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There is a girl insisted on knowing my age. After I told her I'm very old,
and that's a man's secret, she asked another coworker. After that coworker
refused to tell her, she said she wouldn't tell me her age either. I think
she was flirting with me. Poor girl.

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:38:24 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>There is a girl insisted on knowing my age. After I told her I'm very old,
>and that's a man's secret, she asked another coworker. After that coworker
>refused to tell her, she said she wouldn't tell me her age either. I think
>she was flirting with me. Poor girl.

Do you live on Aragon Way?

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Eek! Polychromic wrote:
> Ashikaga wrote:
>
>>There is a girl insisted on knowing my age. After I told her I'm very old,
>>and that's a man's secret, she asked another coworker. After that coworker
>>refused to tell her, she said she wouldn't tell me her age either. I think
>>she was flirting with me. Poor girl.
>
> Do you live on Aragon Way?

Why?

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:18:43 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Eek! Polychromic wrote:
>> Ashikaga wrote:
>>
>>>There is a girl insisted on knowing my age. After I told her I'm very old,
>>>and that's a man's secret, she asked another coworker. After that coworker
>>>refused to tell her, she said she wouldn't tell me her age either. I think
>>>she was flirting with me. Poor girl.
>>
>> Do you live on Aragon Way?
>
>Why?

I was just wondering if it would take more than two clicks to find out
your age on the Superinterwebby (without referring to Equifax) and I see a
person with your name living on that street in San Jose.

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Words to the wise, Polychromic <macecil@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:38:24 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>There is a girl insisted on knowing my age. After I told her I'm very old,
>>and that's a man's secret, she asked another coworker. After that coworker
>>refused to tell her, she said she wouldn't tell me her age either. I think
>>she was flirting with me. Poor girl.
>
>Do you live on Aragon Way?

Thats a good one.

 

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Polychromic Dragon the Unparalleled Pugnacious Pusher of Virtue wrote:
>I was just wondering if it would take more than two clicks to find out
>your age on the Superinterwebby (without referring to Equifax) and I see a
>person with your name living on that street in San Jose.

Or you could just read his sig.
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:40:40 GMT, Saint George's Dragon
<firstname_lastname@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>Polychromic Dragon the Unparalleled Pugnacious Pusher of Virtue wrote:
>>I was just wondering if it would take more than two clicks to find out
>>your age on the Superinterwebby (without referring to Equifax) and I see a
>>person with your name living on that street in San Jose.
>
>Or you could just read his sig.

Hmmm, yes, if my newsreader didn't chop those off. *resorts to Google
Gropes..."

What do you know. Is that "a27" supposed to be his age? Perhaps he likes
a strange imitation steak sauce called A27! Oh well, it still doesn't
answer my question about the street address.

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Eek! Polychromic wrote:
> Ashikaga wrote:
>>Eek! Polychromic wrote:
<snip>
>>> Do you live on Aragon Way?
>>
>>Why?
>
> I was just wondering if it would take more than two clicks to find out
> your age on the Superinterwebby (without referring to Equifax) and I see a
> person with your name living on that street in San Jose.

I am now very confused. After I read St. Georgie's post, I am still
confused. I am 27 years old alright. But is there an imposter in my
neighborhood? I don't live on Aragon Way. Did you search it with my RL
name or by Ashikaga? And how do you find a person's address on the web???

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:25:08 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am now very confused. After I read St. Georgie's post, I am still
>confused. I am 27 years old alright. But is there an imposter in my
>neighborhood? I don't live on Aragon Way. Did you search it with my RL
>name or by Ashikaga? And how do you find a person's address on the web???

For that street I just used your first initial and last name and San Jose
on Google. Google can often surprise you with the amount of info it
reveals like that. It shows a phone number with the last 4 digits of
9212, for instance. However there appear to be a lot of people matching
your initial and last name in San Jose (or you've moved around many times)
so you're somewhat safe in your obscurity from those girls who would stalk
you.

Sometimes people will come to me trying to track down old classmates,
friends and relatives. Mostly it just takes a lot of persistence, or
expensive accounts with some of the credit bureaus. They have a lot of
wrong info though - that's why it's good to check your credit report
periodically.

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Eek! Polychromic wrote:
> Ashikaga wrote:
>
>>I am now very confused. After I read St. Georgie's post, I am still
>>confused. I am 27 years old alright. But is there an imposter in my
>>neighborhood? I don't live on Aragon Way. Did you search it with my RL
>>name or by Ashikaga? And how do you find a person's address on the web???
>
> For that street I just used your first initial and last name and San Jose
> on Google. Google can often surprise you with the amount of info it
> reveals like that. It shows a phone number with the last 4 digits of
> 9212, for instance. However there appear to be a lot of people matching
> your initial and last name in San Jose (or you've moved around many times)
> so you're somewhat safe in your obscurity from those girls who would stalk
> you.

You don't know how Chinese names work, then. Unlike European name system,
where first names are often shared and last names are unique, Chinese is
just the reverse. Most people have the same last name even though they may
or may not really relate to each other (perhaps hundreds of years ago they
are related). My last name is also more than a thousand years old, so it's
not really that unique.

So that means you just spent a lot of time trying to track me down (for
whatever the reason), but you really only found another person, who I hope
wouldn't be a victim of Rusty for the wrong reason....

> Sometimes people will come to me trying to track down old classmates,
> friends and relatives. Mostly it just takes a lot of persistence, or
> expensive accounts with some of the credit bureaus. They have a lot of
> wrong info though - that's why it's good to check your credit report
> periodically.

I still don't know how to check my credit report. I've request it once,
and I never receive it. Isn't there any easy way to do it?

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:14:59 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>You don't know how Chinese names work, then. Unlike European name system,
>where first names are often shared and last names are unique, Chinese is
>just the reverse. Most people have the same last name even though they may
>or may not really relate to each other (perhaps hundreds of years ago they
>are related). My last name is also more than a thousand years old, so it's
>not really that unique.

Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?

>So that means you just spent a lot of time trying to track me down (for
>whatever the reason), but you really only found another person, who I hope
>wouldn't be a victim of Rusty for the wrong reason....

(Glamcrist, actually) but it took no time at all. Anyhow, regardless of
how you do names in another country, this is the US so your name should be
listed according to the norm here.

>I still don't know how to check my credit report. I've request it once,
>and I never receive it. Isn't there any easy way to do it?

Equifax hosts a site for getting one free here:
http://www.annualcreditreport.com/

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"Polychromic" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:14:59 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>You don't know how Chinese names work, then. Unlike European name system,
>>where first names are often shared and last names are unique, Chinese is
>>just the reverse. Most people have the same last name even though they
>>may
>>or may not really relate to each other (perhaps hundreds of years ago they
>>are related). My last name is also more than a thousand years old, so
>>it's
>>not really that unique.
>
> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?

I'm a little confused too (nothing new there), but isn't he saying that, for
instance, "westerners" often say Chow Yun-Fat, when they really should be
saying Yun-Fat Chow?

It's like cheese doodles, only with cream and book-oil. Common sense.

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Eek! Polychromic wrote:
> Ashikaga wrote:
>
>>You don't know how Chinese names work, then. Unlike European name system,
>>where first names are often shared and last names are unique, Chinese is
>>just the reverse. Most people have the same last name even though they may
>>or may not really relate to each other (perhaps hundreds of years ago they
>>are related). My last name is also more than a thousand years old, so it's
>>not really that unique.
>
> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?

No.

>>So that means you just spent a lot of time trying to track me down (for
>>whatever the reason), but you really only found another person, who I hope
>>wouldn't be a victim of Rusty for the wrong reason....
>
> (Glamcrist, actually) but it took no time at all. Anyhow, regardless of
> how you do names in another country, this is the US so your name should be
> listed according to the norm here.

Yeah, but first name initial is by no mean a very specific way to identify
a person. Especially when you consider who knows how many tens of
thousands of people are called by my last name in this country.

>>I still don't know how to check my credit report. I've request it once,
>>and I never receive it. Isn't there any easy way to do it?
>
> Equifax hosts a site for getting one free here:
> http://www.annualcreditreport.com/

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:51:48 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
>> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?
>
>No.

That's what I thought. So searching for the family name (the last name)
and the first initial is still the most appropriate way to do it as long
as the database you're searching is storing them that way.

>Yeah, but first name initial is by no mean a very specific way to identify
>a person. Especially when you consider who knows how many tens of
>thousands of people are called by my last name in this country.

Obviously, but you must work within the limitations of the system you're
using. You can't suddenly try to look for someone in a database of first
initials and last names by their eye color.

>> Equifax hosts a site for getting one free here:
>> http://www.annualcreditreport.com/
>
>Thanks!

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Eek! Lord Vashnu Dragon wrote:
> "Polychromic" wrote...
>> Ashikaga wrote:
>>
>>>You don't know how Chinese names work, then. Unlike European name system,
>>>where first names are often shared and last names are unique, Chinese is
>>>just the reverse. Most people have the same last name even though they
>>>may
>>>or may not really relate to each other (perhaps hundreds of years ago they
>>>are related). My last name is also more than a thousand years old, so
>>>it's
>>>not really that unique.
>>
>> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
>> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?
>
> I'm a little confused too (nothing new there), but isn't he saying that, for
> instance, "westerners" often say Chow Yun-Fat, when they really should be
> saying Yun-Fat Chow?
>
> It's like cheese doodles, only with cream and book-oil. Common sense.

What I meant was, people with European descents have common christian names
like Peter or David, or Michael, etc.. In such name system, family name
becomes the distinguisher of one person from another. I mean, there are
tons of Michaels in this country, but you are a Michael from Cecil family.

Chinese system is different. There are tons of Mr. Lin or Mr. Chow there.
First names become the distinguishers of such system. I hope that's clear
enough.

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:56:24 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
>>> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?

1.

>What I meant was, people with European descents have common christian names
>like Peter or David, or Michael, etc.. In such name system, family name
>becomes the distinguisher of one person from another. I mean, there are
>tons of Michaels in this country, but you are a Michael from Cecil family.
>
>Chinese system is different. There are tons of Mr. Lin or Mr. Chow there.
>First names become the distinguishers of such system. I hope that's clear
>enough.

Nope. See question 1.

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"Ashikaga" <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Eek! Lord Vashnu Dragon wrote:
>> "Polychromic" wrote...
>>> Ashikaga wrote:
>>>
>>>>You don't know how Chinese names work, then. Unlike European name
>>>>system,
>>>>where first names are often shared and last names are unique, Chinese is
>>>>just the reverse. Most people have the same last name even though they
>>>>may
>>>>or may not really relate to each other (perhaps hundreds of years ago
>>>>they
>>>>are related). My last name is also more than a thousand years old, so
>>>>it's
>>>>not really that unique.
>>>
>>> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
>>> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?
>>
>> I'm a little confused too (nothing new there), but isn't he saying that,
>> for
>> instance, "westerners" often say Chow Yun-Fat, when they really should be
>> saying Yun-Fat Chow?
>>
>> It's like cheese doodles, only with cream and book-oil. Common sense.
>
> What I meant was, people with European descents have common christian
> names
> like Peter or David, or Michael, etc.. In such name system, family name
> becomes the distinguisher of one person from another. I mean, there are
> tons of Michaels in this country, but you are a Michael from Cecil family.
>
> Chinese system is different. There are tons of Mr. Lin or Mr. Chow there.
> First names become the distinguishers of such system. I hope that's clear
> enough.

Nah, that didnt really help me. If there are 2000 Mr Brown, their first
names become the distinguisher. How is that different?

I thought that the chinese style of writing names, was to put the surname
first - as in Brown Steve.
So when people say Chow Yun-Fat, they think that Yun-Fat is his surname...
which it really isn't, or?

But for the question of distinguishing the person with their first name /
last name, I still don't see the diff. Then again, I'm LVD.

LVD

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"Polychromic" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:51:48 GMT, Ashikaga <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Are you trying to say that you don't share your last name with others in
>>> your family and that your first (and middle name) aren't unique to you?
>>
>>No.
>
> That's what I thought. So searching for the family name (the last name)
> and the first initial is still the most appropriate way to do it as long
> as the database you're searching is storing them that way.
>
>>Yeah, but first name initial is by no mean a very specific way to identify
>>a person. Especially when you consider who knows how many tens of
>>thousands of people are called by my last name in this country.
>
> Obviously, but you must work within the limitations of the system you're
> using. You can't suddenly try to look for someone in a database of first
> initials and last names by their eye color.

I have blue eyes. Ok, thanks. Bye!!

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Eek! Lord Vashnu Dragon wrote:
> "Ashikaga" wrote...
<snip>
>> What I meant was, people with European descents have common christian
>> names
>> like Peter or David, or Michael, etc.. In such name system, family name
>> becomes the distinguisher of one person from another. I mean, there are
>> tons of Michaels in this country, but you are a Michael from Cecil family.
>>
>> Chinese system is different. There are tons of Mr. Lin or Mr. Chow there.
>> First names become the distinguishers of such system. I hope that's clear
>> enough.
>
> Nah, that didnt really help me. If there are 2000 Mr Brown, their first
> names become the distinguisher. How is that different?

Yeah, well, that's because you are a Swedish. Who knows how many
Petersons are there.

> I thought that the chinese style of writing names, was to put the surname
> first - as in Brown Steve.
> So when people say Chow Yun-Fat, they think that Yun-Fat is his surname...
> which it really isn't, or?

That's not my point.

> But for the question of distinguishing the person with their first name /
> last name, I still don't see the diff. Then again, I'm LVD.

Well, you are Scandinavian afterall, so you guys have yet a very different
surname system... (though it has complied to the common European style of
surname now).

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"Ashikaga" <citizenashi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Eek! Lord Vashnu Dragon wrote:
>> "Ashikaga" wrote...
> <snip>
>>> What I meant was, people with European descents have common christian
>>> names
>>> like Peter or David, or Michael, etc.. In such name system, family name
>>> becomes the distinguisher of one person from another. I mean, there are
>>> tons of Michaels in this country, but you are a Michael from Cecil
>>> family.
>>>
>>> Chinese system is different. There are tons of Mr. Lin or Mr. Chow
>>> there.
>>> First names become the distinguishers of such system. I hope that's
>>> clear
>>> enough.
>>
>> Nah, that didnt really help me. If there are 2000 Mr Brown, their first
>> names become the distinguisher. How is that different?
>
> Yeah, well, that's because you are a Swedish. Who knows how many
> Petersons are there.
>
>> I thought that the chinese style of writing names, was to put the surname
>> first - as in Brown Steve.
>> So when people say Chow Yun-Fat, they think that Yun-Fat is his
>> surname...
>> which it really isn't, or?
>
> That's not my point.
>
>> But for the question of distinguishing the person with their first name /
>> last name, I still don't see the diff. Then again, I'm LVD.
>
> Well, you are Scandinavian afterall, so you guys have yet a very different
> surname system... (though it has complied to the common European style of
> surname now).

I guess I'm still a little lost. If you don't have a name that is unique,
you will need both your first name, your last name, and probably even more
info than that to distinguish yourself among others...

 

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Eek! Lord Vashnu Dragon wrote:
> "Ashikaga" wrote...
>> Eek! Lord Vashnu Dragon wrote:
<snip>
>> Well, you are Scandinavian afterall, so you guys have yet a very different
>> surname system... (though it has complied to the common European style of
>> surname now).
>
> I guess I'm still a little lost. If you don't have a name that is unique,
> you will need both your first name, your last name, and probably even more
> info than that to distinguish yourself among others...

Like social security number in the U.S.? Actually back in Imperial China,
people had three names. Actually people nowadays use middle name initial
as disinguishing info too.

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Quoth Polychromic <macecil@comcast.net>:
....
> Anyhow, regardless of how you do names in another country, this
> is the US so your name should be listed according to the norm here.

FWIW, people of Chinese descent in Britain often have three forenames
plus a surname. The first two are Chinese names, and the third is a
British-style name by which they normally go.

As for standard naming conventions, it's very, very unusual here for
people to use the US form of initial, followed by full middle name,
followed by surname. Almost invariably, it's the middle name that's
abbreviated, when it's mentioned at all.

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On 03 Aug 2005 00:13:09 GMT, Samurai <nospam@dev.nul> wrote:

>As for standard naming conventions, it's very, very unusual here for
>people to use the US form of initial, followed by full middle name,
>followed by surname. Almost invariably, it's the middle name that's
>abbreviated, when it's mentioned at all.

What gave you the idea that is the US form? Except for R. David Kelly I
can't think of another example off hand, and he's in the Hollywood biz so
hardly any rules apply there.

The norm here is given name, initial, family name on most documents where
they request a middle initial at all.

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Eek! Polychromic wrote:
> Samurai wrote:
>
>>As for standard naming conventions, it's very, very unusual here for
>>people to use the US form of initial, followed by full middle name,
>>followed by surname. Almost invariably, it's the middle name that's
>>abbreviated, when it's mentioned at all.
>
> What gave you the idea that is the US form? Except for R. David Kelly I
> can't think of another example off hand, and he's in the Hollywood biz so
> hardly any rules apply there.
>
> The norm here is given name, initial, family name on most documents where
> they request a middle initial at all.

Or F. Scott Fitzgerald, but yes that's not the norm here.

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Quoth Polychromic <macecil@comcast.net>:
> On 03 Aug 2005 00:13:09 GMT, Samurai <nospam@dev.nul> wrote:
....
>> Almost invariably, it's the middle name that's abbreviated, when
>> it's mentioned at all.
>
> What gave you the idea that is the US form?

Anecdotal evidence: I've seen it used a number of times by people in the US and
only ever once by someone in Britain.

> Except for R. David Kelly I can't think of another example off
> hand, and he's in the Hollywood biz so hardly any rules apply
> there.

Heh. True enough.

> The norm here is given name, initial, family name on most
> documents where they request a middle initial at all.

I'm talking more about how people sign themselves, rather than how official
documents want them to write their names. British people rarely bother with their
middle names. From what I've seen (which is of course rather a lot less than
anyone who actually lives in the States), it's far more common for people to refer
to their own middle names on your side of the Pond.

If that genuinely isn't the case, I'm happy to sit corrected.

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