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How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you can
jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on my
table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
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"t.hoehler" <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you
can
> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on
my
> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
>
> Happy listening to all,
> Tom
>
Find a "45 adaptor" on eBay...to fit the big hole. Goes over your regular
spindle. Or buy a set of plastic 45 adaptors that go on (one to each) 45
and adapt it to the regular spindle.
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t.hoehler <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote:
> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you can
> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on my
> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
You could ream the center hole out a bit in the proper direction, until
it can be played centered..
--
-S.
"We started to see evidence of the professional groupie in the early 80's.
Alarmingly, these girls bore a striking resemblance to Motley Crue." --
David Lee Roth
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Sorry, misread your original post.
Harry
"Harry Lavo" <harry.lavo@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> "t.hoehler" <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:kFaMc.12351$eM2.3484@attbi_s51...
> > How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large
collection
> > of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
> > there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you
> can
> > jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post
on
> my
> > table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Happy listening to all,
> > Tom
> >
>
> Find a "45 adaptor" on eBay...to fit the big hole. Goes over your regular
> spindle. Or buy a set of plastic 45 adaptors that go on (one to each) 45
> and adapt it to the regular spindle.
>
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t.hoehler wrote:
> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you can
> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on my
> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
>
==============================
Decades ago, before vinyl had collector's value, on some records I
enlarged the hole carefully with a file until they ran true, then made a
mark on the label, showing which side of the elongated hole was to be
pushed against the spindle. Then marked the other side in the same manner.
These days I play records with off-center holes on a turntable with
removable spindle, such as the Dual multiple-play model that I keep
around in running condition for this purpose and others (such as "Sing
Along with Mitch Miller" at Christmastime). No, it's theoretically not
as good as the primary turntable but bad decentration of records pretty
much destroys any illusion of accurate reproduction, so it sounds BETTER
on such records.
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In article <kFaMc.12351$eM2.3484@attbi_s51>,
"t.hoehler" <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote:
> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you can
> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on my
> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
Nakamichi made a Dragon turntable that centered lps, although I would
assume they are rare and who know how hard to keep in running condition.
If the records in question aren't rare or valuable or otherwise
irreplaceable, you could widen the existing hole and mark pointers to
the center on the label.
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That works fine, although it is so rare to find a record so badly
off-center that it would be worthwhile. I probably have a few out of
thousands. They could be returned for replacements when they were
made, so they got weeded-out pretty well. Most stores will still send
them back for replacements if you find a defect (heck, if you can even
find a new Lp much less a defective one!). The use of a record clamp
will keep the record firmly in place and remove slight warpage if you
do decide to file away some material.
-Bill
www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA
(540) 343-1250
"Gene Poon" <sheehans@ap.net> wrote in message
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> t.hoehler wrote:
>
> > How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large
collection
> > of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't
laugh,
> > there was some great music on those little discs with the big
hole), you can
> > jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center
post on my
> > table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
> >
> ==============================
>
> Decades ago, before vinyl had collector's value, on some records I
> enlarged the hole carefully with a file until they ran true, then
made a
> mark on the label, showing which side of the elongated hole was to
be
> pushed against the spindle. Then marked the other side in the same
manner.
>
> These days I play records with off-center holes on a turntable with
> removable spindle, such as the Dual multiple-play model that I keep
> around in running condition for this purpose and others (such as
"Sing
> Along with Mitch Miller" at Christmastime). No, it's theoretically
not
> as good as the primary turntable but bad decentration of records
pretty
> much destroys any illusion of accurate reproduction, so it sounds
BETTER
> on such records.
>
> -GP
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On 7/23/04 1:06 PM, in article 0AbMc.150294$IQ4.4555@attbi_s02, "Steven
Sullivan" <ssully@panix.com> wrote:
> t.hoehler <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
>> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
>> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you can
>> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on my
>> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
>
> You could ream the center hole out a bit in the proper direction, until
> it can be played centered..
I asked a friend of mine who is a vinyl head - and he informed me that
drilling the hole out is the main way he deals with a hole that is
off-center.
(He also said that when they remove the record "early" from the forming
machine - I have no idea - but he seemed rather annoyed at the off-center
problem)
"t.hoehler" <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you
can
> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on
my
> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
>
> Happy listening to all,
> Tom
>
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:06:04 GMT, Steven Sullivan <ssully@panix.com>
wrote:
>t.hoehler <t.hoehler@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> How do you deal with off centered holes in LP's? I have a large collection
>> of vinyl, and this is a very annoying problem. With 45's, (don't laugh,
>> there was some great music on those little discs with the big hole), you can
>> jockey the disc around enough to make it run true, but the center post on my
>> table won't come out in order to center an LP. Any suggestions?
>
>You could ream the center hole out a bit in the proper direction, until
>it can be played centered..
Yes, I've had to do that with a couple of treasured performances. It
really does work, especially if you put a marker on the label to
indicate where to butt the record against the spindle.
It's nice that we don't have to worry about that kind of thing
nowadays! :-)
--
Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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MINe 109 wrote:
> Nakamichi made a Dragon turntable that centered lps, although I would
> assume they are rare and who know how hard to keep in running condition.
============================================
Not only are they rare, but it is hard to get ANY support of any kind
from NakUSA (the USA successor to Nakamichi after their bankruptcy)
these days.
I have left five voice-mail messages for their Service department about
necessary service work to a CD player that is part of an integrated and
centrally remote-controlled Nakamichi component system; and have
received not one reply. I should have gotten a call after a sixth
attempt but got an ill-tempered witch on the phone, who promised replies
within (first) a half hour or so, then (second) an hour or so, then
(third) an hour and a half. When I questioned the increasing timeframe
of the anticipated reply, she hung up on me. Probably that message was
never left.
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