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June 11, 2005 2:04:10 PM

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Hi all, this is my situation: I'm a UK student, I have a pc with XP Home on
it, and I'm going to Germany for a year's study there. I want a laptop, and
they look mightily cheaper over there :)  *But* I don't think I could live
with a laptop that's exclusively in German. Ideally I want something where I
can switch between as I please.

First question: Is this easy to do? Having read around, it sounds like no,
given MUI seems to be only available to big companies =/

Second question: Would my current licence cover installing XP on a
yet-to-be-purchased laptop? (I'm thinking of the eventuality that I can't
have both languages and choose to install English over the top and make do
with that.)

I did read somewhere a brief comment that you can do something along the
lines of install one copy of Windows over another and thus be able to use
either language(!) I can't picture this in my mind, but does anyone know
about this?

Many thanks in advance for any help.

James.

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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 11, 2005 3:59:33 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

James wrote:
> Hi all, this is my situation: I'm a UK student, I have a pc with XP Home on
> it, and I'm going to Germany for a year's study there. I want a laptop, and
> they look mightily cheaper over there :)  *But* I don't think I could live
> with a laptop that's exclusively in German. Ideally I want something where I
> can switch between as I please.
>
> First question: Is this easy to do? Having read around, it sounds like no,
> given MUI seems to be only available to big companies =/
>

That's correct. The MUI is available only for Volume Licensed English
versions of WinXP Pro. For any other type of WinXP license, you cannot
upgrade or convert from one language version of the OS to another, so
you'd have to purchase and use the full version of WinXP (in whatever
language you want) to perform a clean installation.

Cannot Upgrade or Install a Different Language Version of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;282089


> Second question: Would my current licence cover installing XP on a
> yet-to-be-purchased laptop? (I'm thinking of the eventuality that I can't
> have both languages and choose to install English over the top and make do
> with that.)
>


Probably not. You need to have a separate WinXP license for each
computer on which you install it. If you've a retail license on your
present computer, you can remove it from the computer it's currently on,
and then install it on the laptop. (Check with the laptop manufacturer
before doing so, to ensure that this action won't void any warranty, and
that there are device drivers available for the English version of
WinXP.) If you've an OEM license, however, it's not transferable to
another computer under any circumstances.

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.

One can buy additional licenses, assuming one already has a retail
license. Naturally, Microsoft cannot sell additional OEM licenses. Be
aware, however, that you'll probably pay more this way than you would if
you were to buy a second copy of WinXP from a discount retailer;
Microsoft will only offer you a 15% discount off their MSRP.

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic...

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic....


> I did read somewhere a brief comment that you can do something along the
> lines of install one copy of Windows over another and thus be able to use
> either language(!) I can't picture this in my mind, but does anyone know
> about this?
>

Not quite. What you can do is purchase an additional English
version of WinXP and create a dual-boot scenario on the German laptop,
if you like.

For conflicting language versions of operating systems, and the
hiding of one's partition from another, I've found System Commander
from V-Communications very useful, in the past.


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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 11, 2005 4:14:00 PM

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Windows XP is written in specific language versions, therefore one
cannot "upgrade" from one language version to another. You'll need
to purchase a "Full Version" of Windows XP in the language version
you desire, reformat your drive and install it "clean".

Or if you have an available empty drive or partition, you can install
another "Full Version" of Windows XP in a different language version
and create a dual-boot configuration.

Cannot Upgrade or Install a Different Language Version of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;2820­89

Welcome to WorldLanguage.com!
http://www.worldlanguage.com/

A good third-party partitioning program is Partition Magic 8.
http://www.symantec.com/partitionmagic/

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/window...

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"James" wrote:

| Hi all, this is my situation: I'm a UK student, I have a pc with XP Home on
| it, and I'm going to Germany for a year's study there. I want a laptop, and
| they look mightily cheaper over there :)  *But* I don't think I could live
| with a laptop that's exclusively in German. Ideally I want something where I
| can switch between as I please.
|
| First question: Is this easy to do? Having read around, it sounds like no,
| given MUI seems to be only available to big companies =/
|
| Second question: Would my current licence cover installing XP on a
| yet-to-be-purchased laptop? (I'm thinking of the eventuality that I can't
| have both languages and choose to install English over the top and make do
| with that.)
|
| I did read somewhere a brief comment that you can do something along the
| lines of install one copy of Windows over another and thus be able to use
| either language(!) I can't picture this in my mind, but does anyone know
| about this?
|
| Many thanks in advance for any help.
|
| James.
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
June 12, 2005 8:07:52 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

It is also available OEM as well as VL.

You need to order a laptop with XP english AND the MUI pack (which will have to be ordered in by the shop for you and they probably won't know what you are talking about).

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@h0tmail.c0m> wrote in message news:#rfZR9qbFHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> James wrote:
> > Hi all, this is my situation: I'm a UK student, I have a pc with XP Home on
> > it, and I'm going to Germany for a year's study there. I want a laptop, and
> > they look mightily cheaper over there :)  *But* I don't think I could live
> > with a laptop that's exclusively in German. Ideally I want something where I
> > can switch between as I please.
> >
> > First question: Is this easy to do? Having read around, it sounds like no,
> > given MUI seems to be only available to big companies =/
> >
>
> That's correct. The MUI is available only for Volume Licensed English
> versions of WinXP Pro. For any other type of WinXP license, you cannot
> upgrade or convert from one language version of the OS to another, so
> you'd have to purchase and use the full version of WinXP (in whatever
> language you want) to perform a clean installation.
>
> Cannot Upgrade or Install a Different Language Version of Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;282089
>
>
> > Second question: Would my current licence cover installing XP on a
> > yet-to-be-purchased laptop? (I'm thinking of the eventuality that I can't
> > have both languages and choose to install English over the top and make do
> > with that.)
> >
>
>
> Probably not. You need to have a separate WinXP license for each
> computer on which you install it. If you've a retail license on your
> present computer, you can remove it from the computer it's currently on,
> and then install it on the laptop. (Check with the laptop manufacturer
> before doing so, to ensure that this action won't void any warranty, and
> that there are device drivers available for the English version of
> WinXP.) If you've an OEM license, however, it's not transferable to
> another computer under any circumstances.
>
> Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
> systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
> copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
> technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
> is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
> final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
> licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
> Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
> Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
> multiple installations using a single license.
>
> One can buy additional licenses, assuming one already has a retail
> license. Naturally, Microsoft cannot sell additional OEM licenses. Be
> aware, however, that you'll probably pay more this way than you would if
> you were to buy a second copy of WinXP from a discount retailer;
> Microsoft will only offer you a 15% discount off their MSRP.
>
> Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic...
>
> Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic....
>
>
> > I did read somewhere a brief comment that you can do something along the
> > lines of install one copy of Windows over another and thus be able to use
> > either language(!) I can't picture this in my mind, but does anyone know
> > about this?
> >
>
> Not quite. What you can do is purchase an additional English
> version of WinXP and create a dual-boot scenario on the German laptop,
> if you like.
>
> For conflicting language versions of operating systems, and the
> hiding of one's partition from another, I've found System Commander
> from V-Communications very useful, in the past.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
> both at once. - RAH
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