hi-hat / overheads

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getting too much hat (and a hissy, sibilant sound at that) in drum
overheads. the rest of the kid sounds really good through them tho...
using neumann km184 in XY config. any tips beyond the obvious try new
hats? have any y'all found that using large diaphragm overheads or non
xy affects the hats and how? Where do you aim your overheads?

thanks in advance

tb

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Change HH, use a quiter and darker one...
F.


"thesquirrel" <revolvered@aol.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> getting too much hat (and a hissy, sibilant sound at that) in drum
> overheads. the rest of the kid sounds really good through them tho...
> using neumann km184 in XY config. any tips beyond the obvious try new
> hats? have any y'all found that using large diaphragm overheads or non
> xy affects the hats and how? Where do you aim your overheads?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> tb
>

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You can try HH as little as 12in. Zildjian SR are great for the job.
http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/prod [...] uctID=1148
To choose a good HH let the drummer play in the recording location while
playing a groove with open HH. Remember that room acoustic is VERY
important! Near walls can really make things worse like hell!

Another thing you can try is using smaller drumsticks... 5A instead of
5B..... 7B instead of 5A.... The drummer may feel "strange" and the whole
drumset may play softer but when you're recording you are looking for a good
sound, not for the maximum volume.... I'd give it a try.

Let us know!

F.



"thesquirrel" <revolvered@aol.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> that's what i feared. thought i might hail mary just in case someone
> was like, "dude just aim the mics at the third moon of juoiter and all
> your problems will be solved" . okk i will make the dude find new hats.
> thanks all.
>

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OT a bit - watching the Old Grey Whistle Test DVD you get some
interesting overhead options. Late 70's 414s and U87 but by early 80s
the rise of the KM84 and in one very interesting choice (for The
Police) silver 451s with black CK8 capsules! They just didn't care
about what it looked like in those days. Hope all the advice above
helps.

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In article <dg41lj$ckq$1@panix2.panix.com>,
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> But if you stand in front of the kit and it STILL sounds that way, you need
> to fix the kit.
> --scott





Naaa. You need a new drummer.




David Correia
www.Celebrationsound.com

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try everything everyone else said first.... but if nothing works, you
can set up a hi-hat mic, but don't use it in the mix. use it to feed
the sidechain of a compressor on the overheads. gate the close mics,
too.


thesquirrel wrote:
> getting too much hat (and a hissy, sibilant sound at that) in drum
> overheads. the rest of the kid sounds really good through them tho...
> using neumann km184 in XY config. any tips beyond the obvious try new
> hats? have any y'all found that using large diaphragm overheads or non
> xy affects the hats and how? Where do you aim your overheads?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> tb