cash,
set up a board at a park with the other chess hustlers.


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Forking Knight

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Cheats do it just for imaginary rating points on ICC. I would shudder to
think what a den of thieves we'd have if there were a chess-gambling site.
You must have drunk too much fermented squid eye soup when you posted that.

"Aaron Deskins" <ndeskins@ecn.purdue.edu> wrote in message
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> Amos J. Soma wrote:
>> Why in the world would you want to do this? Any chess site where playing
>> for money is involved would simply be a contest of who has the best chess
>> playing software. Cheating would be rampant.
>>
>> "Nikos" <hackeras@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns965BD4A4E8A30hackerasgmailcom@194.177.210.210...
>>
>>>Hello chess players,
>>>
>>>I was wondering if there is an Internet Website that i can play chess
>>>against other members for real money.
>>>
>>>Do you know of one?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Aaron Deskins
> Graduate Student
> Chemical Engineering
> Purdue University