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"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> And the other thing about System Restore that I didn't like is the one
> time
> I tried it it did nothing but stop the system from booting. Hey it wasn't
> any good before the System Restore but it was a hellofa lot worse after
> doing it. All because of a bunch of XP Plus free d/ls from Microsoft and
> their IE security updates. I agree we need to have a way to validate
> System
> Restore points as we go.
>
> --
> George Hester
I have found system restore to be a last ditch effort before I reinstall
windows. It rarely works as advertised. Even when it seems work I usually
get the computer back with complaints of some applications not working
right, or general complaints of "something's not right". For an
inexperienced user it might be useful if they created a restore point
immediately before installing a program or driver. It may be easier for them
to do a system restore rather than an uninstall or rollback if something
went drastically wrong. Also a lot of malware hides in system restore files.
It is a good idea that is poorly implemented in my opinion.
Kerry
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> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:OJnrOJ0bFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Data Recovery can be a problem. I can remember allot of times in
>> Corporate work where a tape backup failed on us. Just because a
>> backup or image completes doesn't always guarantee recovery. I
>> also run a Verify pass on the image to raise the confidence level in
>> it. Since I use Drive Image, I also use Image Explorer which allows
>> me to actually explore into the image set and examine folders/files.
>> I've don't use incremental backups/images since I don't want to
>> have to keep Parent/Child data sets. Except for personal data loss,
>> there's nothing worse than having an Image or Backup that isn't
>> valid or is somehow corrupted. That issue, is my main qualm with
>> System Restore - no validation or way to verify that the points are
>> OK and can be counted on when needed.
>>
>>
>> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
>> news:ubmnTB0bFHA.2960@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> > news:uDUBZSnbFHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> Franktee wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> > After doing two successful clean installs on my computer I have
> finally
>> >> > realized the importance of backing all my files and settings.
>> >> > I would like to backup my harddrive to a Cd but being somewhat of a
>> > computer
>> >> > novice, my backup knowledge is very limited to say the least. I
>> >> > would
>> >> > appreciate if someone would kindly show me how to go about doing
> this.
>> >> > Thank you in advance.
>> >> > Franktee
>> >>
>> >> There are at least several approaches. One is to use an imaging
>> >> program. This makes an exact image of the partition which can be
>> >> saved
>> >> on CD/DVD or to another drive - internal or external. [In general
> there
>> >> is little value in created a backup on another internal drive. Best is
>> >> to backup to an external USB 2.0 or firewire drive]. Restores can be
>> >> done of the entire partition or individual files / folders. These work
>> >> well and make it easy to recover from a drive crash. Examples of this
>> >> are:
>> >>
>> >> Norton Ghost 9.0
>> >> Drive Image 7 (still available in some places; the maker -
>> >> Powerquest -
>> >> was bought out by Symantec and is now Norton Ghost 9 with some
>> >> changes)
>> >> Acronis True Image
>> >> Image for Windows (Terabyte Unlimited)
>> >> BootItNg (Terabyte Unlimited)
>> >>
>> >> The second option is a traditional backup program such as Stompsoft's
>> >> Backup My PC. This is an excellent tool. It is the evolution of
>> >> ntbackup. There are other good backup programs out there as well.
> This
>> >> can do a complete backup or backup individual files and folders to
>> >> DVD/CD.
>> >>
>> >> Whatever backup solution you choose make sure to test it out so you
> know
>> >> what it does and how to use it to recover.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Rock
>> >> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> >>
>> >
>> > The scary part is doing the first trial recovery. You don't know if it
>> > will
>> > work, and your original installation will be wiped. And, sad to say,
>> > sometimes is won't work. Reasons vary from the hardware media not
>> > accessible in the recovery environment, multiple media verification
>> > failure
>> > (was common among tape drive backups) and now attributable to multiple
>> > CD/DVD media, media corruption, network environment not re-creatable in
>> > the
>> > restoration environment. You won't know this until after you or the
>> > recovery program has made a recovery target barring the network
>> > environment
>> > which you will know in advance, wiping the hard drive first. The
> recovery
>> > program will not continue until this target is available.
>> >
>> > As a further backup, a clone (not an image) is suggested on a removable
>> > ide
>> > hard drive. Just clone it back to its orignal source. Or use it just
>> > like
>> > the original hard drive by putting it on the ide ribbon cable of the
>> > former
>> > hard drive ribbon location. If you buy a new hard drive, buy two, and
> use
>> > one for a clone target. Image recovery is much faster, so I tend to
> rely
>> > on
>> > that myself, but still maintain a clone. Overkill to some, but makes a
>> > whole lotta sense to me.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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