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The Half-Life 2 offers have been finalized. Details are pasted below. The Steam offers will be available for purchase next week. Those who purchase via Steam, will receive the final version of Counter-Strike: Source immediately. Half-Life 2 and other games in the Steam offerings will be made available to purchasers upon their release.
Half-Life 2 Offers
RETAIL BOX:
1. Standard Edition:
-- Half-Life 2
-- Counter-Strike: Source
Note: Ships on six CDs. Three different box designs will be made available at launch (cover characters change on the different designs: one is Gordon, one is Alyx, and the third is the Gman).

2. Collector's Edition:
-- Half-Life 2
-- Counter-Strike: Source
-- Half-Life 1: Source
-- Half-Life 2 T-shirt
-- Prima book sampler
Note: This version will contain the games on a DVD.

STEAM OFFERINGS
1. "Bronze"
-- Half-Life 2*
-- Counter-Strike: Source
*(To be made available upon product's release.)

2. "Silver"
-- Half-Life 2*
-- Counter-Strike: Source
-- Half-Life 1: Source*
-- Day of Defeat: Source*
-- Valve's back catalog currently available on Steam *(To be made available upon products' release.)
3. "Gold"
-- Half-Life 2*
-- Counter-Strike: Source
-- Half-Life 1: Source*
-- Day of Defeat: Source*
-- Valve's back catalog currently available on Steam
-- Complete Strategy Guide from Prima Games
-- 3 different Half-Life 2 posters
-- Half-Life 2 hat
-- Half-Life 2 postcard
-- Half-Life 2 stickers
-- Half-Life 2 Soundtrack CD
-- Chance to win a trip to Valve! (1 trip offered for every 5000 Gold packages purchased).
*(To be made available upon products' release.)

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Translate please. When can I play the game? That's all I care about.

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HL2 i dunno, but very close as they have reveled package details.

Full CS Source will be given out, released officially next week.

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Reply to priyajeet

I wonder what the ATI coupon package will be ? Hope its GOLD !

Logically it should be the GOLD package.

why ?

Because, if someone wants the goodies of the GOLD package, and he/she has the ATI coupon, Valve should not make him waste his coupon and buy a seperate package ! That will be just plain simple M$ kinda tactics of looting people.

Besides we deseve it for holding back so long without any game apart from the oldies. Also the amount we invested in their (ATI) cards, some portion did goto VALVE. And they have been earning interest from that in their banks.


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<b>He who laughs last thinks slowest!</b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by priyajeet on 09/29/04 02:05 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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I think it's probably bronze. I'm sure there's upgrade options.

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Reply to silverpig

I'll probably get the silver steam package.

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Reply to silverpig

what is half life 1 source?...does it go well with ribs? :lol:

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I think its just the original Half Life game but with the HL2 Engine.

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what?! Half life 1 with up-to-date graphics?

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Man, I need to buy some more computer parts... I only have a 266 FSB board, so they fastest I can get is a 2600+. Gotta get a new graphics card too...

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Me too. But I'm getting a laptop with my new job so I'll probably get something with a 9700 in it and be fine on that end.

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Reply to dhlucke

No updated graphics... updated engine. The models and textures are the same, but the AI, physics, and rendering are new. Looks pretty much the same but will play differently.

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All good news guy I simply wish VAC could get the cheats out of the Steam system of course cheats have been present since the first DOS based and later Direct3D games on servers for Activision.

No fault of Steam they run a great service to this point and I did read some place it took a decade to compile the code for Steam to point of release and they update almost weekly. So they show the best interests of the people who use their software without charge!!

What we need to do is get a group of fairly decent people together and remove the 3dfxgl.dll Vulnerability in Steam that cheaters use in game to basically see through all the walls. We also need to address the AimBot cheat where players can run minor script files that change their computer hardware higher memory to enable them to subvert the game engine and acquire and shoot targets without having to aim with their mouse.



Half-Life Cheats & Hacks


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Half-Life has been the target of many hackers creating cheats to do just about anything. Due to its extremely popular mod Counter-Strike which attracts thousands of players at a time, hacks spread like wildfire. Half-Life has had a diverse selection of hacks and exploits, evolving rapidly along the years. Here we discuss the various types of hacks and exploits that Half-Life has gone through.

VAC Status - By Penz - 9/11/02


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Even though Valve has been releasing updates for VAC as of late, there still remains to be a substantial quantity of hacks that remain undected. There are four relatively new wallhack/aimbot combinations that work on secure servers. Furthermore, the ogc site states that one of their older hacks (a month at least) is still not detected by VAC. While i was conducting my own research, I also discovered a wallhack with a few options (no aimbot) that is quite old and NOT detected by VAC. Since this hack's original release valve has fired up a few updates and it is yet to be dected. HL Guard has a wallhack block, and it is quite effective. While Valve updates their anti-cheat, I suggest you put HLguard on your server. Though it may not detect the cheats, it will stop them to a certain extent.

All in all, the average cheater does most likely not have a working VAC proof hack, but a minority of them (especially the ones in clans) might.

Wall Hacks


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There are three major types of wall hacks: Transparent, Partial Transparent, and Sprite. Each one has a different method of achieving the wall hack effect of seeing people through walls. This gives the cheater the advantage of knowing were the enemy will be so that it's easier to kill them without them killing the cheater first. In Counter-Strike it gives the cheater the advantage of shooting through walls with powerful guns to kill the enemy.

Transparent
Transparent wall hacks make all the walls on a map transparent, usually about 50% transparent. It is like having a window with a small layer of frost, you can see through the window partially, but you can also see the frost so you know where the window (or in a game the wall) is.




Hackers achieve this effect by several methods, usually either replacing the OpenGL32.dll file in the windows system files, or they “hook” the OpenGL32 file when it is loaded into the memory, altering its information to achieve this effect. This wall hack method is harder to use for cheaters unless they know the map well, because it is harder to tell if your are actually shooting someone through open space, or through a thick wall, and navigating the map is hard. Usually these wall hacks do not have an aimbot included, which forces the hacker to use their skills.

Partial Transparency
Partial Transparency wall hacks make only certain objects transparent. Most hacks that "hook" the Half-Life game engine use this method. In the picture, all the walls are solid, but you can see through the bridge.




Things such as doors, ladders, bridges, and usually anything interactive within the map that aren’t “walls” are transparent. Most hacks that use this method have other cheating methods included such as Aimbots, ESP, Speed Hacks, etc. This method is easier to use for cheaters, since they don’t get lost as easy.

Sprites
The Sprite Method is simply an only let what you want to see be seen through the walls. This method edits OpenGL files and the memory to allow player models, and other things that are not walls, to be seen through walls.

See the hostages? Unlike the Transparent method, it shows only hostages through the walls. This is the most effective wall hack, since the cheater knows where the enemies are and the cheater doesn't see everything else behind the wall.

Autoaim/Aimbots


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An Aimbot is a program or script that aims at the enemy for the cheater. There are three different styles of Aimbots: Colored Models, Engine-Aim, and XQZ Style. Each method has a unique style of accomplishing the Aimbot effect. Aimbots are cheats because it has the computer aim for the cheater, and gives an extremely unfair advantage for the enemy, and is illegal in gaming leagues.

Colored Model
This type of aimbot was one of the very firsts, and was not very effective. The cheater would have to change their player models to models that were one color only, usually bright red for the terrorist team, and bright blue for the counter-terrorists. After the models were installed, they would run a program in the background of Half-Life. That program would scan the screen for that color of red or blue, and if it saw it, it would move the mouse over it. Not only was this ineffective, but you were more likely to aim for the foot then the head, and sometimes you would aim for parts of the map that matched the color. Anti-Cheaters created sprays with those colors, and sprayed them on walls, and if people had their crosshairs stuck on the spray, they would ban them. There has not been a hack like this for over a year, and doubt there will ever be one like this again for Half-Life.




Engine-Aim
Engine-Aim and XQZ Style are similar in a lot of ways. Engine-Aim hacks usually “hook” into the Half-Life game engine, like a positive virus. It doesn’t alter any of the gaming files usually, but instead it modifies the memory in your RAM Half-Life runs on. From there the hack has information about the current game you are in, including the location of an opponent’s head. The hack uses this information to aim for your, hence they name Engine-Aim, using actual game data to aim for the cheater. This style of Aimbot is very dynamic and customizable. The hack can watch for players anywhere around the cheater, including right behind the cheater, turn 180 degrees and kill the enemy, or only aim at players close to their crosshairs, to help lower suspicion about the cheater’s hacking.

XQZ Style
The XQZ Style gathers game data and uses it like Engine-Aim, except the user has to press a button to aim, usually the right mouse button (mouse2). This style gives more control for the cheater, so if players are suspecting them of cheating, they can stop quickly. XQZ Style was used before Engine-Aim, but many more experienced cheaters like the XQZ Style.

Extrasensory Perception (ESP)


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With the evolution of Wall Hacks and Aimbots, ESP features the next generation of hacks, since cheat programmers are always looking for new ways to enhance their hacks. ESP stands for Extrasensory Perception, they help the cheater know where other players are and give information about those players. ESP is usually only an additional feature while the Aimbot is the main feature of many hacks. There are several types of ESP's.

Radar & Map ESP
In the Half-Life modification Counter-Strike, at the top left corner of the screen is a radar. On it, during a normal, game, is displayed the location of all your teammates, hostages, and the bomb. The Radar ESP adds the location of the enemies too. It doesn’t have the location of every opponent, but when an enemy gets close, it shows up. With the integration of map overviews with CS 1.5, new hacks allow a small version of the map to be added to your screen, displaying the location of teammates and enemies.




Glow ESP
Glow ESP helps see enemies better by making them glow different colors. Usually they glow according to their respected teams, or for what weapon they are using. AdminMod allows a glow function, when it is activated it lets the player choose what color the player would like to glow, this is not a hack but a server plug in, don't get them confused.




Text ESP
Hacks that hook the gaming engine can gather information about players: Their name, health, armor, and other variables in the game. The Text ESP takes that information and displays it over the player, usually the color of the text representing the team.




Notice how the text is displayed over walls, so the cheater may not be able to see the enemy through the wall, but he knows where the enemy is. This hack is more dangerous then Wall Hacks, since it helps prevent the cheater from looking through the wall directly at the cheater and is harder to catch in first person spectator mode. Weapons, bombs, and grenades can also have text to be shown, but most of the time it is just clutter on the cheaters screen, and is not a threat to the cheater.

Smoke & Bang Hacks


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In the Half-Life modification Counter-Strike there are three types of grenades: High Explosive, Smoke Grenade, and Flashbang. The HE Grenade causes damage, but the other two impair the vision of the player. There have been hacks made to counter the visual effects of these grenades.

Anti-Smoke Hack
Smoke Grenades release clouds of smoke that are very opaque, making it very hard to see through them, giving cover, or restricting vision. Most new hacks that hook the Half-Life engine prevent the smoke from being displayed.




Every non-cheating player will see the smoke, but the hacker won’t. Many cheaters surround themselves in smoke grenades, and shoot players from the smoke clouds, even though the players being attacked can’t see the attacker.

Anti-Flash Hack

The Flashbang in the Half-Life modification Counter-Strike blinds players who are in its area, friend and foe. It causes a bright flash of light, and slowly fades away. The Anti-Flash Hack filters this out, so seven Flashbang's could go off in front of the cheater and they can still see through them. Note: Sometimes a Flashbang should blind players and it doesn’t, so if you see someone who should be Flashbanged, but isn’t, don’t automatically assume they are cheating; it’s a widely known glitch in the modification.




Crosshairs

In some Half-Life modifications like Day of Defeat and Counter-Strike, certain weapons do not have crosshairs, such as un-zoomed sniper rifles, or some crosshairs don’t show exactly where the middle is, like Day of Defeat crosshairs. Most hacks that hook the Half-Life engine put their own crosshairs, showing exactly where the center of the screen is.







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of course cheats have been present since the first DOS based and later Direct3D games on servers for Activision.




heheh cheats have been around a longer time than that. hehe why do you they think they shot ppl in the old west during poker games... heheh lmao.

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Reply to priyajeet

Well I meant in cyberpsace.....


But as an after thought cheaters are jailed hung or shot and those values were derived in real life.
That is why cheaters are classed as cowards.

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yeah i know just pickin at ya


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Dude please post the link than the whole crap next time.

BTW
Next Star Wars will be called Revenge of the Sith, just in case you didn't know.

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<---Looks for a festering sore O"O

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Jeez, you really don't know what you're talking about. Nice job copy and pasting from somewhere else, but the words you formed yourself just show how ignorant you really are.

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Reply to ksoth

The authors names are in the copy paste of the post ksoth no one said otherwise accept you.

But of course you never read the post or you would have observed that and you would not have stuck your foot down your own throat.

Have fun dancing to your own short tune on one foot ksoth.

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So you are saying the following words were not formed by you:

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All good news guy I simply wish VAC could get the cheats out of the Steam system of course cheats have been present since the first DOS based and later Direct3D games on servers for Activision.

No fault of Steam they run a great service to this point and I did read some place it took a decade to compile the code for Steam to point of release and they update almost weekly. So they show the best interests of the people who use their software without charge!!

What we need to do is get a group of fairly decent people together and remove the 3dfxgl.dll Vulnerability in Steam that cheaters use in game to basically see through all the walls. We also need to address the AimBot cheat where players can run minor script files that change their computer hardware higher memory to enable them to subvert the game engine and acquire and shoot targets without having to aim with their mouse.


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Reply to ksoth

Of course they are and what is in those words you find offensive ? unless of course you are one of the kippers hacking on the Steam Network.

Or you don't know the difference between the d3d.dll and the 3dfxgl.dll & mini driver exploit and how hackers abuse them to see through walls in games online from Quake to Counter Strike to Half life and Day Of Defeat.

If you do know don't bother posting we don't need any more of your kind in Steam.

Dont expect another reply son.

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What does Steam itself have to do with cheats in Valve games? Cheats existed in Counter-Strike long before Steam came around. Steam is a content delivery service more than anything.

Being that Valve was founded in 1996, I find it hard to believe Steam was in the works for over a decade...

I know all about the cheats in Half-Life. Not because I used them but because I use to run a CS server, and therefore had to know about them to know how to spot them. When a cheat involves files being modded other than the files of that game, it is difficult for the game itself to stop them, and for them to be spotted over the net. That's where programs like Punkbuster came in, but even they weren't perfect because the cheats only had to change slightly to avoid detection.

The "3dfxgl.dll Vulnerability in Steam that cheaters use in game to basically see through all the walls" as you so aptly put it is not a vulnerability in Steam at all. It's a hacked graphics driver, and can be used to cause transparancy in any game. A while ago some graphics cards vendors released driver sets with settings that basically enabled "wall-hack" cheats in every game. I think they were eventually pulled after huge outcries from the gaming community because they basically gave cheats to everyone with their cards. For the most part, Steam is powerless to prevent this.

Aimbots are also programs that run in the background seperate from the game. Usually they are accompanied by colored models (such as models with bright green heads), and the program scans the screen image for green and auto snaps the cursor to that position and automatically shoots for you.

You missed the ball on a lot of what you said, which is surprising considering you didn't say much.

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AAARRGHH! My focking eyes. Too much text man. Linky the mofo next time, othwerwise I'll (literally) set Eden on yer arse.

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Reply to RobD

nah, posting here was just to show the other dude what he was doing. the bigger the post, the worse it is. the one i posted is approx 11000 record breaking words, a huge review.

Yeah, i know its called revenge of the sith, but in the dvds they have released they keep referring it as revenge of darth vader.

Also, "return of the jedi" was known as "revenge of Jedi" but changed only a few days before release bcos Jedi dont take revenge, they are keepers of peace :wink:

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Reply to priyajeet

Steam uses VAC as part of their service to find and remove hackers. If cheats are detected with VAC as all the main servers in the Steam Network run you are banned for 1 year on your current CD-Key that generates your Unique Steam ID number.

As for the 3dfxgl.dll cheat that lets everyone see through walls it is still a vulnerability on the Steam network even if the cheat is run client side and not server side it's still a hack and VAC is working to find a way to prevent Client side hacking by monitoring the users Memory cache. They do that now but they are working on a better cache reader package.

You are bleating off like a lost sheep about little itty bitty details trying to find a way to validate your theory's when in fact you don't have any at all.

Facts is facts I don't care who you are. If you don't like hearing the truth call Steam up on da phone and ask them yourself or contact technical support they will tell you the same thing.

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We reported yesterday about the latest information on the ways you will be able to purchase Half-Life 2 upon its release.

Well now, we can also confirm thanks to HLFallout's forum member, pinnappe, that holders of the ATi voucher that was originally only to grant people access to Half-Life 2, will now be granting holders full access to Counter-Strike: Source with the Bronze Steam package. Here's the original response from Valve:

Hello,

The ATI coupon vouchers will be transfered automatically to the Bronze Package. We will be offering upgrades to silver and gold for additional cost, but the details have not been fully worked out yet.

Thanks,
Jon
Steam Tech Support

It also becomes clear that voucher holders will be able to upgrade their access to the Gold and Silver packages if so desired.

Thanks to our forum member, Sinnsykt, for posting the information in this thread but of course even more thanks to HLFallout's forum member, pinnappe, for finding out the information and posting it here

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I see.

Well, it's still got a year before it can change.

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pc gamer gives hl2 96%

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Reply to priyajeet

HL2 offers this thursday, prices are out. CS source to be out also.

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<A HREF="http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=325" target="_new">CS: Source out tomorrow (Oct 7 11 am Pacific)</A>

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