Which guitar amp?

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On 9/9/05 7:12 PM, in article 8FoUe.43425$4g5.2870672@news4.tin.it,
"Federico" <plokmichael@tiscali.it> wrote:

> I need to buy a combo for a guitar player.
> It is for live concerts.
> Music is rock and the stage is not too loud.
> The combo is to be microphoned every gig.
>
> The guitar is a Gibson Firebird (I think Firebird V). It has to be this
> guitar. (don't ask).
>
> The player style is
> 1) Clean sound arpeggios (with pick). The sound should be "hard" and clear
> on the mids.
> 2) Distorted sound, "big muff" style
>
> I'd like to spend $500-$1000

Fender Blues Junior
I've run this thing with both my old Strat and my 76 Firebird and it works
(and for me anyways with pretty much identical settings- go fig).
I've done everything from clean Motown rhythm parts to Beach Boys blippy
surf stuff to clean and SRV/Hendrixian blues.
It's versatile enough that it'll be up to the player.

Biggest tone-tweak you can make (to your taste) is to pop in a different
speaker-of-your-choice. (I'd like to hear one with a WEBER California 12 but
that's just me...)

Also does dandy with an outboard closed-back cabinet for that sort of sound.

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On 9/10/05 4:07 AM, in article yrwUe.956$le5.426@amstwist00, "Sander"
<Big_Scary_Man@hotmail.com> wrote:

> SSJVCmag wrote:
>
>> "Federico" <plokmichael@tiscali.it> wrote:
>>> 1) Clean sound arpeggios (with pick). The sound should be "hard" and clear
>>> on the mids.
>>> 2) Distorted sound, "big muff" style
>
>> Fender Blues Junior
>
> If you want big muff style distortion out of a Blues Jr.... add a big muff.

And when one says "I want that Big Muff" sound, one ASSUMES that there;s one
in the chain.

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>>>> "Federico" <plokmichael@tiscali.it> wrote:
>>>>> 1) Clean sound arpeggios (with pick). The sound should be
>>>> "hard" and clear on the mids.
>>>>> 2) Distorted sound, "big muff" style

>>> SSJVCmag wrote:
>>>> Fender Blues Junior

>>> If you want big muff style distortion out of a Blues Jr....
>>> add a big muff.
>>
>> And when one says "I want that Big Muff" sound, one ASSUMES that \
>> there;s one in the chain.

> Yes, of course.....
> I just wanted to know if the amp you suggest is capable of sounding good
> with a Big Muff.....

"sounding good"...
I think I might've addressed that overall.. The FBJ, when not pushed past
its limits, does a lot of what you tell it to.
What you sure sound like you're REALLY asking is
"will it make the exact sound I want?"
Well, you are the only ears on that side of this screen... Ya need to
beg/borrow/rent one, including several differnt-sounding replacement
speakers... Spend a weekend playing with the Guitarist In question and the
amp and then decide.
That's how it works
That¹s the ONLY way it works.
Let us know how the tests go!


> For example a 8inch cone is less likely to have a good sound with a Big
> Muff then a 12 or 15 one....

And your point in the context of a Blues Junior...?
I donn;t know of anybody who tried an 8" speaker in one. Might be
interesting but I don;t have a clue what it has to do with this
discussion...

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Federico wrote:

> Yes, of course.....
> I just wanted to know if the amp you suggest is capable of sounding good
> with a Big Muff.....
> For example a 8inches cone is less likely to have a good sound with a Big
> Muff then a 12 or 15 one....
> F.
>

Not necessarily...

<snip>

--
Les Cargill

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Federico wrote:

> I need to buy a combo for a guitar player.
> It is for live concerts.
> Music is rock and the stage is not too loud.
> The combo is to be microphoned every gig.
>
> The guitar is a Gibson Firebird (I think Firebird V). It has to be this
> guitar. (don't ask).
>
> The player style is
> 1) Clean sound arpeggios (with pick). The sound should be "hard" and clear
> on the mids.
> 2) Distorted sound, "big muff" style
>

They still make Big Muff pedals....

> I'd like to spend $500-$1000
>
> I am thinking about some 30-50w tube combo (Orange? Music man 112? Vox AC30?
> Gibson Classic? Marshall JTM 30?)
>

I haven't heard any of the new Orange amps, but
they used to be famous for being St00pid Loud.

The Music Man 112 is not a bad choice, but they've
been out of production for a while.

The AC30 is gonna be loud, but it's gonna sound good.
For "clean arpeggios", it's hard to beat a Fender
Super Reverb.... but the Fender Blues Junior
is smaller and less trouble.

Dunno what it's like trying to buy gear in Italy
( if you are in Italy ). Can you go try-n-buy
with the guy? What does he think?

> Any suggestion? Other amp brands? 1 or 2 channels?
>
> Thank for the help
>
>
--
Les Cargill

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Federico wrote On 09/09/05 16:12,:
> I need to buy a combo for a guitar player.
> It is for live concerts.
> Music is rock and the stage is not too loud.
> The combo is to be microphoned every gig.
>
> The guitar is a Gibson Firebird (I think Firebird V). It has to be this
> guitar. (don't ask).
>
> The player style is
> 1) Clean sound arpeggios (with pick). The sound should be "hard" and clear
> on the mids.
> 2) Distorted sound, "big muff" style
>
> I'd like to spend $500-$1000
>
> I am thinking about some 30-50w tube combo (Orange? Music man 112? Vox AC30?
> Gibson Classic? Marshall JTM 30?)
>
> Any suggestion? Other amp brands? 1 or 2 channels?
>
> Thank for the help
>
>

Line 6 amp modellers are very nice and give you a variety of choices in amplifiers you can use. A
Flextone IIIXL, with two twelve inch Celestions, will cost you around seven hundred USD, and with
the pedal board, come in under a grand. You'll be able to get any sound you can think of and then some.

We use Line 6 gear on stage, no mic necessary as it has a built in direct box (stereo if you want),
on board effects, including the Muff, I believe. And the volume can be as quiet as you want and yet
sound like an amp cranked to eleven.

--fletch

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Ooops... 'ya gotta Mesa... didn't see that part.