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a b D Laptop
May 12, 2007 9:49:44 PM

From some research and help from forum members, the following is a list of the laptops that will be available with the Santa Rosa platform:( CPU available, screen size, GPU)

MSI
MS-1221 (T7100, 12.1", GMA X3100)

Dell
Latitude D630 (T7100, 14.1", GMA X3100)
Latitude D830 (T7100, 15.1", GMA X3100)
Inspiron 1720 (T7100-7500, 17'', 8600GT)
Inspiron 1520 (T7100-7500, 15.4'', 8600GT)
Vostro 1500 (T7500, 15.4'', ???)
Vostro 1700 (T7500, 17'', ???)
XPS 1330 (T7100-T7700, 13.3'', 8400GS)

Asus:
A8SC-A1 (T7100, 14.1'', 8400m)
G2S (T7500, 17'', unknown)
G1S (T7500, 15.4'', 8600m GT)
F3SC-A1 (T7100, 15.4'', 8400m)
F3SV-A1/B1 (T7300/7500, 15.4'', 8600m)
A7S-A1 (T7300, 17'', 8400m)
W7S (T7100-7500, 13'', 8400m)

HP:
DV9500T (T7100-T7500, 17'',8400m)
DV6500T (T7100-T7300, 15.4'', 8400m)
DV2500T (T7100-T7300, 14.1'', 8400m)
HDX (T7700, 20'', HD2600)

Acer:
Aspire 5920 (T7300, 15.4'', 8600GTm)
Aspire 5720 (Unknown, 15.4'', unknown)
Aspire 7720 (unknown, 17'', unknown)
Aspire 9920 (unknown, 20'', unknown)

Samsung:
Q45 (T7100, 12.1'', 8400m)

Lenovo:
T61 (up to T7700, 14.1'', Quadro NVS 140m)
3000 N200 (T7100, 14.1", GMA X3100)

Apple
MBP (2.2 GHz, 15.4", GeForce 8600M GT 128MB)
MBP (2.4 GHz, 15.4", GeForce 8600M GT 256MB)
MBP (2.4 GHz, 17", GeForce 8600M GT 256MB )

Toshiba:
Qosmio G40 (T7300, 17'', 8600GTm)
Tecra M9 (T7100, 14.1", GMA X3100)
Sattelite X205 (T7300, 17'', 8700mGT)
By popular request:
Killer Notebooks:
Executioner SR (T7500 & X7800 - 17", 7950)
Wakizachi SR (T7500 & X7800 - 15.4", 8500-8600m)
ōdachi (T7500 & X7800 - 17", 2x 7950)



If anyone has more info or suggestions, feel free to chime in. I will continue to update the list when I can.
May 12, 2007 11:04:43 PM

Here are 3 more, and we actually have the CPU's now.
Killer Notebooks Executioner SR T7500 & X7800 - 17"
Killer Notebooks Wakiazchi SR T7500 & X7800 - 15.4"
Killer Notebooks ōdachi T7500 & X7800 - 17" Dual GPU
a b D Laptop
May 12, 2007 11:18:06 PM

Very nice. They will be added to the list. Can I ask what an X7800 is? And when these laptops will be available?
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May 12, 2007 11:25:57 PM

X7800 is a Mobile Extreme Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa Platform CPU
2.6 Ghz unlocked

Systems will be available beginning of June.
a b D Laptop
May 12, 2007 11:33:21 PM

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X7800 is a Mobile Extreme Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa Platform CPU
2.6 Ghz unlocked

Heh, I kinda figured that out after I posted that Q. silly me :roll:

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Systems will be available beginning of June.


That is excellent news. I know I will be looking at the Wakizachi. Hopefully will buy it if I can afford it.

Another question. Any idea on what GPUs all three will use?
Most of the ones I posted are 8600m or 8400m so additional ifo would be great.
May 12, 2007 11:45:44 PM

killer how about the gpu's
May 13, 2007 3:06:21 AM

Wakazachi from 8500/8600
Executioner and ōdachi will have 7950's to start with.

The 85/8600's can't compete with the 7950's.
a b D Laptop
May 13, 2007 3:34:41 AM

Thanks a lot man! Exactly what I needed to know.
Now I have to update the list... a job for tomorrow!
May 17, 2007 3:16:25 PM

It'd be great if you could put in GPU options on the list :)  That's the main thing I'm looking at right now, already decided on everything else. Also, release dates would be great, I'm looking to get a laptop ASAP, want a Santa Rosa laptop but don't want to wait too long.

Good list, thx :) 
a b D Laptop
May 17, 2007 4:40:11 PM

The GPUs will be added soon, maybe today since I took a sick day. As far as releases, don't expect any 8 series before June.
May 17, 2007 4:46:41 PM

The 8xxx series that was supposedly coming out in May according to all the Sager "distributors" out there?
May 17, 2007 5:24:46 PM

Here is Engadget's full roundup
a b D Laptop
May 17, 2007 5:49:35 PM

Yeah, I had heard June from a site that previewed Santa Rosa. Meh, either way May/June.

Thanks for the link samurai.

List has been updated a bit. Still have a few more laptops to add and GPUs to find, but don't have the time right now. Expect more by the weekend.
May 17, 2007 7:00:57 PM

If you have extra time feel free to spend it here.
May 18, 2007 2:01:52 AM

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The 8xxx series that was supposedly coming out in May according to all the Sager "distributors" out there?
Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
May 24, 2007 11:11:21 PM

I can't wait to get my hands on the Executioner SR!
May 25, 2007 12:05:44 AM

But aren't you pumped that it is DELL's 23rd anniversary? LOL

I can't wait to see what the X7800 can be overclocked to. I'm sure 3 GHz easy and that is crazy good as far as I'm concerned!!! Think of like 2 years ago, if I tols you, oh yea, 6GHz combined CPU power is right around the corner, when we were stinking twozies? I wouldn't have believed it.

May 25, 2007 12:32:03 AM

haha, Dell is trying to run promos and what not on the XPS laptops, if you go through the Dell WebSupport.. BIG WHOOP. lol id rather not
May 27, 2007 12:20:53 AM

by 8xxx series in November you mean the 8800 Enthusiast mobile gpu that nvidia has mentioned on their site? i had heard July. :s
May 27, 2007 2:34:16 PM

I think you are going to see 8600's GPU's in July, but not the 8800's.
You will know in advance because like always, DELL will get the part months before anyone else in a back door deal. Amazing, and you would think the other box builders would call foul and contact the FTC about it, but it happens over, and over again.

JayJr, I would edit your email address off your post so the bots don't harvest it and spam you to death.
May 30, 2007 3:58:36 PM

I have a few more:

MSI
MS-1221 (T7100, 12.1", GMA X3100)

Dell
Latitude D630 (T7100, 14.1", GMA X3100)
Latitude D830 (T7100, 15.1", GMA X3100)

Lenovo
3000 N200 (T7100, 14.1", GMA X3100)
ThinkPad T61 (T7300, 14.1", NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M)

Toshiba
Tecra M9 (T7100, 14.1", GMA X3100
June 1, 2007 5:35:39 PM

If I could just say one thing in my experience with MSI...

Stay as far away from them as possible.
June 1, 2007 5:53:17 PM

When can we expect to be able to buy Santa rosa laptops with decent DX10 GPUs?
June 1, 2007 6:15:25 PM

Hey K|N when are your SR notebooks going to be available.. officially?
a b D Laptop
June 1, 2007 7:52:15 PM

Awesome. You will hopefully be hearing from me around that time. Still haven't made up my mind between desktop and laptop.
June 1, 2007 9:54:18 PM

That seems like an eternity! i want it nowww!
a b D Laptop
June 1, 2007 10:09:10 PM

I had another question about the Executioner. When you update it with Centrino Pro, are the T7500 and X7800 going to be the only options or will you keep the T72-7600? Or are you going to offer the rest of the line up (i.e. T7100 and T7300)? Oh well, that was 2 questions, so I lied. Oh, I miss spelled Wakizachi in the line-up. I can't believe no one corrected me :lol: 
June 1, 2007 11:28:58 PM

I was also wondering if the Executioner SR is capable of/or is going to have a 8800 GTS?
a b D Laptop
June 1, 2007 11:39:00 PM

I asked him the same thing in a PM and he said "I do not think the old models are going to take the 8800 cards when they come out.
We shall see what differences there are in 2 weeks when the new chassis are released".

So as of right now it doesn't look like it.

Sorry, Mark, if you didn't want that posted. If you want it removed let me know.
June 4, 2007 12:29:58 PM

Awesome. You will hopefully be hearing from me around that time. Still haven't made up my mind between desktop and laptop.
Why choose? Sneak peak Killer Notebooks Odachi

The Executioner SR should take the 8800 cards. The GPU interface is being changed to nVidia's MXM IV module.

I had another question about the Executioner. When you update it with Centrino Pro, are the T7500 and X7800 going to be the only options or will you keep the T72-7600?
Wish I could, but in Intel's infinite wisdom, they have changed the socket, so the Teven's won't work. It will use a 7500, 7700, or x7800 CPU (for now, Intel is adding more later... allegedly) I can get the lower CPU's if need be.

June 4, 2007 3:37:10 PM

sorry, damn connection posted it twice :oops: 
June 4, 2007 3:38:15 PM

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Oh, I miss spelled Wakizachi in the line-up. I can't believe no one corrected me :lol: 

I guess because no one cares about your list? :wink:
I think i know what i will go with - Clevo 570ru. http://www.eurocom.com/gallery/189/index.html One of the best looking NB i have seen, a little bulky but that orange trim., and will be available with 8800M (or 8700 - whatever). Looks like will be out there in about 1 month.
8800M : http://theinq.com/default.aspx?article=40032
June 4, 2007 3:51:38 PM

Damn you ToalMander! Now I'm gonna have to wait even more for this laptop to come out! Its so nice!

Whats the price of that baby?
June 4, 2007 4:30:44 PM

Some people never learn, and I simply can't keep up with the foolishness anymore.
:arrow: VISTA was to be released 3 months before it actually was.
:arrow: I was promised systems in DECEMBER '06 that I am getting tomorrow (June 5th) from the ODM.
:arrow: 160 Gig 7,200 rpm hard drives were supposed to be out mid-April, which is in reality mid-June.
:arrow: 8800 cards were going be out next week, since March!
:arrow: DX-10, DX-10, DX-10... where are your DX-10 games?!!? You don't even have a viable OS to play them on since you need to have VISTA, and VISTA is total crap!!!
When are you guys going to realize that they are going to tell you WHATEVER you want to hear... but that doesn't make the time lines anywhere near realistic! You just keep feeding into the hype, and lose track of what is actually IMPORTANT about the system you buy, which is get it from someone who knows WTF they are doing and doesn't BS you!

Here's an oversimplification you can wrap your mind around so I can put this into perspective...
DOES DELL HAVE THE 8800 MOBILE CARDS?
BECAUSE DELL GETS EVERYTHING MONTHS BEFORE THE COMPETITION BECAUSE DELL DWARFS EVERY FIEFDOM IN THE "KINGDOM OF OTHER"
.

The "Kingdom of Other" is when you look at the PC box builder graph and see DELL, HP/COMPAQ and the big names then you see, "Other"... which is all the gaming boutique shops like KillerNotebooks, Eurocom, VooDoo, Falcon-Northwest (and I have to include the wanna be "distributors" out there that don't even build their systems). These guys combined could be something, but they are not combined... even if they were their sales are something that Mikey DELL pretty much scrapes off his boots after riding his equestrians before tea.

This, BTW this the same Eurocom that the Executioner beat down in the original Tom's Hardware review... Executioner delivers "last rites" to Eurocom.
So what's their encore? I would be happy to give them a rematch.
June 4, 2007 5:05:44 PM

No1 talked about eurocom, just happens that they have a photo gallery of the Clevo 570ru.

Not many DX10 games are out right now, thats true, but in 2 years, they will all be DX10, Vista will have service packs, etc... Unless you change your laptop every 6 months, I believe its useful to be future-proof, even if it means a few more weeks of waiting.
June 4, 2007 5:40:18 PM

You're so caught up in the hype.
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Not many DX10 games are out right now
Name ONE that is out right now that I can go get it and play it so I can give a review on the sheer awesomeness that is DX-10.
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but in 2 years, they will all be DX10
Are you upper management of Blizzard or something? Why would a game manufacturer exclusively cater to a micro cross section of the gaming community? Most of the time they actually want to make money. They might as well design for Linux, and really NOT MAKE MONEY if that is the case.

You're acting like DX-10 games won't play on a DX-9c machines, which simply isn't true. They will.
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Vista will have service packs, etc...
No big service packs for MS VISTA
Service Pack 1 for VISTA may come in October/November.

It's article after article of conjecture, that is my point, they'll tell you whatever you want to hear! If Eurocom gets 8800's, WE will have 8800's, everyone will!!! But you DO NOT see DELL with them, and THEY are going to be the first ones to have them!
If you think this is weeks away, you're sadly mistaken.
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Unless you change your laptop every 6 months, I believe its useful to be future-proof, even if it means a few more weeks of waiting.
Honestly, THERE IS NO WAY TO FUTURE PROOF A NOTEBOOK. You can try, and Killer Notebooks tries very hard to stretch as much as they can out for their customers, but it simply is NOT POSSIBLE to buy a notebook today and think that in 2 years you are going to be still on top of the heap. It isn't going to happen. Think of all the BS you were force fed 2 years ago, and that if you had a Pentium M 2.16 and 2GB of DDR-333 you would be set for life!
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The Executioner SR should take the 8800 cards. The GPU interface is being changed to nVidia's MXM IV module.
See, no where in there am I guarantying something that is unknowable like SO MANY OF THESE GUYS. I think honesty is the best policy in business.

I know WE will have x7800 unlocked CPU's... I know that. Does Eurocom allow their customers to upgrade components to "future proof" their notebook along the way? Because as people contacted us
about buying 7900 class GPU's for their older systems from OTHER manufacturers, we told them we could get them from OUR existing customers, and ALL EXISTING K|N customers that wanted to upgrade their 7900's were able to for the cost of the difference between a 7900 and 7950 n (about $100). I would like to hear of ANY other company doing that.

Man, you guys have to realize that who you buy from determines what level of service and support you will get in the future and where the bar will be set in this... YOUR gaming industry!
June 4, 2007 5:53:50 PM

PS. I am sorry I went off on that last post.
I got this new coffee and I think I have had a little too much today.

:oops: 
June 4, 2007 6:18:04 PM

Me personally, i would rather have a notebook that i know will have the service and support from someone that actually cares about their customers. Killer|Notebooks is run by someone that wont tell you what you want to hear just to get your business. He actually tells you the truth about what is actually going to happen. To other companies, we are just a number in their statistics of people they have persuaded and scammed to buy their sub-par components for asinine prices. I'd rather have honesty and modesty then lies and cries for your business.
a b D Laptop
June 4, 2007 7:24:01 PM

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Oh, I miss spelled Wakizachi in the line-up. I can't believe no one corrected me :lol: 

I guess because no one cares about your list? :wink:


That was uncalled for and wrong btw. Over 1300 views and 40 post. No one cares. right....

@ JayJr: the stuff you posted is exactly why I am most likely going to get an Executioner. I could buy the same thing (not really) from Sager or some other company, but will I get the fast responses and excellent support like K|N? Not a freakin chance. I read up on Sager and while they have some very well built notebooks, their support is god-awful.

@K|N: when you change to the T7500 how much will the price jump if any? I assume it will since it's superior to the T7200, but I wanna know if it'll jump a lot or just a little.
June 4, 2007 9:13:13 PM

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We still love you man :D 

Check out these guys - ahead of the entire planet - ETA June

http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/products.asp?c1=3&c2=15 :lol: 


ahead of the entire planet in charging you $7000.00 excluding shipping. Add shipping from Australia, and you have a $7500.00 bill for a laptop with a desktop chip and dual 8800's that will fry in less then a week of you getting the notebook.

Thats too much of an investment for something that wont even last you a couple months at the most.

but wait.. they offer DVD-RW SPINDLE 25 Pack free Special Offer Free!.. that makes it so much funnier.
June 4, 2007 9:40:08 PM

K|N, you keep refering to eurocom (you seem to hate them with a passion), but the point was simply that Clevo was to release a very nice lookin laptop... not eurocom.

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Name ONE that is out right now that I can go get it and play it so I can give a review on the sheer awesomeness that is DX-10.

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You're acting like DX-10 games won't play on a DX-9c machines, which simply isn't true. They will.

I'm aware of the fact that there might be no DX10 games out yet, but there definitely will. Yes, you can run DX10 games even if ur hardware is DX9c, but its just slower and eats up more CPU. Exactly like every other DX transitions in the past.

As for vista service packs, I didnt read the links u posted, but one of them seem to say there will be one in october/november, which is what I expected. Service packs or not, there will be fixes anyways.

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it simply is NOT POSSIBLE to buy a notebook today and think that in 2 years you are going to be still on top of the heap


Im not expecting that a laptop will still be on top after 2 years, but it will at least still be decent and able to still run mostly every new games/apps.

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I would like to hear of ANY other company doing that.

We're not arguing about that... we're just saying Clevo is releasing a nice notebook... one that K|N most likely can buy as well.
a b D Laptop
June 4, 2007 10:59:30 PM

Eurocom and Sager he seems to hate. Don't take his rant personally, after all he did apologize for it. He also does make a point about DX10. Everyone is making a huge deal about stuff that hasn't come out yet and will still be useable on somewhat dated hardware.

Those laptops Toal linked are very expensive and are no different than that Sager notebook that made the same claims and STILL hasn't showed up yet. They even removed the 8800's from the list cuz guess what? They're not ready yet. I highly doubt an 8800 will make a workable appearance before July at the earliest. It is way too hot to put into a laptop yet. From what I've seen in user comments even the 8600GT runs a little warm.
June 5, 2007 3:01:52 AM

Think of this for a second... we are the ONLY company actually moding heat sinks and addressing the problems you guys are talking about. Most of these other guys aren't even building the machines!
June 6, 2007 2:12:36 AM

Why dont you talk about these cooling mods you're making on K|N's website? I havent found it and I'd like to know what mods you're making, looks interesting.
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