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I get my best laughs from all the specs for high-end CD players.
Goodness, you can pay up to $10K or so, and for this you get a heavy unit
with all kinds of ultimate suspensions for the drive, non-resonate metals,
etc., etc.

The problem with all this is that "everyone" seems to think that a CD
drive has the same "problems" as a turntable that plays vinyl. Nothing
could be further from the truth. The difference is BUFFERING and/or CACHE a
concept that has come down from the earliest days of computer
hardware/software technology. Let me explain.

Buffering via a cache simply means you have a holding area into which
flows the input signals from the read mechanism and from which data is drawn
at a fixed rate. This compensates for any delays in transmission for the
original source. Think of a bucket with water flowing in unevenly but
smoothly flowing out through a tube at the bottom at a fixed rate. The
difference here is we are talking speeds measured in microseconds.

The laser in the device's read head detects the off-on condition on the
surface of the CD and sends it to an intermediate circuits where any read
errors are corrected (or attempts are made) and this is forwarded into a
memory module acting as an last-in/last-out buffer. I have a fairly
inexpensive (well under $100) portable CD player that has such a large
buffer that you can knock it around and never hear a glitch in the output.

So much for massive CD read mechanisms mounted in ultra shock resistant
mountings in a ultra heavy chassis.

So, the sad fact is that if you hear any "distortion" from a CD player
it comes from the circuits that handle the output from the buffer and
translates that into the SPIF/DF format. And, that my friends, I think is a
function of the quality of the power supply.

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Jim wrote:
> I get my best laughs from all the specs for high-end CD players.
> Goodness, you can pay up to $10K or so, and for this you get a heavy
unit
> with all kinds of ultimate suspensions for the drive, non-resonate
metals,
> etc., etc.
>
> The problem with all this is that "everyone" seems to think that
a CD
> drive has the same "problems" as a turntable that plays vinyl.
Nothing
> could be further from the truth. The difference is BUFFERING and/or
CACHE a
> concept that has come down from the earliest days of computer
> hardware/software technology. Let me explain.

Good info. I can buy a $20 CD-ROM and slap it in my computer, and use
it to install an OS off CD, and it'll do it in a few minutes, without
missing a single byte :) Now, it's true that the ISO9660 filesystem for
CD-ROMs does include a CRC checksum, but I can also get a perfect
bitwise copy of an audio cd using the same drive by ripping a CD to
..wav file. I can also do this at up to around 32x speed in my currect
drive.

So, if a $20 no-name CD-ROM can get a PERFECT digital copy of the audio
info stored on a CD at 32 times the speed that a $10k stereo CD player
has to read it, then what exactly is the $10k CD player doing for the
other $9,980?

Now, I do think some of the hi-fi CD-ROMs look pretty, and if I had a
near infinite supply of disposable income, I'd probably get one just
for the aesthetic value. Unfortunately, every hi-end device represents
many days of work for me, so I just run a cable from my computer to my
preamp for CD playing. Sounds exactly the same to me.

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