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I just got a Tascam DV-RA1000. I'd like to make some audio archives
in DSD format but wondering how I can convert them to PCM without
buying expensive software like Sony Sonoma¨, Philips SA-CD Creator,
or Sadie.

I also noticed that Minnetonka DiscWelder can do it but only their
most expensive version $3000 Chrome II can import DSD files.

Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
to a stereo PCM WAV file?

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J.W. wrote:

> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
> to a stereo PCM WAV file?

Yes. Two cables. Left and right. Under 10 dollars.

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 04:56:36 GMT, "Dr. Dolittle" <pdo@spamblaster.not>
wrote:

>J.W. wrote:
>
>> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
>> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>
>Yes. Two cables. Left and right. Under 10 dollars.

Sounds like an analog conversion. Is there a cheap software solution?

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"J.W." <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 04:56:36 GMT, "Dr. Dolittle"
> <pdo@spamblaster.not> wrote:
>
>> J.W. wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a
>>> stereo DSD file to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>>
>> Yes. Two cables. Left and right. Under 10 dollars.
>
> Sounds like an analog conversion.

Yup.

> Is there a cheap software solution?

Just as soon as their are CD ROMs that read DSD.

<don't hold your breath!>

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On 9/19/05 11:51 PM, in article oa3vi1p47gnqtl9qd8ssden5se6vpjr50o@4ax.com,
"J.W." <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote:


> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>

Your "cheapest" and best route is probably to contact one of the mastering
studios that does SACD/DSD and have them convert the files for you. (Airshow
Mastering in Boulder comes to mind.)

It will be a higher quality conversion and it won't cost as much as buying a
system yourself. (Business 101: More variable expenses, less fixed expenses)


Allen
--
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Mastering Engineer
Essential Sound Mastering
www.esmastering.com

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J.W. <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 04:56:36 GMT, "Dr. Dolittle" <pdo@spamblaster.not>
>wrote:
>>J.W. wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
>>> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>>
>>Yes. Two cables. Left and right. Under 10 dollars.
>
>Sounds like an analog conversion. Is there a cheap software solution?

No, but there is an expensive hardware box from EMM that will do the
job.

It's possible you can do it with the Mykerinos also.
--scott
--
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:41:21 GMT, Allen Corneau
<allen@esmastering.com> wrote:

>On 9/19/05 11:51 PM, in article oa3vi1p47gnqtl9qd8ssden5se6vpjr50o@4ax.com,
>"J.W." <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
>> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>>
>
>Your "cheapest" and best route is probably to contact one of the mastering
>studios that does SACD/DSD and have them convert the files for you. (Airshow
>Mastering in Boulder comes to mind.)
>
>It will be a higher quality conversion and it won't cost as much as buying a
>system yourself. (Business 101: More variable expenses, less fixed expenses)


But.....Knowledge 101 trumps Business 101: if there's some little
known $99 utility written by some Russian teenager that converts the
DSD to hi-quality PCM WAV, then that beats paying a service to do it.
(I was just hoping that I was simply unaware of its existence.)

In this case, it seems there's no such software so I'll have to revert
to Business 101 as you suggest.

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J.W. <j10w_n1g@att.net> writes:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:41:21 GMT, Allen Corneau
> <allen@esmastering.com> wrote:
>
>>On 9/19/05 11:51 PM, in article oa3vi1p47gnqtl9qd8ssden5se6vpjr50o@4ax.com,
>>"J.W." <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
>>> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>>>
>>
>>Your "cheapest" and best route is probably to contact one of the mastering
>>studios that does SACD/DSD and have them convert the files for you. (Airshow
>>Mastering in Boulder comes to mind.)
>>
>>It will be a higher quality conversion and it won't cost as much as buying a
>>system yourself. (Business 101: More variable expenses, less fixed expenses)
>
>
> But.....Knowledge 101 trumps Business 101: if there's some little
> known $99 utility written by some Russian teenager that converts the
> DSD to hi-quality PCM WAV, then that beats paying a service to do it.
> (I was just hoping that I was simply unaware of its existence.)
>
> In this case, it seems there's no such software so I'll have to revert
> to Business 101 as you suggest.

Send me a sample file and I just may give you such a utility for free. It
should be trivial.
--
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Randy Yates wrote:
>
> Send me a sample file and I just may give you such a utility for free. It
> should be trivial.

That is quite a claim, Randy. I will be interested in hearing how that
goes.

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"Dr. Dolittle" <pdo@spamblaster.not> writes:

> Randy Yates wrote:
>> Send me a sample file and I just may give you such a utility for
>> free. It
>> should be trivial.
>
> That is quite a claim, Randy.

Why do you think so? The algorithm is simply a decimator. The
harder part will probably be understanding the file format.
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%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and those who hesitate
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J.W. <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:41:21 GMT, Allen Corneau >
<allen@esmastering.com> wrote:

> >On 9/19/05 11:51 PM, in article oa3vi1p47gnqtl9qd8ssden5se6vpjr50o@4ax.com,
> >"J.W." <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
> >> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
> >>
> >
> >Your "cheapest" and best route is probably to contact one of the mastering
> >studios that does SACD/DSD and have them convert the files for you. (Airshow
> >Mastering in Boulder comes to mind.)
> >
> >It will be a higher quality conversion and it won't cost as much as buying a
> >system yourself. (Business 101: More variable expenses, less fixed expenses)


> But.....Knowledge 101 trumps Business 101: if there's some little
> known $99 utility written by some Russian teenager that converts the
> DSD to hi-quality PCM WAV, then that beats paying a service to do it.
> (I was just hoping that I was simply unaware of its existence.)

> In this case, it seems there's no such software so I'll have to revert
> to Business 101 as you suggest.

The 'Russians' came through for DVD-A..but alas not SACD so far.

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"Steven Sullivan" <ssully@panix.com> wrote in message
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> The 'Russians' came through for DVD-A..but alas not SACD
> so far.

The fact that PC DVD readers can't touch a SACD DVD layer
probably has something to do with that.

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Dr. Dolittle wrote:
> Randy Yates wrote:
>
>>
>> Send me a sample file and I just may give you such a utility for free. It
>> should be trivial.
>
>
> That is quite a claim, Randy. I will be interested in hearing how that
> goes.

I could be wrong, but I thought DSD was just 1-bit PWM running at 2MHz.


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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:41:21 GMT, Allen Corneau
<allen@esmastering.com> wrote:

>On 9/19/05 11:51 PM, in article oa3vi1p47gnqtl9qd8ssden5se6vpjr50o@4ax.com,
>"J.W." <j10w_n1g@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Is there some cheap utility that can simply convert a stereo DSD file
>> to a stereo PCM WAV file?
>>
>
>Your "cheapest" and best route is probably to contact one of the mastering
>studios that does SACD/DSD and have them convert the files for you. (Airshow
>Mastering in Boulder comes to mind.)
>
>It will be a higher quality conversion and it won't cost as much as buying a
>system yourself. (Business 101: More variable expenses, less fixed expenses)

Well, Weiss Engineering just came out with the opposite software.
They made a PCM to DSD converter.

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2005/P2D.html
http://www.weiss.ch/p2d/p2d.html

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J.W. wrote:

> Well, Weiss Engineering just came out with the opposite software.
> They made a PCM to DSD converter.

Is encoding DSD much easier than decoding it?

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"Dr. Dolittle" <pdo@spamblaster.not> wrote in message
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> J.W. wrote:
>
>> Well, Weiss Engineering just came out with the opposite
>> software. They made a PCM to DSD converter.
>
> Is encoding DSD much easier than decoding it?

The opposite is true. It's far harder to encode than decode.

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