Well, I managed to introduce a lot of controversy (and even start a couple
of fights) with my post about the infamous Behringer article. Now I give
you this video to ponder. What do you think of the school. I must admit I
am a big fan.
Todd McFadden wrote:
> Well, I managed to introduce a lot of controversy (and even start a couple
> of fights) with my post about the infamous Behringer article. Now I give
> you this video to ponder. What do you think of the school. I must admit I
> am a big fan.
>
> http://www.berklee.edu/cgi-bin/php [...] s/Berklee- > 256.mov&w=320&h=260
>
> Todd
>
>
Berklee? Never heard of it.
Located in Boston. Has a decent reputation from what I've heard; it's
not a rip-off of Berkley despite the similarity of names. I've gone to a
few performances there (and a few Sonar user-group sessions).
Basically, "what I think of it" is that you should do your homework
before applying to any school.
Hey man,
I actually went and got a Bach. of Music ... Engineering major. I have had
an amazing experience there. Beeing surrounded by so many people that are,
heart and soul, into all kinds of music really opens your mind and makes you
appreciate each other. Even the Profs were actually really into Music, as
opposed to the guys that just hang around a college because they couldn't
really cut it in the real world. Go ahead and check out some of the guys
credits. And as much as the teachers are fairly blunt about the reality of
the harchness of the corporate Music industry, it was still an unadulterated
spot to really study your art and not think too much about the
disappointments and bitterness out there. I didn't feel cheated really,
since they really were pretty clear about the whole "money drives
everything" reality, but it let me draw a lot of artistic freedom and power
that I still need to not get too caught up in all the bull out there, and
remember why I got into this thing Music ... I know: a little to poetic for
some people that have been bitter for so long, but that is just really what
I felt there.
The realworld preperation was great in a sense of testing in a microcosm.
Berklee has a small "Label" that the students run.But from A&R to producers,
artists, players, studios, engineers, royalty dept., everything was done by
students. It was a great prep for the realworld. Shows your the money flow,
and in a micro-sense who's but is going to be kissed by who.
In terms of equipment: We had 3 SSL 4K's, and a bunch of Sony MXR's and
02R's to play around, and dispite the ProTool thing still plenty of Tape
around. Here in Nashville I have a heard time finding assistants that still
have that part of it together, and usually need a tech to align the machine
if I don't do I myself. A lot more outboard gear than I could even
comprehend back then ... Noone really told me "how cool of a compressor the
1176 is", but they asked us to compare a lot of gear without any
preconceptions. Pultec, Drawmer (yup, lot's of the famous gates;-),
Tubetech, Fern, tons of Urei, GML, and a killer Tech crew, run by a rather
unsocial, but very nice FREAKIN' GENIUS. You guys would be as entertained as
amazed at some of the mods that were done to some of the gear. In terms of
DAW's: lots of PT and SonicSolutions. I can truely say that when I started
working after school I may have not been the best mixing engineer out there,
but at no point did I feel like I was overwhelmed assisting, and soon
running a serious session. There is no question that I didn't continue
learning a ton in the "real world", but I was well prepared.
The other great thing about the school: They MAKE you play your instrument,
and take Eartraining, Harmony and Arranging classes for two years (at
least) in order to get your Bachelors Degree. You will have no problems
reading, transcribing during a session.
You get out of it what you put in. There are always duds graduating, and
there is even the occasional dud teaching, but if you are really wanting to
work and are passionate, there are few limits to Berklee as far as I can
see.
I also haven't really met anyone (as much as there have to be at least some
out there to be realistic ...) who had a bad Berklee experience, but I will
leave that up for the masses ;-)
Long answer --- sorry.
Peace,
Ted
"Todd McFadden" <toddbear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:L6ydnUknebhps6benZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Well, I managed to introduce a lot of controversy (and even start a couple
> of fights) with my post about the infamous Behringer article. Now I give
> you this video to ponder. What do you think of the school. I must admit
> I
> am a big fan.
>
> http://www.berklee.edu/cgi-bin/php [...] s/Berklee- > 256.mov&w=320&h=260
>
> Todd
>
>
In article <64OdnaG_R42y5KbeRVn-ug@comcast.com>, jstolpe@comcast.net says...
>
>Hey man,
>I actually went and got a Bach. of Music ... Engineering major. I have had
>an amazing experience there. Beeing surrounded by so many people that are,
>heart and soul, into all kinds of music really opens your mind and makes you
>appreciate each other. Even the Profs were actually really into Music, as
>opposed to the guys that just hang around a college because they couldn't
>really cut it in the real world. Go ahead and check out some of the guys
>credits. And as much as the teachers are fairly blunt about the reality of
>the harchness of the corporate Music industry, it was still an unadulterated
>spot to really study your art and not think too much about the
>disappointments and bitterness out there. I didn't feel cheated really,
>since they really were pretty clear about the whole "money drives
>everything" reality, but it let me draw a lot of artistic freedom and power
>that I still need to not get too caught up in all the bull out there, and
>remember why I got into this thing Music ... I know: a little to poetic for
>some people that have been bitter for so long, but that is just really what
>I felt there.
That's a bit of a false dilemma; be an airhead or be bitter?
I remember Berklee soliciting students on usenet over 10 years ago. I
considered going that route myself. It's got to be more respectable than the
typical recording-schools we have locally, which are little more than schemes
to collect student loans from idiots. Still, I figure most 'real' universities
have music programs, so I'd do that before going to a music school. Plus since
I don't have any student loans I could get one if I ever need it, unlike those
who frittered their loans away in their youth at the music or hairdressing
school.
>The realworld preperation was great in a sense of testing in a microcosm.
>Berklee has a small "Label" that the students run.But from A&R to producers,
>artists, players, studios, engineers, royalty dept., everything was done by
>students. It was a great prep for the realworld. Shows your the money flow,
>and in a micro-sense who's but is going to be kissed by who.
>In terms of equipment: We had 3 SSL 4K's, and a bunch of Sony MXR's and
>02R's to play around, and dispite the ProTool thing still plenty of Tape
>around. Here in Nashville I have a heard time finding assistants that still
>have that part of it together, and usually need a tech to align the machine
>if I don't do I myself. A lot more outboard gear than I could even
>comprehend back then ... Noone really told me "how cool of a compressor the
>1176 is", but they asked us to compare a lot of gear without any
>preconceptions. Pultec, Drawmer (yup, lot's of the famous gates;-),
>Tubetech, Fern, tons of Urei, GML, and a killer Tech crew, run by a rather
>unsocial, but very nice FREAKIN' GENIUS. You guys would be as entertained as
>amazed at some of the mods that were done to some of the gear. In terms of
>DAW's: lots of PT and SonicSolutions. I can truely say that when I started
>working after school I may have not been the best mixing engineer out there,
>but at no point did I feel like I was overwhelmed assisting, and soon
>running a serious session. There is no question that I didn't continue
>learning a ton in the "real world", but I was well prepared.
>The other great thing about the school: They MAKE you play your instrument,
>and take Eartraining, Harmony and Arranging classes for two years (at
>least) in order to get your Bachelors Degree. You will have no problems
>reading, transcribing during a session.
>You get out of it what you put in. There are always duds graduating, and
>there is even the occasional dud teaching, but if you are really wanting to
>work and are passionate, there are few limits to Berklee as far as I can
>see.
>I also haven't really met anyone (as much as there have to be at least some
>out there to be realistic ...) who had a bad Berklee experience, but I will
>leave that up for the masses ;-)
>Long answer --- sorry.
>Peace,
>Ted
>
>"Todd McFadden" <toddbear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>news:L6ydnUknebhps6benZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>> Well, I managed to introduce a lot of controversy (and even start a couple
>> of fights) with my post about the infamous Behringer article. Now I give
>> you this video to ponder. What do you think of the school. I must admit
>> I
>> am a big fan.
>>
>> http://www.berklee.edu/cgi-bin/php [...] s/Berklee- >> 256.mov&w=320&h=260
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>
>
Todd McFadden <toddbear@adelphia.net> wrote:
>Well, I managed to introduce a lot of controversy (and even start a couple
>of fights) with my post about the infamous Behringer article. Now I give
>you this video to ponder. What do you think of the school. I must admit I
>am a big fan.
Of Berklee?
Well, a couple regular posters here teach there, and at least one fellow
is a student there, so they have some representation in the group. They
do seem to be a real college, with a more diversified education than
a typical conservatory.
--scott
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